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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

Curious Creatures Double Elvis

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    • 4.9 • 151 Ratings

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

    Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen Fairies!

    Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen Fairies!

    Intense but Brief!   
    Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser 
    Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins 
    Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key 
    Surely not - Australian rules football of course!

    Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs!
    3 gigs a night and it all paid off
    Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way
    The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book
    It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo!

    Championing The Underdog!
    From Street fights to The Stage – Loyalty was demanded
    Peter was The Rock on which The Dead could Dance safely
    More Baptisms of Fire and Keeping the Money Tight
    Born to Drum or Drumming to be Born?

    The Beat Must Go On!
    Creating the Dance - We are The Disco Beat
    Clay Pots with Skin Heads – Got a Young Peter Hooked
    Lisa’s Percussion made Peter Heavier on The Drums
    4AD had a Dead Drum Room – Wolfgang Press with Tom Jones.

    It’s Not Unusual to be Loved!
    Hairy Chested Medallion Man – Made us Determined to Change the World
    Conversations Never Heard – find Their Voice in the Present
    The Fallacy of Memory – Reveals the Duality of Events
    We are all of us Characters in Everyone’s stories!
    Back On The Bus Y’All – We’re Gearing up for The Road!

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    Respect: Wolfgang Preiss (27 February 1910 – 27 November 2002)
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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
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    • 37 min
    Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!

    Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!

    Carpets and Bass Drums!   
    Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives
    The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives
    We all took numbers, and we all took a Name 
    They were all unreadable when the next day Came 

    The Journey is The Thing!
    Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way
    Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away
    The Highs and Lows that made it Work
    Difficult relationships created the Quirk! 

    The Bells are Ringing for me and My Pal!
    A Constant Support from the Chaos Outside
    The Rarity of Security was Peter’s Reality
    Thirty years of always being taken on a Ride 
    Had Lol and Budgie seeking a safe place to hide 

    Booking The Cooks! 
    What the world don’t know, won’t hurt ‘em
    They were TOO Good Looking for OUR own Good
    Cheek bones to Die for, and Handsome on the inside
    Dead Can Dance - Cooler than Frankenstein’s Bride!

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    Respect: Elsa Sullivan Lanchester (28 October 1902 – 26 December 1986)
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    • 36 min
    Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!

    Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!

    Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing!   
    Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We?
    When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality?
    Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story!
    Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE?

    How Do We keep Sane?
    Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet!
    We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee?
    Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home! 
    Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Faint Hearted!

    How Do We keep Healthy?
    The things you Find on Tour – and the Things you Don’t
    It’s 3rd Time Lucky to Discover All the Good Stuff
    Everyone’s Your Friend on Tour – Even the Ones who Aren’t
    Lydia Lunch & Marcy B Drive Lol down Sunset for Vitamin C

    Looking for Answers! 
    The bar behind the Stage - Was it at The Fenix?
    Fisherman’s Wharf or Pikes Place Market?
    Home of The Slugs and The Edgewater Inn?
    San Francisco 1995 and Courtney Blows up Lolapolooza!

    Information Overload - Upchuck!
    Wow did we play it So Fast? Why do we play it So Slow!
    Can we Find an Easier way to Do that?
    Orange sparkle Gretsch – Brass shells and 26” bass drums?
    We come full circle – we’re back to Drums – All Drummers are Friends!!
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    Respect: D. H. Peligro - (July 9, 1959 – October 28, 2022)
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
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    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
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    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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    • 39 min
    Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In

    Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In

    Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up!   
    Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill,
    But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill?
    It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two!
    Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue!

    Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic!
    Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake
    All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake
    A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound
    Genesis and Focus on the Oval cricket ground

    Bow Bells are Ringing!
    Cheech of Chong made Lol an Angelino
    In the Biggest library in the Town of Televisino
    An unlikely meeting of Minds at the LA Forum
    Don’t tell Duff McKagan or even Matt Sorum

    Books Books Books! 
    When your whole life drifts like a Spirit in the Sky
    There’s no time left as Tears go By
    The second one’s needed, so no need to sell ‘em
    It’s a personal thing - it’s the way I tell ‘em

    Memory is Not an Exact Science!
    Don’t you Love me Baby?
    But you condensed my life into half a chapter!
    It probably didn’t fit the greater arc of the story
    It’s not what happens - it’s how you remember it.
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    Respect: Kevin ‘Geordie’ Walker (18 December 1958 – 26 November 2023)
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    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
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    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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    • 38 min
    Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire

    Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire

    Love it to Death! 
    Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too
    Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo?
    All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana
    Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna?

    Hey, What do You Do?
    What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all?
    When counting a song in, could make a heart stall
    It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword
    It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board.

    How do You Stay Optimistic?
    Get yourself some Private Ai – become a Super-brain
    They’re all riding ticketless on a Berlin subway train
    The only way is Up – away from the Big Corps
    One potato, two potato, three potato, four

    Improvising with Fusion! 
    Recycling everything is the New Future Dream
    100-year lightbulbs become like Peaches and Cream
    All we Need is Love and Reggie in the Race 
    We’re plotting our escape, to the much bigger place

    We All Love Collaboration!
    Music is the Victim – where does that leave us?
    Solo improvisation – Get the Room to lead us
    Music is the Funhouse of Mirrors and Smoke
    You feel it coz’ it’s the real thing – not a bottle of Coke!

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    Respect: Glen Edward Buxton (November 10, 1947 – October 19, 1997)
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
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    Budgie: 
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    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.



     



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    • 31 min
    Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers

    Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers

    Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany!   
    It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette
    The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette
    You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here
    The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer!

    Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens!
    Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places
    Watch out for the Queens with that look on their faces 
    Rubber and Fetish was the dress code for sure
    The Batcave was entered through a coffin shaped door

    Number One in Heaven!
    Getting stabbed after 8 o’clock Sharp
    Underneath the Arches, where the shadows are Dark
    The footsteps behind you, one for fear, one for dread
    You had to have Eyes in the back of your head

    Montana Red Dog! 
    Soaking up the details in the cafes and bars
    Reggie heard all the languages beneath the stars
    Like a Teenager dreaming of the right words to use
    Montana was waiting for the sounds of the muse

    On The Road Again!
    Meeting all the Oddballs on the Road to Nowhere 
    Real time Evaporation in the Hotel Bar chair
    World Domination was a long way from Home
    We’re Back On the bus with Wet Bottom syndrome.
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    Respect: Wayne Stanley Kramer (April 30, 1948 – February 2, 2024) 
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.



     




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    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
151 Ratings

151 Ratings

Seeker2077 ,

Off Label Benefits

Is it bad that this turned out to be a great trauma and addiction recovery podcast for me? The hosts’ recollections and discussions with fellow artists are sometimes very funny, sometimes unexpectedly moving, and usually relatable and insightful about development, relationships and creativity. (I’m only up to Aug 2022, but the interviews with Terri Nunn and Kevin Haskins are standout in this aspect so far.) Grateful to Lol and Budgie for the vulnerability and humor they brought to this project, and I hope to hear more from them, wherever that goes.

chuckthebabyoutthewindow ,

have kristin hersh on

would be good

Cure and Siouxsie Fan ,

More guests from your time

Such a wonderful "fly on the wall" perspective of two of my favorite bands. I just wish they had more guests from around their time not contemporary artists (Justin excluded). No one who loves Budgie and Lol cares about LCD sound system, in fact they generally strongly dislike, if not hate, them.

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