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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

Curious Creatures Double Elvis

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    • 4.9 • 142 Ratings

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

    Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’

    Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’

    The Day The World Turned Day-Glo 
    Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene
    Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love
    Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth
    We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove

    GermFree Adolescents! 
    Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali
    His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place
    Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat 
    A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face

    I Am a Cliché!
    Valuable Time Made a Difference 
    Personal Real and True 
    Honest and Believable Felt Real to Lol
    Honesty Helped Celeste find Her Way 
     
    Age!
    Poly, Lol and Budgie – 1950’s Varieties
    Hold valuable insight of Era and Times 
    Of Austere 70’s and all Notorieties
    Goths on The Tube and Tory Crimes 

    Identity!
    Courting Controversy and Cancel Culture
    An Early Adopter of Media and Tech 
    Poly’s X-Ray Spex gave the Pop world a Rupture
    X-Ray Spex caused a Pain in the Neck

    I Am a Poseur!
    The DIY Spirit of Punk for Celeste 
    Independent Rebellious Thinking 
    To a Conformist Era nothing more than a Pest
    Punk Self Expression was Sinking 

    Oh Bondage Up Yours!
    British Journalism made Personal Attacks
    Made Her Life a Difficult Role
    It wasn’t Cool to be Polite to the Hacks 
    Poly was a Sensitive Soul 

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    Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011) 
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.

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    • 36 min
    Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says F**k It

    Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says F**k It

    Who’s That Girl?
    Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition
    When The World Shutdown 
    The Questioning Began
    Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening

    On-Screen-Only Relationships!
    Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket
    Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill!
    Be Whatever You Want to Be!
    What’s Through Your Keyhole?
     
    Balancing Real Relationships! 
    Space, Space, Space, and More Space!
    Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains
    How Often do You Change your Socks?
    We Are Family – a Mental Family!

    Re-Inventing the Wheel!
    Exciting to Rethink the Live Experience
    Arpeggios and Jingle Jangle
    The Big Scream is The Point 
    Bethany Thinks on her Toes!

    What’s On Your Mind?
    Talking to The Fearful Voice
    Letting Go of The Extremes
    Nothing to be Done and Everything will be Done
    It’s All so Simple – Just Let Go!
    And The Sound of Wedding Bells!!

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    Respect: Donald Buchla (April 17, 1937 – September 14, 2016)
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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    • 34 min
    Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’

    Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’

    How Much do you Do in Your car?
    Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA!
    Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him
    Budgie thinks LA must love him too
    LA Keeps Calling him Back!

    Rent-A-Wreck!
    Budgie rents his first car in LA!
    Pick ‘n Mix of Environments
    Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert 
    Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk!
     
    Bob The Dude Around Town! 
    Catching up with The Thing!
    Gathering The Best Coast Buzz
    Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA
    Among The Ghosts of Creative Legacies

    Becoming The Band until we Disappear!
    Bethany and All the External Noise
    Reclaiming Bethany – Bringing back, ‘Shame on You!’
    Scary to Put Yourself Out There!
    99% is positive - 1% negative is a killer!

    The Vulnerable Desires! 
    Bethany lets her old Character Go
    Bethany Creates a Cocoon to Create
    Anticipation and Expectation? 
    Bethany is Doing it For Herself!

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    Respect: Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971)
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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    • 39 min
    Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty

    Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty

    Can AI make a Hit Record?
    Drummers talk about anything but Drumming
    Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers
    All we got to do is Act Naturally
    Things the Industry didn’t Understand
    Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation? 

    More Means More!
    We love and Embrace Computers
    We love and Embrace Individuality
    We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration 
    Now Cue the Music!
     
    Good Food and A Donut! 
    Jacknife describes his Daily Process 
    Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation
    What’s Going On with Shoes and Feet?!
    Is my One the same as Your One?

    Robert Dresses Below the Waist
    Do we ever look at the Back of our Head?
    Who do you trust to Dress You?
    Jacknife Never looks at Himself
    We must Think in 3D!

    We Got to Move! 
    Isaac Brock sings at 7mph
    Jacknife Runs along in Time 
    Lol spins for more than 30 minutes
    Budgie cycles the whole of Berlin (almost!)
    All because we Listen to Los Angeles!!

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    Respect: William MacArthur ‘Billy’ Mackenzie (27 March 1957 – 22 January 1997) 
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    Curious Creatures:
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    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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    • 25 min
    Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All

    Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All

    Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes 
    Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything
    Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums
    (We’re off to a Good Start!)
    Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want!

    The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal!
    Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand 
    The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist
    On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula 
    Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time!
     
    Vocalists are Tricky! 
    Musicians as Tightrope walkers – Without Safety nets 
    Risks can be Creative but not for Careers!
    Good bands fight to Discover – Take something small and Enlarge!
    Robert Smith focussed everyone by saying, ‘this will be the Last Time.’

    Fragility / Self-hatred / Being weird 
    Pornography almost killed The Cure but reanimated them.
    Club Smith or Club Tolhurst, had Simon Gallup singing Kate Bush

    Doing It Like the First Time! 
    Our New album - Fresh and Exciting!
    Guest vocalists working Outside comfort Zones
    Bobby Gillespie and James Murphy at Home - Arrow in Topanga 
    New bands are mostly missing the drummer’s personality
    (We’re off to a Good End!)

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    Respect: Jane Birkin (December 1946 – July 2023)
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    CONNECT WITH US:
    Curious Creatures:
    Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
    Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
    Twitter: @curecreatures
    Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial

    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee

    Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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    • 34 min
    Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius

    Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius

    Jacknife never remembers the big moments. 
    Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out!
    Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd!

    Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner 
    Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME!
    Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone 
    Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour 
    Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru.

    Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch
    Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert 
    Everyone close to Robert, became Robert!
    Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.????

    Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’
    Bon mots take hold on the road 
    An unusual dynamic - being together all the time 
    Understanding people and personalities 
    Us against the world – All for One and One for All!

    Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend
    As you get older, you better understand your ego 
    Getting over the caricatures - writing the story 
    making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over 
    Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate! 
    The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon.
     
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    Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023)
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    CONNECT WITH US:
    Curious Creatures:
    Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
    Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
    Twitter: @curecreatures
    Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial

    Lol Tolhurst: 
    Website: https://loltolhurst.com
    Facebook: @officialloltolhurst 
    Twitter: @LolTolhurst 
    Instagram: @lol.tolhurst 

    Budgie: 
    Facebook: @budgieofficial 
    Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
    Instagram: @budgie646

    Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
    Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee 
    Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
    Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
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    • 35 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
142 Ratings

142 Ratings

Seeker2077 ,

Off Label Benefits

Is it bad that this turned out to be a great trauma and addiction recovery podcast for me? The hosts’ recollections and discussions with fellow artists are sometimes very funny, sometimes unexpectedly moving, and usually relatable and insightful about development, relationships and creativity. (I’m only up to Aug 2022, but the interviews with Terri Nunn and Kevin Haskins are standout in this aspect so far.) Grateful to Lol and Budgie for the vulnerability and humor they brought to this project, and I hope to hear more from them, wherever that goes.

chuckthebabyoutthewindow ,

have kristin hersh on

would be good

Cure and Siouxsie Fan ,

More guests from your time

Such a wonderful "fly on the wall" perspective of two of my favorite bands. I just wish they had more guests from around their time not contemporary artists (Justin excluded). No one who loves Budgie and Lol cares about LCD sound system, in fact they generally strongly dislike, if not hate, them.

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