
90 episodes

Curious Creatures Double Elvis
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4.9 • 142 Ratings
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Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’
The Day The World Turned Day-Glo
Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene
Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love
Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth
We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove
GermFree Adolescents!
Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali
His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place
Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat
A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face
I Am a Cliché!
Valuable Time Made a Difference
Personal Real and True
Honest and Believable Felt Real to Lol
Honesty Helped Celeste find Her Way
Age!
Poly, Lol and Budgie – 1950’s Varieties
Hold valuable insight of Era and Times
Of Austere 70’s and all Notorieties
Goths on The Tube and Tory Crimes
Identity!
Courting Controversy and Cancel Culture
An Early Adopter of Media and Tech
Poly’s X-Ray Spex gave the Pop world a Rupture
X-Ray Spex caused a Pain in the Neck
I Am a Poseur!
The DIY Spirit of Punk for Celeste
Independent Rebellious Thinking
To a Conformist Era nothing more than a Pest
Punk Self Expression was Sinking
Oh Bondage Up Yours!
British Journalism made Personal Attacks
Made Her Life a Difficult Role
It wasn’t Cool to be Polite to the Hacks
Poly was a Sensitive Soul
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Respect: Poly Styrene (Marianne Joan Elliott-Said: 3 July 1957 – 25 April 2011)
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Curious Creatures:
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Twitter: @curecreatures
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Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
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Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
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Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
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Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says F**k It
Who’s That Girl?
Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition
When The World Shutdown
The Questioning Began
Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening
On-Screen-Only Relationships!
Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket
Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill!
Be Whatever You Want to Be!
What’s Through Your Keyhole?
Balancing Real Relationships!
Space, Space, Space, and More Space!
Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains
How Often do You Change your Socks?
We Are Family – a Mental Family!
Re-Inventing the Wheel!
Exciting to Rethink the Live Experience
Arpeggios and Jingle Jangle
The Big Scream is The Point
Bethany Thinks on her Toes!
What’s On Your Mind?
Talking to The Fearful Voice
Letting Go of The Extremes
Nothing to be Done and Everything will be Done
It’s All so Simple – Just Let Go!
And The Sound of Wedding Bells!!
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Respect: Donald Buchla (April 17, 1937 – September 14, 2016)
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CONNECT WITH US:
Curious Creatures:
Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Twitter: @curecreatures
Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’
How Much do you Do in Your car?
Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA!
Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him
Budgie thinks LA must love him too
LA Keeps Calling him Back!
Rent-A-Wreck!
Budgie rents his first car in LA!
Pick ‘n Mix of Environments
Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert
Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk!
Bob The Dude Around Town!
Catching up with The Thing!
Gathering The Best Coast Buzz
Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA
Among The Ghosts of Creative Legacies
Becoming The Band until we Disappear!
Bethany and All the External Noise
Reclaiming Bethany – Bringing back, ‘Shame on You!’
Scary to Put Yourself Out There!
99% is positive - 1% negative is a killer!
The Vulnerable Desires!
Bethany lets her old Character Go
Bethany Creates a Cocoon to Create
Anticipation and Expectation?
Bethany is Doing it For Herself!
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Respect: Jim Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971)
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CONNECT WITH US:
Curious Creatures:
Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Twitter: @curecreatures
Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty
Can AI make a Hit Record?
Drummers talk about anything but Drumming
Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers
All we got to do is Act Naturally
Things the Industry didn’t Understand
Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation?
More Means More!
We love and Embrace Computers
We love and Embrace Individuality
We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration
Now Cue the Music!
Good Food and A Donut!
Jacknife describes his Daily Process
Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation
What’s Going On with Shoes and Feet?!
Is my One the same as Your One?
Robert Dresses Below the Waist
Do we ever look at the Back of our Head?
Who do you trust to Dress You?
Jacknife Never looks at Himself
We must Think in 3D!
We Got to Move!
Isaac Brock sings at 7mph
Jacknife Runs along in Time
Lol spins for more than 30 minutes
Budgie cycles the whole of Berlin (almost!)
All because we Listen to Los Angeles!!
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Respect: William MacArthur ‘Billy’ Mackenzie (27 March 1957 – 22 January 1997)
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CONNECT WITH US:
Curious Creatures:
Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Twitter: @curecreatures
Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee:
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All
Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes
Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything
Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums
(We’re off to a Good Start!)
Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want!
The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal!
Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand
The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist
On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula
Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time!
Vocalists are Tricky!
Musicians as Tightrope walkers – Without Safety nets
Risks can be Creative but not for Careers!
Good bands fight to Discover – Take something small and Enlarge!
Robert Smith focussed everyone by saying, ‘this will be the Last Time.’
Fragility / Self-hatred / Being weird
Pornography almost killed The Cure but reanimated them.
Club Smith or Club Tolhurst, had Simon Gallup singing Kate Bush
Doing It Like the First Time!
Our New album - Fresh and Exciting!
Guest vocalists working Outside comfort Zones
Bobby Gillespie and James Murphy at Home - Arrow in Topanga
New bands are mostly missing the drummer’s personality
(We’re off to a Good End!)
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Respect: Jane Birkin (December 1946 – July 2023)
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CONNECT WITH US:
Curious Creatures:
Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Twitter: @curecreatures
Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.
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Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius
Jacknife never remembers the big moments.
Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out!
Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd!
Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner
Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME!
Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone
Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour
Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru.
Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch
Robert impersonated Lol and Lol did a great Robert
Everyone close to Robert, became Robert!
Q. Affectation or affection for Siouxsie in the Banshees? A.????
Young Bob reinvented Regal zone on ‘So It Goes’
Bon mots take hold on the road
An unusual dynamic - being together all the time
Understanding people and personalities
Us against the world – All for One and One for All!
Parts of the world Lol liked and the Jilted teenage girlfriend
As you get older, you better understand your ego
Getting over the caricatures - writing the story
making peace with life - preventing strange characters taking over
Q. The Real Stroke of Genius? – A. Begin Today with a Clean Slate!
The Job of the Musician is to Discover – Anon.
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Respect: Sinéad O’Connor (December 1966 – July 2023)
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CONNECT WITH US:
Curious Creatures:
Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com
Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Twitter: @curecreatures
Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial
Lol Tolhurst:
Website: https://loltolhurst.com
Facebook: @officialloltolhurst
Twitter: @LolTolhurst
Instagram: @lol.tolhurst
Budgie:
Facebook: @budgieofficial
Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo
Instagram: @budgie646
Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee
Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee
Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF
Instagram: @lolxbudgiexjacknifelee
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Customer Reviews
Off Label Benefits
Is it bad that this turned out to be a great trauma and addiction recovery podcast for me? The hosts’ recollections and discussions with fellow artists are sometimes very funny, sometimes unexpectedly moving, and usually relatable and insightful about development, relationships and creativity. (I’m only up to Aug 2022, but the interviews with Terri Nunn and Kevin Haskins are standout in this aspect so far.) Grateful to Lol and Budgie for the vulnerability and humor they brought to this project, and I hope to hear more from them, wherever that goes.
have kristin hersh on
would be good
More guests from your time
Such a wonderful "fly on the wall" perspective of two of my favorite bands. I just wish they had more guests from around their time not contemporary artists (Justin excluded). No one who loves Budgie and Lol cares about LCD sound system, in fact they generally strongly dislike, if not hate, them.