59 episodes

Marketing and business strategy podcast for executives and marketing leaders who want to improve outcomes from marketing.
Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) & Margaret Kelsey (InVision, OpenView) use their combined 20+ years of experience to increase the business impact of marketing by creating shared understanding of its purpose and outcomes among marketing leaders, founders/CEOs & others in the C-suite.
Join us for in-depth conversations about B2B marketing behind the scenes:How to run effective marketing teamsHiring best-in-class marketing teamsMarketing strategy: Product-led Growth (PLG), Community marketing, Influencer marketing, micro influencersTrends in B2B marketing: AI, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, social platforms, email, and moreCreated in partnership with Share Your Genius
An award-winning B2B podcast production company: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

Don't Say Content Devin Bramhall & Margaret Kelsey

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    • 5.0 • 33 Ratings

Marketing and business strategy podcast for executives and marketing leaders who want to improve outcomes from marketing.
Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) & Margaret Kelsey (InVision, OpenView) use their combined 20+ years of experience to increase the business impact of marketing by creating shared understanding of its purpose and outcomes among marketing leaders, founders/CEOs & others in the C-suite.
Join us for in-depth conversations about B2B marketing behind the scenes:How to run effective marketing teamsHiring best-in-class marketing teamsMarketing strategy: Product-led Growth (PLG), Community marketing, Influencer marketing, micro influencersTrends in B2B marketing: AI, TikTok, YouTube, LinkedIn, social platforms, email, and moreCreated in partnership with Share Your Genius
An award-winning B2B podcast production company: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    Bonus: Devin Bramhall on 2 Pizza Marketing

    Bonus: Devin Bramhall on 2 Pizza Marketing

    In this episode, Devin Bramhall joins Ashley McGovern and Melissa Moody on their show, 2 Pizza Marketing.
    Like what you hear? Check out their show here: https://www.2pizzamarketing.com/
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    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • 39 min
    Replay: What to Do When You Feel Like a Failed Marketer

    Replay: What to Do When You Feel Like a Failed Marketer

    In this replay episode, we're revisiting lessons we've learned around failure.
    Did you just get fired? Spend a bunch of money on a marketing project or campaign that didn’t work? 

    It can feel like marketing failures are happening today at a higher rate than ever before. Markets are changing; buyer’s processes, decision-making, and budgets are in flux; and companies are switching up their marketing organizations and leadership. 

    Devin and Margaret explore our own relationship with failure—and what you can do next—on this episode of Don’t Say Content. 

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    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Never Forget - Human Connection Sets You Apart

    Never Forget - Human Connection Sets You Apart

    We’ve talked about a lot of things the past 17 episodes—so where have we landed among the strategies and thoughts and endless fodder around the “state of marketing” at the end of this season? Well, we can tell you we’re looking forward to some genuine human connection and fostering authentic content creation in the coming months more than we are into slangin’ the same old worries we’ve been talking about (idk, marketing/exec alignment, AI takeovers, and old school marketing strategies, to name a few). 
    So tune in for a snorkel (not a deep dive) through the topics we’ve covered in season 4, and we hope you’ll stay tuned in for some bonus content to come before season 5 drops this fall. Catch ya later, you jerks. 😉

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    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

    • 31 min
    Adaptive Content Marketing is the Way Through This Mess (with George Chasiotis)

    Adaptive Content Marketing is the Way Through This Mess (with George Chasiotis)

    When times are changin' the rigidity of prescriptive playbooks simply don't work. Instead, companies need adaptive strategies that enable them to capitalize on timely opportunities (the term "growth hacks" comes to mind - with shame), and experiment constantly all while making progress towards their growth goals. Is this the marketing utopia we've all been waiting for? Who knows, but we're excited to hear more about this new, more flexible approach from founder/CEO of Minuttia & GrowthWaves, George Chasiotis.
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    • 54 min
    The K-Hole Echo Chamber of Marketing Lunatics aka LinkedIn These Days

    The K-Hole Echo Chamber of Marketing Lunatics aka LinkedIn These Days

    For all the hype around marketing right now, very little is actually happening besides Google solidifying its dictatorship over businesses trying to use the internet for some free marketing. 

    Nothing is free anymore it seems, except the public displays of insanity by humans on the internet. It’s basically become an adult children’s book of attempted quips gone wrong, and we love it. It’s a stage for guileless dopes fighting for fame in small, dark corners and megaphone platforms alike. 

    This week, instead of trying to flip nothing burgers into $50 wagyu appetizers topped with fake truffle oil, we’re using the internet for the thing it’s best at: free fun. Gather round, children, it’s storytime, and all your favorite characters are here. 

    Links from the show:
    Chocolate Meditation Collection: https://www.vosgeschocolate.com/products/chocolate-meditation-collectionHeike Young's Video: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/heikeyoung_if-i-talked-to-my-kids-like-some-brands-talk-ugcPost-7196524826096730112-DES-Clark Barron's post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/clarkbarron_if-i-see-another-marketing-post-on-linkedin-ugcPost-7197237317206425600-zI8x
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    • 39 min
    How’s Misogyny Doing Since The Last Time We Talked About It?

    How’s Misogyny Doing Since The Last Time We Talked About It?

    We’re not outspoken; we’re speaking…the truth. Our culture doesn’t support women in the workplace effectively (or in some cases, at all), and it doesn’t support the men who are trying to operate and lead equitably, either. But let’s give the bulk of the credit where it’s due: there’s a significant number of  men and women who don’t support change either, often in ways that are subtle and thus difficult to identify, let alone fix.  

    As a follow up to “Let’s Just Say the Things We’re Most Terrified of Talking About: We’ll Go First”, we’re getting even more vulnerable as we continue the discussion about the impact our still misogynist work culture is having on us personally, our friends, the industry, and society as a whole. And the biggest question on our mind: what happens if women simply opt out of the workforce altogether? 

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    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
33 Ratings

33 Ratings

Meganjohnson0910 ,

Marketing needs to hear this and so do you

This podcast is a refreshingly helpful in the sea of useless marketing advice podcasts. Each episode feels like I'm meeting up with two friends to ground ourselves in reality, get advice and support each other. One of my favorites!

ap.marketer ,

Fresh perspective

I listened to the recent podcast from Don’t Say Content and I liked the message: to sound human on our content production. I also appreciate the genuineness of the discussion.

amcgovea ,

Do Say Yes!

I’m a huge fan of this podcast. Devin and Margaret share practical, honest and actionable tips for marketers and founders! I love their personalities too which make the show SO enjoyable. 10/10!

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