10 episodes

Welcome to Eight Drugs a Week, a podcast about the latest in clinical pharmacology.

Your hosts are Florian Lemaitre (France) and Jana Stojanova (Australia), a pair of pharmacology nerds and Beatles fans.

Join us on this journey as we catch up with colleagues around the world and discuss new developments. We’ll delve right into how drug exposure relates to effects and how we can optimize drug concentrations to personalize treatment.

Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.

Eight Drugs a Week Podcast Jana Stojanova & Florian Lemaitre

    • Health & Fitness

Welcome to Eight Drugs a Week, a podcast about the latest in clinical pharmacology.

Your hosts are Florian Lemaitre (France) and Jana Stojanova (Australia), a pair of pharmacology nerds and Beatles fans.

Join us on this journey as we catch up with colleagues around the world and discuss new developments. We’ll delve right into how drug exposure relates to effects and how we can optimize drug concentrations to personalize treatment.

Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.

    IATDMCT Young Scientists: When I’m 64!

    IATDMCT Young Scientists: When I’m 64!

    This episode we're excited to introduce you to the young guns, the bright minds of the Young Scientist Committee of the IATDMCT, who are making waves in this ever-evolving field.
     
    Our guests are Lea Wagmann, Hualin Cai, and Sumith Mathew, each bringing their unique perspectives and experiences from Germany, China, and India, respectively. From their early inspirations to their current endeavours, we'll uncover what drives them and the impact they're making on the future of pharmacology and toxicology. We’ll delve into their expectations for the years ahead, exploring the forefront of the scene and the innovative ideas brewing within the young scientist community.
     
    In this episode we’ll hear about:
    •      Very interesting science each one is working on including quantification to support evaluation of compliance, a suite of modelling tools being applied in the resource limited setting, and the impact of the microbiome on psychopharmacology
    •      First congress experiences: meeting professional heroes and memorable moments
    •      How membership has enabled mentoring opportunities with some of the greats in the field
    •      Facing challenges such as lack of evidence for many drugs and wider need for education and training - and what YS are doing to address these
    •      YS involvement in initiatives such as the recently launched Regional Asian Pacific Section of the Association, and opportunities for support and mentorship in the region
     
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. 
     
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join 
     
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform. 
     
    About our guests: 
    Lea Wagmann is a Clinical Toxicologist and postdoctoral researcher at the Department of Experimental and Clinical Toxicology of the Saarland University in Homburg, Germany.
    Hualin Cai is an Associate Professor of Neuropsychopharmacology and Clinical Toxicology, the Department of Pharmacy and Institute of Clinical Pharmacy, the Second Xiangya Hospital of Central South University, Changsha, China
    Sumith Mathew is an Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Clinical Pharmacology at Christian Medical College, Vellore, India.

    • 31 min
    Got to get microsampling into my life: Got to get you into my life!

    Got to get microsampling into my life: Got to get you into my life!

    This episode is about a fairly recent development in TDM and clinical toxicology that has huge potential, which has actually been used for many decades. It was recently the 50th anniversary of the Guthrie method, where dried blood spots are used to screen inborn errors of metabolism in neonatal infants. Thanks to instrumental developments, dried blood spots, and more generally microsampling approaches, have been increasingly applied to quantify a wide range of drug entities. Although these approaches offer plenty of novel opportunities in our field, they are not without challenges and pitfalls.
     
    Our guests today are two of the biggest names in microsampling – and also absolute IATDMCT VIPs and legends. We are joined by our current president, Jan-Willem Alffenaar, and president-elect, Christophe Stove, for deep dive on the topic.
     
    In this episode we hear about:
    •      Which Beatle might be the most interesting test subject for microsampling evaluation
    •      How low can you go? When does it become a macrosample?
    •      Diverse microsampling approaches: dry, wet, different matrices
    •      Go robust – or go home
    •      Obvious, and not-so-obvious challenges; typical and very novel solutions
    •      Clinical, toxicological and research applications: what the innovators are doing, and potential for even greater global impact
    •      How many times would you prick your finger in a day? The sweet spot in being informative, but not terrible for patients
    •      From the Beatles to ABBA: money, money, money and the place of microsapmpling in health systems
     
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. 
     
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join 
     
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform. 
     
     
    About our guests: 
    Jan-Willem is Professor of Clinical Pharmacology at The University of Sydney, and Chair of Clinical Pharmacy at Westmead Hospital, in Sydney Australia.
     
    Christophe Stove is Professor, and director of the toxicology laboratory, at the Department of Bioanalysis, at Gent University in Belgium.

    • 33 min
    Back to when it all started: Get back!

    Back to when it all started: Get back!

    The recent congress in Oslo was a huge success. We were very glad to catch up with colleagues and hear about some really excellent science. We also bumped into Steve Wong and Phil Walson, first and third presidents of the IATDMCT, and we were delighted they obliged us with an interview about the origins of the Association.
     
    Like with any good origin story, Steve and Phil are true superheroes. Both have held numerous leadership positions in their professions and in professional associations, achieved international cooperation agreements, and advocated nationally and internationally for the quality use of medicines.
     
    We were so wrapped in this interview, that we totally forgot to ask Steve and Phil what their favourite Beatles are - we’ll just have to have them (Get) back!
     
    In this episode we hear about:
    the history and development of the Association, its early years and key figures that contributed to its success the first meetings in Osaka and Chicago, that were followed by the inaugural IATDMCT event in Barcelona the organization's international representation and camaraderie among members the dedication to being international from the start and an emphasis on supporting young scientists the origins and developments of the TDM Journal  
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association.  
      
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join  
      
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform.  
      
    About our guests:  
    Steve is professor of pathology, director of the clinical chemistry and toxicology laboratory, and co-director of the Clinical and Translational Mass Spectrometry Center at the Wake Forest School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
     
    Phil is a Paediatrician, Clinical Pharmacologist, and Medical Toxicologist, was Director of the Clinical Pharmacology Division of the Cincinnati Children's Hospital and is a visiting Professor at the Georg-August-Universitat Medical School, Goettingen, Germany.

    • 37 min
    Personalized Under The Northern Sky! (IATDMCT Oslo 2023): Norwegian Wood

    Personalized Under The Northern Sky! (IATDMCT Oslo 2023): Norwegian Wood

    In this bonus episode, we delve into the upcoming IATDMCT congress that will take place September 24th to 27th in Oslo, Norway . It promises to be an exciting event with varied and highly novel sessions. Joining us today are esteemed IATDMCT scientists and local members of the congress organizing committee: Stein Bergan, Ida Robertson, and Anders Åsberg.
    We delve into their motivations to host the congress and discuss the inspiration behind the theme: 'Personalized under the Northern Sky.' Our guests elaborate on how they will weave this overarching theme through the whole event. We explore some captivating sessions featured on the program, including therapeutic use of orellanine mushroom toxin, TDM of statins, acyclovir & ganciclovir, tacrolimus, microsampling approaches and hands-on sessions. Additionally, we cover the educational initiatives designed specifically for Young Scientists.
    Prepare for an enriching experience filled not only with valuable scientific knowledge but also a great deal of fun. If that's not enough, get ready for some thrilling activities like running and the Holmenkollen Ski Jump. Register for the congress today! 
     
    In this episode we hear about:
    ●    IATDMCT Oslo 2023: introducing our committee members
    ●    The motivation behind the congress theme: Personalized Under the Northern Sky
    ●    What’s in it for me? Why attend the Oslo congress.
    ●    Double the usual number of plenaries, including one about the therapeutic use of orellanine mushroom toxin
    ●    Hands-on pre-congress event: deep-dive into microsampling approaches to enhance clinical applications and research efforts 
    ●    Educational initiatives for Young Scientists
    ●    Satisfying all your needs: networking opportunities, the social program and unique activities only Oslo can offer   
     
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. 
     
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join 
     
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform. 
     

    About our guests: 
    Stein Bergan
    Congress Chair. Group leader at the precision pharmacotherapy research group of Oslo University Hospital, Dept of Pharmacology. He is also a professor of the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo
    Ida Robertson
    Associate Professor at the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo and a member of the Pharmacokinetics Research Group. 
    Anders Åsberg
    Head of the laboratory for renal physiology at Oslo University Hospital and adjunct Professor of the department of Pharmacy at University of Oslo.

    • 24 min
    TDM of antiretroviral drugs: The continuing story (of Bungalow Bill)…

    TDM of antiretroviral drugs: The continuing story (of Bungalow Bill)…

    This episode is about the TDM of antiretroviral drugs, an area with a boom in research output in the late 90s and early 2000s, generating enough randomized controls trials for a substantial systematic Cochrane review on the topic (a rare thing for TDM research!). It’s an ever-evolving space, where drug regimens are continually refined with newer drug options with fewer adverse effects. However, we have learned a lot through concentration monitoring, and TDM continues to be very useful in optimizing treatment. As our title suggests, this is a continuing story.
    Our guests today are Natella Rakhmanina and Dario Cattaneo, who have been involved in the story since the beginning but from different perspectives, Natella as a paediatric infectious diseases specialist and Dario as a clinical pharmacologist. We cover the history, discuss the role that TDM has today and consider where things are headed.
    In this episode we hear about:
    •    The usefulness and limitations of using TDM to monitor adherence.
    •    Diverse niche patient scenarios where TDM can be very helpful, which are not at all uncommon. 
    •    Interesting challenges where TDM can be helpful, some that are particular to paediatric patients, and others to elderly HIV patients.
    •    Learnings from TDM for long-acting drugs in psychiatry, and the implications for novel depot antiretroviral formulations.
    •    Drug interaction attributable to antiretrovirals, and those that affect them.
    •    Why, despite viral monitoring, TDM for antiretrovirals can still be very useful. 
    •    What Paxlovid tastes like.
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. 
     
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join 
     
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform. 
     
    About our guests:
    Natella Rakhmanina is a Professor at the Department of Paediatrics, School of Medicine and Health Sciences of The George Washington University. She is also director of HIV Services of the Division of Infectious Diseases at the Children’s National Hospital in Washington.
    Dario Cattaneo is currently the President of the IATDMCT. He is a clinical pharmacologist at Luigi Sacco University Hospital in Milan and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Milan, Italy.

    • 38 min
    TDM of anticancer drugs: We can work it out!

    TDM of anticancer drugs: We can work it out!

    This episode is about the TDM of anticancer therapies, a space where there is a sense of frustration about body-size based dosing, but while concentration-based promises to make a difference to clinical care, it still feels that progress has been less than satisfying. Florian opens the episode with an ode to oncologists, a song from the heart to say: ‘We can work it out!’  
     
    Our guests today are Dirk Jan Moes and Vikram Gota, both very active in ‘working things out’ in the space, in different corners of the world. We unpack the many challenges but arrive at the conclusion that for TDM in oncology, ‘the future is bright!’
     
    In this episode we hear about:
    Older anticancer drugs: can we do new tricks with old drugs, or have we missed the boat? The importance of the drug label and reimbursement for clinical implementation Anticancer drugs and clinical contexts where microsampling can enhance implementation Financial toxicity: should we be styling ourselves as financial toxicologists!? Progress in the paediatric space Combining  concentration measurement with pharmacogenetics, biomarkers and model informed precision dosing Buy-in: the importance of clinical champions and education initiatives  
    Eight Drugs a Week is supported by the International Association of Therapeutic Drug Monitoring and Clinical Toxicology (IATDMCT). The personal views of the hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the position of the Association. 
     
    To join IATDMCT, visit https://www.iatdmct.org/member-join 
     
    Subscribe to Eight Drugs a Week on your preferred podcast platform. 
     
     
    About our guests: 
    Dirk Jan Moes is a Laboratory Hospital Pharmacist and Clinical Pharmacologist, Assistant Professor of Applied Clinical Pharmacometrics at the Department of Clinical Pharmacy and Toxicology at the Leiden University Medical Centre in The Netherlands. 
     
    Vikram Gota is an MD, Professor & Officer-in-charge of the Department of Clinical Pharmacology at the Advanced Centre for Treatment Research & Education in Cancer at the Tate Memorial Centre in Mumbai, India.

    • 43 min

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