In this episode of the Finding New Waters Podcast, host B. Reeves is joined by Patrick Balsey, founder of Sauna Counseling, Sauna House, and Sauna Recovery Foundation, and Mike Gminski, former Duke and NBA basketball player turned recovery advocate and mentor. Together, they explore what recovery really looks like when it’s built on safety, humility, community, and purpose. Patrick shares how Sauna has grown from a small counseling practice into a multi-phase extended care program for men, along with the launch of the Sauna Recovery Foundation, a nonprofit created to support families, reduce stigma, and help communities navigate addiction and recovery. Mike opens up about his journey from elite athletics and broadcasting to deep personal loss, addiction, surrender, and long-term sobriety. He shares how recovery reshaped his faith, purpose, and identity, and why transparency and community are essential to healing. This conversation dives deep into surrender, humility, gratitude, family recovery, and why addiction is less about substances and more about the way we relate to life itself. ⸻ ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:00 Patrick Balsey’s return and the growth of Sauna 05:00 Sauna Counseling and Sauna House explained 08:00 Psychodrama, safety, and clinical culture 12:00 Sauna Recovery Foundation and family support 16:00 Mike Gminski’s athletic background (Duke & NBA) 19:00 Alcohol, broadcasting, and gradual progression 23:00 Loss, grief, and spiraling addiction 27:00 Intervention, accountability, and entering treatment 31:00 Recovery, faith, and public transparency 36:00 Surrender, humility, and healing 40:00 Community, safety, and long-term recovery 45:00 Gratitude, purpose, and life after addiction 49:00 How to connect with Sauna ⸻ 🔑 Key Topics Covered • Extended care and long-term recovery • Family healing and community education • Addiction beyond substances • Surrender and humility in recovery • Grief, loss, and relapse risk • Professional athletes and addiction stigma • Faith, gratitude, and purpose ⸻ 🎧 Listen, Share, and Subscribe Follow Finding New Waters Instagram: www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery Facebook: www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc ⸻ 🎙️ Watch & Listen Website: www.findingnewwaters.com Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn