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Seth Nelson is a Tampa based family lawyer known for devising creative solutions to difficult problems. In How to Split a Toaster, Nelson and co-host Pete Wright take on the challenge of divorce with a central objective — saving your most important relationships with your family, your former spouse, and yourself.

How to Split a Toaster: A Divorce Podcast About Saving Your Relationships TruStory FM

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    • 5.0 • 31 Ratings

Seth Nelson is a Tampa based family lawyer known for devising creative solutions to difficult problems. In How to Split a Toaster, Nelson and co-host Pete Wright take on the challenge of divorce with a central objective — saving your most important relationships with your family, your former spouse, and yourself.

    Rebroadcast • Keeping Kids as the Focus: Successful Co-Parenting with Sarah Armstrong

    Rebroadcast • Keeping Kids as the Focus: Successful Co-Parenting with Sarah Armstrong

    “We owe it to them to ensure they’re not collateral damage due to this divorce.”
    Meet Sarah Armstrong
    Sarah works at Google but decided as a side gig to write her book “The Mom’s Guide to a Good Divorce: What to Think Through When Children Are Involved” largely because it gave her the opportunity to share what she’d learned during her own divorce with others. And that’s not to say her divorce was a cakewalk. It was hard. It provided challenges for her, her ex, and their daughter. But through it all, they maintained the belief that they had to do what was best for their daughter. Hence, the good divorce.
    Seth and Pete talk to Sarah about the decision to make the divorce a good one and how it shaped everything from that point forward. They talk about what it means to ‘do what’s best for the children.’ They discuss logistics, scheduling conflicts, and soccer games. They also talk about the battles over things like first right of refusal.
    It’s also important to think beyond the years your kids will be under your roofs. What about when they’re older? Are you working to build that relationship beyond 18? How should you act when they’re young? Should you consider counseling for your child?
    It’s a wide-ranging conversation that digs into a lot of topics that can help you as you work through your own divorce.
    About Sarah
    Sarah Armstrong, good divorce proponent and author of The Mom’s Guide to a Good Divorce, is vice president, global marketing operations, at Google and proud mom of Grace, who will be a sophomore in college in the fall of 2022. Sarah is a mentor to other women in business, and longtime volunteer at various nonprofit organizations, including Jack & Jill Late Stage Cancer Foundation, Georgetown Alumni Admissions Program and Trinity Table Soup Kitchen.
    Prior to joining Google, Sarah was a partner at McKinsey & Co. and worked at The Coca-Cola Company in global marketing for twenty years, where she led Worldwide Agency Operations across 200 countries. Sarah started her career at Leo Burnett (Chicago) in Media. Sarah’s work has been recognized around the world, resulting in her being named one of Ad Age’s “Women to Watch” and included in Ad Age’s Book of Tens (“Top Ten Who Made Their Mark in 2009”).
    Sarah was raised in Birmingham, Michigan with two younger brothers and happily married parents (for over fifty years and still going strong). She attended Georgetown University, as a scholarship athlete, earning a Bachelor of Science degree from the School of Business Administration with a major in marketing. She was a four-year starter on the Georgetown University Volleyball Team.
    Sarah loves traveling the world and has been fortunate to travel to 55+ countries. She enjoys exploring new cities with Grace whenever possible. Sarah lives in San Francisco.
    Links & Notes
    Sarah’s WebsiteFind Sarah on LinkedIn or FacebookThe Mom’s Guide to a Good Divorce: What to Think Through When Children Are InvolvedSchedule a consult with SethGot a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!
    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (02:06) - Meet Sarah Armstrong
    (02:58) - Advocating for Good Divorce
    (06:10) - Her Own Divorce
    (08:24) - Having a Good Divorce
    (14:36) - Minimizing the Gaps
    (19:14) - Sponsor: Soberlink
    (21:38) - Other Routines
    (26:14) - Kids Adapting to Change
    (31:01) - Making New Lives Work Apart
    (32:01) - Right of Refusal
    (33:24) - Showing Consolidarity
    (37:04) - Navigating as a Working Mom
    (40:02) - Universal Truths
    (41:24) - Introducing New Significant Others
    (44:18) - When They Struggle With Change
    (49:40) - Counseling
    (50:55) - Your Family of Choice
    (53:49) - Sarah's Book and Website

    • 57 min
    Rebroadcast • Healing Trauma, Rebuilding Life with Dee Wallace

    Rebroadcast • Healing Trauma, Rebuilding Life with Dee Wallace

    How do you heal after living through the trauma of divorce? How do you help your kids heal when they live through their own experience of your trauma? Whether you consider yours an easy divorce, or a hard one, the act of separating lives is traumatic, and the impact of trauma can sneak up on you.
    As we wrap up this season of the show, we want to take some time to talk about that healing process and we have the perfect guest to help us do that. Dee Wallace is an actor and a healer, and she’s spent the last twenty years of her career in channeled healing work. She is an advocate and teacher in the art of self-creation and the author of five books on the subject. She’s also been divorced more than once and knows a thing or two about healing through trauma herself.
    As an actor, you might have seen one of her more than 260 credits including E.T., Cujo, The Howling, and on, and on, and on. What’s more, her most important role is as “Mom” to Toaster alum Gabrielle Stone, who taught us all about her divorce experience in Eat, Pray, #FML.
    Dee’s career and relationship stories make for an incredible conversation and we’re deeply grateful for her time, participation, and joy in the Toaster this week. 
    We’re setting up for a short break as we head into the holiday season and will be replaying a few of our favorite episodes over the next month or so, but we’ll be back with new episodes in February. We’re grateful for this community, and all of you out there working to save your most important relationships. On behalf of all of us on Team Toaster — Seth, Pete, Andy, Melissa, Ken, and Karolynn — we wish you a happy holiday season full of peace, love, and joy.

    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (02:31) - Meet Dee Wallace
    (06:14) - Finding Happiness
    (08:40) - New Perspective on Relationships
    (11:15) - Dee's Bona fides
    (12:49) - Setting Boundaries
    (13:47) - Male Perspective Shift Needed
    (20:03) - Trauma
    (23:50) - Choices
    (28:29) - Grief
    (31:33) - Choices In The Divorce Process
    (35:15) - Back to Choices
    (38:37) - Growing in Wisdom
    (42:26) - Dee's Books
    (47:39) - Wrapping Up

    • 51 min
    Demystifying Divorce Appeals: An Insider’s Guide from Judge Matt Lucas

    Demystifying Divorce Appeals: An Insider’s Guide from Judge Matt Lucas

    Navigating the Appeals Process in Divorce with Judge Matt LucasFor our final episode of the season, Seth Nelson and Pete Wright chat with Judge Matt Lucas, an appellate court judge from the Florida Second District Court of Appeals, about the mysterious appeals process in divorce cases. They aim to shed light on what an appeal is, what appellate judges do, and what happens behind the scenes at the appellate court.
    This insightful episode covers the technical details of appeals and how they differ from the original divorce trial. Judge Lucas provides an inside look at this complex process from an experienced judge's perspective.
    The discussion focuses on the mechanics of appeals - what grounds are needed to file one, the specific issues that can be appealed, the logistics of how appeals courts operate, and more. 
    Questions we answer in this episode:
    What is an appeal and what does an appellate judge do?What are the grounds for appealing a divorce judgment?How long does an appeal take and what happens during the process?Key Takeaways:
    Appeals focus on alleged legal errors, not just unfavorable outcomes.The appeals process involves new legal issues and standards of review.Appeals require precise arguments about specific aspects of the lower court's ruling.This episode offers rare insight into the mysterious appeals process direct from an appellate judge. Seth and Pete breakdown this complex topic in an accessible way, making it easy to understand for anyone going through a divorce. Listeners will learn what to expect during appeals and how to navigate them effectively.
    Links & Notes
    Check out Judge Lucas’ books!Schedule a consult with SethGot a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!
    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (01:19) - Meet Judge Matt Lucas
    (03:28) - The Appeals Process
    (15:37) - Trial Lawyer vs. Appellate Lawyer
    (18:03) - Overturn Frequency
    (24:06) - When You Win
    (29:59) - Enforcement
    (31:06) - Other Questions
    (38:55) - A Few Last Points
    (47:48) - Writing on the Side
    (49:18) - Wrapping Up

    • 51 min
    Reinventing Life After Divorce with Dawn Fleming

    Reinventing Life After Divorce with Dawn Fleming

    Reinvent Yourself After DivorceIn this week's episode, Seth and Pete chat with midlife reinvention expert Dawn Fleming about rebuilding your life after divorce. They cover everything from rediscovering old hobbies to going back to school to finding new purpose and passion.
    Seth and Pete start by unpacking Dawn's own "attorney turned alchemist" story. She shares how she reinvented herself multiple times through divorce, career changes, spiritual journeys, and ultimately creating a life of adventure and service with her husband.
    Some key themes explored include:
    Finding confidence and esteem after divorceLearning new skills to grow yourselfReconnecting with old passions and interestsEstablishing a support network of friendsEmbracing change and new chaptersQuestions we answer in this episode:
    How do I move forward after divorce?What next steps should I take?How can I find purpose?Key Takeaways:
    Try new things and find what you used to loveBuild your confidence through accomplishmentsSurround yourself with positive peopleBe open to reinvention and changePlus, we tackle a listener question about how Seth handles working with clients who have emotional dysregulation or mental health issues during the divorce process.
    This uplifting episode will leave you feeling empowered, motivated, and excited about the possibilities ahead after divorce. Tune in for an insightful discussion on reinventing yourself!
    Links & Notes
    claimyourdreamlifebook.comlifeinparadisepodcast.com Schedule a consult with SethGot a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!
    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (01:19) - Meet Dawn Fleming
    (07:22) - Avoid Being an Island
    (11:47) - Reminding Yourself of What You Enjoyed
    (23:19) - Retuning for a New Partner
    (27:26) - Dawn’s Program
    (31:29) - Dawn’s Programs
    (35:49) - Finding Dawn
    (36:45) - Listener Question
    (41:29) - Wrap Up

    • 43 min
    Mindset Makeover with Hilary DeCesare

    Mindset Makeover with Hilary DeCesare

    Transforming Mindset and Finding Hope After DivorceSeth and Pete welcome Hilary DeCesare, founder of Relaunch Co. and expert in neuropsychology, to discuss shifting limiting beliefs during divorce. This episode focuses on adjusting your mindset during a challenging life transition like divorce. Hilary shares her 3HQ model for getting into your best emotional and mental state before major conversations or decisions.
    Questions we answer in this episode:
    How do I stop negative self-talk during my divorce?What daily habits can help me feel more empowered and optimistic?Key Takeaways:
    Tuning into an empowering song for 20 seconds can shift your emotional stateVisualizing your ideal scenario helps anchor positive intentionsSmall daily actions create momentum towards your goalsHilary introduces her TuneIn process to help people get into their "G-zone" - a state of gratitude, growth and greatness. This four-step practice takes just two minutes but can rewire your perspective before big moments. Seth and Pete also discuss using music and imagination games to ease difficult transitions for kids.
    Whether you feel stuck in negativity or want to manifest an empowered mindset, this episode provides actionable tips to transform your emotional experience during divorce. Tune in to gain hope and clarity.
    Links & Notes
    Visit Hilary on the Web, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, and YouTubeThe Relaunch PodcastRead Hilary’s Book ReLaunch! Spark Your Heart To Ignite Your LifeTry the Tune In Power ToolSchedule a consult with SethGot a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!
    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (01:19) - Meet Hilary DeCesare
    (02:09) - Taking Control
    (09:37) - When It Gets In Your Way
    (12:35) - Awareness and Choice
    (13:39) - ‘I Am’ Statements
    (14:02) - The Higher Self
    (17:13) - Self Before Others
    (19:55) - Tune In
    (25:58) - Rewiring Over Time
    (33:21) - With the Kids
    (36:41) - Finding Hilary
    (38:08) - Wrap Up

    • 40 min
    Toasting Our Destinies: Pete and Seth Get Astrologized

    Toasting Our Destinies: Pete and Seth Get Astrologized

    Seth and Pete welcome back author and astrologer Bethany Nicole for a fun, end-of-year bonus episode to dive into astrology and what their birth charts reveal about themselves. Can ancient astrological wisdom provide guidance and direction or is this just a fun experiment? Bethany interprets Seth and Pete's charts to uncover strengths, weaknesses, and life paths.
    This astrology session provides some eye-opening self-discovery and personal growth for the hosts, all while allowing for a lighthearted way to wrap up the year. With an open mind, Seth and Pete gain some insights into their subconscious drivers, relationship patterns, and keys to fulfilling their potential. Though initially skeptical, they have an entertaining time peeling back the layers of their inner selves.
    Links & Notes
    Visit Bethany’s site to find her book and get a readingListen to our past episode with BethanyCheck out Seth’s or Pete’s birth chartsSchedule a consult with SethGot a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!
    (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
    (01:19) - Welcome Back Bethany Nicole
    (03:36) - Setting Up the Readings
    (09:04) - Seth’s Chart
    (27:46) - Pete’s Chart
    (45:18) - Last Notes
    (54:19) - Wrap Up

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Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
31 Ratings

31 Ratings

Bluejeana ,

Binge Worthy

Binge listener here. This podcast has brought me out of my terrified state and provided confidence to walk through a necessary step towards healing in my life. A Valuable learning listen.

Maryland Amy ,

Best of the divorce podcasts

I feel like Seth was MY lawyer in my divorce as this podcast really helped me learn a lot but also felt like I was hanging out with friends.

SallyAnneSmith75 ,

Fun, Informative Podcast

This is such a great podcast. Seth and Pete do such a wonderful job and are engaging.

I’ve learned a lot when listening and have enjoyed myself. They are funny and have a great conversational style. They do their homework when interviewing guests and it shows.

You don’t need to be getting a divorce to find wisdom in this podcast as well as take action items to support you in having better relationships.

Thanks, guys!

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