33 episodes

In this weekly show, Frank Magree and Jenny Valentish explore wellness claims. With the help of experts and enthusiasts, the pair road-test disciplines and experiences such as cuddle clubs, facilitated breath repatterning, tantra, motivational techniques, extreme weight cutting, saunas, fasting, colonics, and radical couples therapy, to see if they can extract practical benefits from the more out-there concepts. Now meet your hosts.

Journalist Jenny Valentish considers herself to have a healthy sense of scepticism. She’s a former amateur bodybuilder and amateur Muay Thai fighter (a professional amateur, if you will), with a tendency to treat her body mean to keep it keen. Her book Everything Harder Than Everyone Else delves into what drives athletes who push their bodies to extremes, while her Walkley-nominated memoir Woman of Substances examines a bigger picture about addictive behaviour and gender, crunching 300 studies and interviewing 30 experts in the process.

She has the perfect foil in actor Frank Magree, a cold water therapy and breathwork devotee, keen to go deeper into new age and anti-ageing activities. The tennis player in him is fascinated by peptides and recovery hacks. The performer in him harbours a not-so-secret desire to become more guru-like. Frank is an award-winning filmmaker 12 times over and as an actor specialising in bad dudes has been murdered 10 times by his estimation. Hopefully his obsession with longevity books and biohackers will preserve him as a fighting-fit fella in real life.

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Spirit Levels Jenny Valentish and Frank Magree

    • Health & Fitness

In this weekly show, Frank Magree and Jenny Valentish explore wellness claims. With the help of experts and enthusiasts, the pair road-test disciplines and experiences such as cuddle clubs, facilitated breath repatterning, tantra, motivational techniques, extreme weight cutting, saunas, fasting, colonics, and radical couples therapy, to see if they can extract practical benefits from the more out-there concepts. Now meet your hosts.

Journalist Jenny Valentish considers herself to have a healthy sense of scepticism. She’s a former amateur bodybuilder and amateur Muay Thai fighter (a professional amateur, if you will), with a tendency to treat her body mean to keep it keen. Her book Everything Harder Than Everyone Else delves into what drives athletes who push their bodies to extremes, while her Walkley-nominated memoir Woman of Substances examines a bigger picture about addictive behaviour and gender, crunching 300 studies and interviewing 30 experts in the process.

She has the perfect foil in actor Frank Magree, a cold water therapy and breathwork devotee, keen to go deeper into new age and anti-ageing activities. The tennis player in him is fascinated by peptides and recovery hacks. The performer in him harbours a not-so-secret desire to become more guru-like. Frank is an award-winning filmmaker 12 times over and as an actor specialising in bad dudes has been murdered 10 times by his estimation. Hopefully his obsession with longevity books and biohackers will preserve him as a fighting-fit fella in real life.

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    Grief is the Price of Love

    Grief is the Price of Love

    How do we confront the mortality of someone we love? In the final episode of this season of Spirit Levels, our guests help Jenny through her existential fear of Frank’s death (it’s okay, he’s fine).
     
    Lo Carmen, host of the podcast Death Is Not the End, talks romantic death pop, funeral song choices and turning ashes into records. Kimba Griffith, of The Last Hurrah Funerals, discusses the fine and varied ways in which you can send off your person. Memoirist Elly Varrenti shares the difficulty in forever being the ‘other woman’ when in a relationship with a widower.
     
    Is it a coincidence this episode came about after we visited the Capuchin Catacombs in Sicily and saw all the mummies dressed in their Sunday best, so that their grieving relatives never have to let them go? No. But also, preparing for our own deaths is a vital part of life admin, and something we all need to give proper thought.
    This will be the last episode from us for a while as we take time out to work on a special season. What a great time to play catch-up with our 28 episodes! Please stay followed and subscribed for those updates. See you on the other side…
    LINKS
    Jenny writing for The Guardian about Frank risking his life on their wedding day.
    Lo Carmen’s podcast Death is Not the End.
    The Last Hurrah Funerals.
    Elly Varrenti’s writing.
    Spirit Levels on Instagram.
    Newsletter.

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    • 39 min
    Facing Fears

    Facing Fears

    What are you afraid of, reasonably or unreasonably? And what can help combat that? Hypnosis? Exposure therapy? Flooding? Guidance? In episode 27 of Spirit Levels we use Jenny’s fear of sharks as a case study, meeting with Will Salter, a man who came eye to eye with a great white shark when surfing; Lola Broomhall, a freediver and breathwork practitioner, and hypnotist Jeremy Walker.
    LINKS
    Lola Broomhall: breathwork, physio, freediving workshops, professional mermaiding!
    Hey, if you like the tune that’s playing near the beginning, when Jenny and Frank are talking about fear, that’s ‘Summer of Sad’ by Salty Lips.
    St Andrews Beach Community Choir sang the ‘Don’t Be Scared of the Ocean’ refrain and are based on the Mornington Peninsula.
    The Summit AI coach Jenny used (free!)
    Hypnotist Jeremy Walker
    A wonderful story about freediving by Michael Adams in the Australian Review of Books.

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    • 36 min
    Optimal Morning Routines

    Optimal Morning Routines

    We’re going to be in Bali by the time you hear this, gathering some more weird wellness intel, so this ep we handed the mic over to our listeners to find out how they start the day the right way. From oil pulling, to 5 Tibetan rites to doing naked squats in the elements… we really feel like we know them very well now.
     
    LINKS
    Among our contributors this episode were Mena from Human Thriving (who spoke about glucose)...
    And Katie from Therapeutic Eating (who spoke about objectivity).
    Spirit Levels on Instagram.
    Our newsletter.


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    • 11 min
    What Would the Stoics Do?

    What Would the Stoics Do?

    Who the hell would want to be a Stoic? That was journalist Brigid Delaney’s thought when she was commissioned to write a book on Stoic philosophy. Brigid felt she was more Epicurean by nature if anything, but having now written the book Reasons Not to Worry: How to be Stoic in Chaotic Times, she's happy to admit Marcus Aurelius and co. rule her life.
    In this episode, Brigid walks us through:
    What to do when you have FOMO in your career.
    What to do with feeling of failure.
    What to do when you piss off your neighbour.
    What to do when conflicts escalate.
    How to cope with disaster.
    How to create structure around your drinking habits.
    And how to make your own shame vaccine.
     
    Jenny reflects on how her thinking was transformed by Stoicism during a stint at Alcoholics Anonymous. Frank insists he’s a Stoic, despite regularly pulling hand guns on tradies.
    LINKS
    Brigid Delaney's book Reasons Not to Worry
    Brigid Delaney's book Wellmania
    Spirit Levels on Instagram
    Our newsletter

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    • 29 min
    Life Coach Cults

    Life Coach Cults

    If your life coach is a psychopath, is that necessarily a bad thing? Coaching is marketed to wannabes as a luxury, business-class lifestyle that grants you total freedom and easy money. (And oh yeah, you might have to deal with some clients in crisis, too.) You’ve just got to learn how to hustle, which means paying a whoop-load of cash to other coaches to get 'the codes'. Possibly for the rest of your life.
    This episode, Frank and Jenny revisit their favourite topic, piggybacking off the Netflix UK documentary Psychopath Life Coach.
    We ask our guest Danielle Ryan – a former life coach who now makes explainer videos dissecting the scammier side of the industry – what trends she’s seeing. These range from the escalating industry of coaches coaching coaches, to the ‘fitness coach to business coach pipeline’, to business coaches rebranding as spiritual coaches.
    Along the way, Frank and Jenny discuss Matthew McConaughey’s infiltration into coaching, sweat-lodge disaster guy James Arthur Ray, NLP, Landmark and Dale Carnegie. We also get Jenny’s Indonesian language teacher Jamsen on the show, to talk about how life coaches are taking over Bali and his take on whether that’s all bad.
    By the way, if you dig this episode, you’ll love our eps Make Me a Life Coach and also the episode Energy Healing, Manifesting and The Placebo Effect.
    LINKS
    Danielle Ryan on the most common business coaching scams.
    Danielle Ryan’s videos on NLP, part one and part two.
    Jenny’s Bahasa teacher, Jamsen. Hire him!
    Jenny talking about life coaching on ABC radio and Disrupt radio (scroll down to Mar 12).
    Further reading: Is Life Coaching Just Modern Sophistry? (Quillette) Life Coaching Industry Scams (BBC). The Cult-like Language That’s Coursing Through Business (Inc). Jay Shetty’s monk back-story questioned (The Guardian).
    Leave us a voice message for a future episode on Speakpipe.
    Spirit Levels on Instagram.
    Our newsletter.


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    • 1 hr 6 min
    Nudity and Naturism

    Nudity and Naturism

    The English and the Australians – of which we here at Spirit Levels represent both – are notoriously prudish when it comes to nudity, so Frank and Jenny want to know if they can break their conditioning. This episode takes us from tischtennis halls of Berlin to the secret beaches of Australia. Listen along:
    01.16 Frank slept in his mum and dad’s bed till he was six.
    02.33 Titillation is not the same as nudity (yeah, Frank).
    03.56 Lucian Freud: Oh my god.
    04.20 Are all nudists = perverts or is that just an English equation?
    05.48 Nude sport options in Berlin.
    06.35 Visiting Stadtbad Neukölln.
    08.41 Freikopterkultur (FKK) and ‘free body culture’ in Germany.
    10.15 Ela, from Frankfurt Oder, tells us about FKK when she was growing up.
    16.18 How Bravo magazine freaked out Ela’s sister’s host family in the US.
    18.21 Finally! Time for the nude table tennis.
    20.01 Naturists and conservation (featuring a cameo from a rare orchid).
    22.35 Jenny and Frank go ‘beyond the wire’ in Portsea.
    25.02 A sad story about jetskis.
    29.44 Ritualistic nude events, like Dark Mofo’s Winter Solstice Swim and the Sydney Skinny.
    30.20 Yoni sunning – the kinda Taoist practice that draws in solar energy and Vitamin D.
    LINKS
    Stadtbad Neukölln
    Dark Mofo Nude Solstice Swim
    The Sydney Skinny
    Leave us a voice message for a future episode on Speakpipe
    Spirit Levels on Instagram
    Our newsletter

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    • 32 min

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