Podcasting Morning Chat

Marc Ronick

The only daily morning show for creators, by creators! Join 20-year podcast pro, Marc Ronick and an incredible team of podcasters as they dive into everything from starting a podcast, to audience growth, monetization, booking guests, using the latest AI tools and more. It's a 'morning show meets mastermind' for content creators! Tune in live weekdays at 7 AM EST on Clubhouse (yes, Clubhouse!) or catch up anytime right here or any podcast platform. The Podcasting Morning Chat - Connect. Grow. Create.

  1. 475. Is Your Podcast Too Conversational?

    5H AGO

    475. Is Your Podcast Too Conversational?

    In this week’s mailbag episode, we get into a question a lot of podcasters wrestle with: can a podcast actually be too conversational? We unpack what people really mean when they say they want their show to feel natural and why the best conversations still need a bit of direction to keep listeners hooked. As we go, we also take on another common concern: whether you can grow a podcast from scratch, and talk honestly about what that journey looks like, why your “why” matters more than numbers early on, and how those first few listeners and simple word of mouth can slowly build something real. Episode Highlights: [00:05] Opening and introduction to today’s mailbag episode [10:00] Mailbag Question #1: Can a podcast be too conversational? [12:30] Why structure still matters, even in relaxed conversations [17:22] The role of the host in guiding the discussion [20:05] How to recognize when a conversation has gone off track [29:44] Practical ways to keep conversations natural but focused [40:51] Audience vs. community. What’s the difference? [45:00] Mailbag Question #2: Can you grow a podcast from scratch? [50:00] Defining your “why” and what success actually means [54:00] The power of word-of-mouth growth Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podcastingmorningchat.com Meet the PMC Cast and Crew: https://podcastingmorningchat.com/people Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://podcastingmorningchat.com/eval Join us Mondays at 7 AM ET for the Obsession Worthy Podcasts:http://podcastingmorningchat.com/owp/ Support the CMTA https://cmtausa.org/ Podcaster Happy Hour on 3/26/26 in North Bethesda, MD https://podcastingmorningchat.com/epcmarch Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://podcastingmorningchat.com/clubhouse Learn more about Podcastthon: https://podcastthon.org Washington DC Meetup Details: https://podcastingmorningchat.com/epcmarch Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    56 min
  2. 474. Podcast Storytelling Secrets from the ‘Search Engine’ Podcast

    1D AGO

    474. Podcast Storytelling Secrets from the ‘Search Engine’ Podcast

    In this week’s Obsession Worthy Podcasts, we break down an episode of Search Engine to explore what makes the show so compelling, and what the rest of us can learn from it as podcasters. Using their episode about Anthropic’s Claude AI as our example, we look at how Search Engine pulls listeners in with emotion, builds curiosity by expanding the questions at just the right moments, and uses layered storytelling to keep people engaged from start to finish. Along the way, we unpack how mystery, tension, relatability, and deeper human stakes can make an episode far more memorable and binge-worthy. Episode Highlights: [00:05] Opening and introduction to the Obsession Worthy Podcasts segment [05:27] Jonathan Howard explains the concept behind OWP and the featured podcast [08:44] The host introduces “future nausea,” the uneasy feeling about rapid AI progress [15:58] How polarized opinions shape the public conversation about AI [18:14] A simulation shows Claude choosing blackmail to avoid being deleted [22:00] The deeper question: does AI reason or simply predict patterns [29:51] How human influence and bias shape the responses AI systems generate [33:32] Why an AI company hired a philosopher to help guide ethical behavior [43:48] The motivations behind AI development, from solving big problems to simple curiosity [49:49] Lessons podcasters can learn from the storytelling approach used in the episode Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podcastingmorningchat.com Meet the PMC Cast and Crew: https://podcastingmorningchat.com/people Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://podcastingmorningchat.com/eval Join us Mondays at 7 AM ET for the Obsession Worthy Podcasts:http://podcastingmorningchat.com/owp/ Listen to Search Engine’s, Mysteries of Claude https://pod.link/1614253637/episode/ZjZkZjU0MDYtOGFhNy0xMWYwLWE5MzEtYzMxMDljOTk4NWQ1 Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://podcastingmorningchat.com/clubhouse Learn more about Podcastthon: https://podcasthon.org/about Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    57 min
  3. 473. The Best & Worst Parts of Podcasting

    4D AGO

    473. The Best & Worst Parts of Podcasting

    What’s the best part of podcasting… and what’s the part nobody warns you about? Today,  we explore the highs and lows that come with running a podcast. This ranges from hosting meaningful conversations to frustrations that show up behind the scenes. You’ll hear stories about common mistakes, the pressure around monetization, the grind of promotion, and the many moving parts that go into producing a show. At the same time, the conversation highlights why so many creators keep showing up behind the mic: the relationships, the growth, and the impact their content can have over time. We also spin the Wheel of Jargon to unpack what “hosting” actually means in podcasting, and we wrap up the week by sharing our wins and celebrating our accomplishments. Episode Highlights:  [02:12] Next week preview [09:52] Wheel of Jargon begins [11:06] What a hosting platform actually means [17:00] Best and worst parts of podcasting [18:09] Listener stories and perspectives [26:53] Promotion burnout and sustainability [28:03] The power of an email list [29:28] Keeping up with industry trends [31:11] Paid ads that actually work [33:32] Using audience polls for targeting [38:32] Meetup announcement [40:01] Weekly wins roundup Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header PodGlue: www.podglue.com  PMC #217 Grow to 100K Downloads on a Budget with Tyler Perry: www.podcastingmorningchat.com/s1e217 Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    50 min
  4. 472. What Podcast Metrics Do Sponsors Actually Care About?

    5D AGO

    472. What Podcast Metrics Do Sponsors Actually Care About?

    ​​So you’ve landed your first sponsor. Now you start thinking… What do they actually want to see from you? Downloads? Listener behavior? Something else entirely? Today, we’re opening the mailbag to tackle a question from one of our very own cohosts, Sid, who wondered what kind of analytics sponsors really care about and how podcasters should present that information to keep the relationship strong. Do downloads matter as much as we think they do? What metrics actually tell the story of your audience? And do sponsors even care about the same numbers podcasters obsess over? We explore what sponsors may want to learn from podcast analytics, what data might be useful to share, and how creators can think about reporting in a way that supports a long-term partnership. We also briefly touch on another question… is there really a difference between a DIY podcaster and an indie podcaster, or is it mostly semantics? Episode Highlights:  [02:54] Indie vs. DIY podcasting debate [06:43] What sponsors actually want in analytics reports [13:44] Trackable links, promo codes, and proving ROI [25:35] AI tools for generating editable slide decks [29:47] Apple versus host analytics mismatch Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header BuzzSprout Analytics:  https://www.buzzsprout.com/blog/apple-podcasts-analytics OP3:  https://op3.dev/ Podpage:  https://www.podpage.com/?via=ironickmedia Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    37 min
  5. 471. Amazon Shuts Down Wondery App. Bad Sign for Podcasts?

    6D AGO

    471. Amazon Shuts Down Wondery App. Bad Sign for Podcasts?

    Why would Amazon shut down the standalone Wondery app after investing so heavily in podcasting? Today, we look at that headline and what it might signal about how major platforms are rethinking their podcast strategy. If a company like Amazon is shifting direction, it raises important questions about where podcast distribution and monetization may be headed next. Today is news day, and we also discuss growing concerns around Libsyn after reports of technical issues and a declining share of new podcast episodes, which has many podcasters wondering what may be happening behind the scenes at one of the industry’s oldest hosting platforms. Plus, we explore a new AI-powered tool designed to help podcast networks manage analytics, advertising campaigns, and operations, signaling how artificial intelligence is starting to move deeper into the business side of podcasting. Episode Highlights:  [03:42] Buzzsprout download benchmarks and what “top 1%” really means [07:43] Completion rate data and first-minute drop-off [10:30] Apple and Spotify top five charts [12:19] Podcasting events roundup [20:18] Business bite: side hustles for creators [27:36] News bites: Netflix viewing patterns and RØDE updates [32:35] Libsyn publishing friction and workflow concerns [36:07] Creator contingency planning [39:19] Jay Shetty leaving iHeart [42:31] Amazon shuts down the Wondery app [46:31] The podcast boom matures: fewer launches, more active shows [52:15] The tiny SEO tagline hack that boosts discovery Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header Buzzsprout Global Podcast Stats: https://www.buzzsprout.com/stats Bumper: https://www.wearebumper.com/blog Podcasting Made Simple Live: https://www.podmatch.com/event Empowered Podcasting Conference: https://empoweredpodcasting.com Podnews: www.podnews.net Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    1h 2m
  6. 470. Why Your Podcast Needs a Pre-Interview

    MAR 10

    470. Why Your Podcast Needs a Pre-Interview

    You finally book a guest you’re excited about. You press the record button, you’re off… and suddenly the answers drift into promotion, your guest goes on irrelevant tangents, and the episode never seems to find its legs. Many podcasters learn this lesson the hard way. Today, we talk about one of the simplest ways to protect the listener experience before the recording ever starts. Today, our conversation is about the role of the pre-interview and why it can make the difference between a scattered interview and a focused, engaging episode. We look at how a short conversation ahead of time can help shape the story, set expectations, and make sure both host and guest are ready to serve the audience. Then we take it a step further. Instead of just talking about the idea, we demonstrate it. We improvise a couple of mock pre-interviews so you can hear what the process actually sounds like and how it helps set up a stronger episode. Episode Highlights:  [02:46] Why pre-interviews matter [05:56] Vetting guests and protecting audience fit [15:20] Tech checks, links, and logistics before recording [17:35] The anti pre-interview perspective [26:38] Matt and Sid roleplay session [34:23] Setting interview guardrails [36:39] Improv scenario with audio issues [39:53] Handling unprepared or promotional guests [41:15] Debrief on coaching language and jargon [52:07] Name pronunciation and final prep Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header Riverside Connectivity Tester:  https://test-connectivity.riverside.fm Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    56 min
  7. 469. How ‘Swindled’ Turns Outrage Into Addictive Listening

    MAR 9

    469. How ‘Swindled’ Turns Outrage Into Addictive Listening

    Have you ever listened to a podcast and wondered why some episode openings pull you in right away while others take too long to get going? While Marc is out, Ralph Estep Jr. and Jonathan Howard lead us through an appreciation of Swindled and the storytelling choices that make it so effective. What starts as a close look at one show becomes a practical conversation about stronger intros, emotional hooks, and the storytelling devices that make listeners lean in. As the panel studies how the episode opens, the bigger lesson becomes clear: a strong beginning does more than introduce the topic. It sets the tone, creates emotion, sparks curiosity, and shapes the full listener journey. Along the way, this episode becomes a mini masterclass in how to open stronger, create emotional pull, and use storytelling devices with more intention. Episode Highlights:  [01:38] Why Swindled works as an obsession-worthy format [05:20] Breaking down the long prologue and pattern priming [07:24] The host’s deadpan delivery style [10:16] Audience reactions and emotional response [24:43] Setting up the receipts [29:48] Evidence-first storytelling and show notes depth [35:44] Why the episode structure works [41:57] Hooks, curiosity gaps, and belief flips Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header Swindled:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-formula-nestl%C3%A9-boycott-of-1977/id1308717668?i=1000428016046 Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    47 min
  8. 468. The Most Underrated Skill Every Podcaster Needs

    MAR 6

    468. The Most Underrated Skill Every Podcaster Needs

    What really makes a great podcaster stand out? It is not always the flashy stuff like gear, editing tricks, or knowing every tool. Today, we ask a bigger question: what is the most underrated skill a podcaster can have? The answers go deeper than the usual advice as we talk about vocal technique, active listening, and the kinds of skills that help you keep a conversation alive. Then the discussion shifts into another big question: which matters more, technical or creative editing skills? That opens the door to a thoughtful conversation about craft, instinct, and why strong podcasting often asks for both. Regardless if you are brand new to podcasting or have been doing this a while, we invite you to think beyond the basics and look at what really helps a show land with your audience. To wrap up the show, we close out the week with a quick nod to wins worth celebrating. Episode Highlights: [02:15] Preview of next week’s episodes [11:16] Framing the underrated skills conversation [13:56] Vocal technique and delivery awareness [16:09] Active listening and conversational presence [20:31] Asking better questions and building trust [24:36] Improvisation, flexibility, and punctual courtesy [34:34] Journey stories that motivate listeners [36:39] Creativity versus technical editing skills [40:52] Imposter syndrome, play, and continued learning [51:42] Community milestones and growth updates Links & Resources:  The Podcasting Morning Chat:  www.podpage.com/pmc Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Book A Free Call With Me:  https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycall Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠ Application To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=header Obsession Worthy Podcast Preview:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-formula-nestl%C3%A9-boycott-of-1977/id1308717668?i=1000428016046 Remember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community. Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠ Live on YouTube: ⁠http://podcastingmorningchat.com/joinus Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠  Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you! --- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠ Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:  ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

    59 min

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The only daily morning show for creators, by creators! Join 20-year podcast pro, Marc Ronick and an incredible team of podcasters as they dive into everything from starting a podcast, to audience growth, monetization, booking guests, using the latest AI tools and more. It's a 'morning show meets mastermind' for content creators! Tune in live weekdays at 7 AM EST on Clubhouse (yes, Clubhouse!) or catch up anytime right here or any podcast platform. The Podcasting Morning Chat - Connect. Grow. Create.

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