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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Elisabeth Wurm, a theater director and Enneagram teacher from St. Louis. Elisabeth discusses the overlap between improv and the Enneagram as they are both ego work. Each Enneagram type has a false personality, or ego, that will try to get in the way, and Elisabeth shares how improv can bring out the ego but also help work through that.
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Elisabeth Wrum:
Web: notjustenneacoach.com
IG: @survival_thrival

Seth "Creek" Creekmore: 
IG: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
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Seth Abram:
IG: @integratedenneagram
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lindsey Davis Marks:
IG: @lindseyfaithdm
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic

Aephoria Partners:
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Rev. Nhien Vuong, an Enneagram thought leader, spiritual mentor, and founder of Evolving Enneagram, a community-centered organization whose mission is to transform human ecosystems around the globe using a contemplative, wholeness-based approach to our individual and collective awakening. Rev. Nhien talks about the session she facilitated at the IEA Conference about sex and the Enneagram and hosted by the Enneagram & Sexuality Enneagroup. She shares what inspired her to participate in this topic and some of the main takeaways participants took away from the sessions.
Connect with us:
IEA2023.com

Rev. Nhien Vuong:
Web: evolvingenneagram.com
IG: @evolvingenneagram

Seth "Creek" Creekmore: 
IG: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B

Seth Abram:
IG: @integratedenneagram
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lindsey Davis Marks:
IG: @lindseyfaithdm
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic

Aephoria Partners:
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Stephanie J. Spencer, an executive coach and Enneagram guide. Stephanie talks about her story with the Enneagram and what inspired her to explore it through the heart rather than the mind. Using imagery, she shares how nature is grounding for her and can help us see ourselves more, which she discusses in depth in her book, “Out of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of Nature.”
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IEA2023.com
Stephanie J. Spencer:
Web: stephaniejspencer.com
IG: @stephanie_j_spencer
Book: Out of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of Nature

Seth "Creek" Creekmore: 
IG: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B

Seth Abram:
IG: @integratedenneagram
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lindsey Davis Marks:
IG: @lindseyfaithdm
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic

Aephoria Partners:
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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Deborah Egerton and Dr. Robert Holden, both also known as Dr. E and Dr. R respectively, about their friendship and the idea work they collaborate through the Enneagram. They also talk about coming to a place of understanding to bring us back to love. This can be accomplished through conversations and kind spaces so we can have an exchange of thoughts rather than a debate.
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IEA2023.com
Dr. Debra Egerton:
Web: deborahegerton.com
Book: Know Justice Know Peace: A Transformative Journey of Social Justice, Anti-Racism, and Healing through the Power of the Enneagram

Dr. Robert Holden
Web: robertholden.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore: 
IG: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B

Seth Abram:
IG: @integratedenneagram
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lindsey Davis Marks:
IG: @lindseyfaithdm
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic

Aephoria Partners:
Web: aephoriapartners.com
FB: Aephoria Partners Consulting

Here’s Part 2 of Revisiting Ego & Essence. In this episode we continue to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts. 
Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better. 
[2:00] How can we move forward with these terms despite the issues? 
[13:05] Ego & Essence as bypassing
[19:05] It’s about the process, not a destination
[24:00] Individuality, Mutuality, & Unity in relation to ego and essence
[31:35] Russ’ and Mario’s closing remarks for people using the enneagram
[35:40] The Fathoms Cohosts provide their initial reactions to the conversation
[45:05] How we’ll use the terms “ego” & “essence” moving forward
[60:00] Abram shares a story
[1:01:00] Linz hands out podcast awards to the guys
[1:05:30] Why we do this podcast
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The Enneagram Letters: A Poetic Exploration of Who You Thought You Had to Be
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Drew: @typetrailenneagramFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic
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Learn More About the International Enneagram Association
Web: https://www.internationalenneagram.org/
Events: https://ieaninepoints.com/
IG: @ieaenneagram

Today we have the pleasure of reposting an episode from our friends from the Fathoms podcast. The Fathoms crew sat down at the 2023 IEA conference to have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on the often used and often misunderstood concepts, Ego and Essence.
Joining the Fathoms crew is, Lee Fields, which always makes it better. 
[1:00] A quick recap of Fathoms season 4
[5:30] We talk about (and cringe a bit) our Season 1 episode on Ego & Essence
[12:30] Lindsey’s thoughts about the first episode as a listener
[14:15] Our thoughts behind ending the season with the topic of Ego & Essence
[18:50] Some tips listening to this conversation with Russ & Mario
[23:00] Our conversation with Russ & Mario begins
[25:15] What’s the conversation we need to have today about ego & essence? 
[27:45] Having beginner’s mind with ego & essence?
[28:50] Russ & Mario’s first meeting…and first impressions!
[30:45] Their common fascination with zombies
[32:50] What Russ and Mario admire about each other’s enneagram work
[35:45] Russ and Mario’s definition of “ego” and “essence”
[45:00] Examples of how they’ve changed their minds on ego and essence
[55:30] How Mario interprets Russ’ view of ego and essence
[1:00:00] Russ on “essence”
[1:08:00] Mario’s problems with the term “essence”
[1:11:45] Why are still using these words in these ways?
[1:18:45] Lindsey pushes back a bit
Stay tuned for Part 2 of our conversation with Russ & Mario next week! 
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Brought to you by:
Aephoria Partners:
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FB: Aephoria Partners Consulting
The Enneagram Letters: A Poetic Exploration of Who You Thought You Had to Be
—
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Drew: @typetrailenneagramFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Lee Fields:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammatic
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Learn More About the International Enneagram Association
Web: https://www.internationalenneagram.org/
Events: https://ieaninepoints.com/
IG: @ieaenneagram