11 episodes

At least 20% of New Zealanders are believed to be neurodivergent, but there is very little awareness, understanding and support for people with conditions such as ADHD, Autism and Dyslexia.

Sonia Gray has a neurodivergent daughter and is an ADHDer herself. In this 10-part series she’ll talk to dozens of experts and people with a lived-experience of neurodiversity to better understand how we can support and celebrate those whose brains are wired differently.

No Such Thing as Normal is brought to you by NZ Herald and Team Uniform, with support from NZ on Air and launches June 10th. New episodes are available every Saturday.

No Such Thing as Normal The New Zealand Herald

    • Health & Fitness

At least 20% of New Zealanders are believed to be neurodivergent, but there is very little awareness, understanding and support for people with conditions such as ADHD, Autism and Dyslexia.

Sonia Gray has a neurodivergent daughter and is an ADHDer herself. In this 10-part series she’ll talk to dozens of experts and people with a lived-experience of neurodiversity to better understand how we can support and celebrate those whose brains are wired differently.

No Such Thing as Normal is brought to you by NZ Herald and Team Uniform, with support from NZ on Air and launches June 10th. New episodes are available every Saturday.

    Episode 10: A Broader Definition of Normal

    Episode 10: A Broader Definition of Normal

    OCD is largely thought of as an aversion to germs and excessive hand washing, but it’s far more complicated than that. Obsessive thoughts can be around almost anything, and the compulsive behaviour that accompanies it can be debilitating for the individual and their whānau. 

    Up to 80 000 New Zealanders live with OCD but less than 10% have sought treatment. 

    In this final episode of the series, Sonia talks to 17-year-old Poppy, who gives a brave insight into her OCD. And we hear from some of the many people and groups who are driving change in the neurodiversity space. 

    Guests: 

    Poppy Armiger 

    Helena Armiger 

    Jock Matthews Rojolie Clinic 

    Professor David Coghill AADPA 

    Darrin Bull  

    Jo Charman Autism NZ 

    Tanya Blakey Autism NZ 

    Susan Haldane Mind Over Manner 

    Rich Rowley Brain Badge 

     

    Facebook: Kids Wired Differently 

    Instagram: nosuchthingasnormalpodcast 

     

    Resources OCD:  

    OCD NZ 

    Fixate Facebook Group 

     

    Other Resources: 

    ADHD NZ 

    Autism NZ 

    Dyslexia NZ 
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    • 38 min
    Episode 9: Rethinking Dyslexia

    Episode 9: Rethinking Dyslexia

    Dyslexia is still thought of a problem with reading and writing but that’s just a small part of the picture; those who are dyslexic experience the world in a completely different way.  

    This episode looks at some of the lesser-known dyslexic characteristics, the best ways to support dyslexic learners and we look at how ‘shame’ is such a huge issue for those who learn differently. 

    Documentary: Unlocking Potential 

    Guests:  

    Kimberley Crossman 

    Dr Ruth Gibbons www.ruth-gibbons.com 

    Vanessa Victor Remarkable Minds 

    Helen Armiger 

    Ruby Armiger 

    Elliot Jones Unlocking Potential 
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    • 35 min
    Episode 8: The Mechanics of a Meltdown

    Episode 8: The Mechanics of a Meltdown

    Neurodivergent people respond to the environment in unique ways. Occasionally, if their nervous systems are overwhelmed, the body responds by going into a meltdown.

    Sensory overload, communication challenges and sensitivity to demands can all contribute to this temporary loss of control of behaviour. We’re often quick to judge the behaviour we’re seeing, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. 

    In this episode Sonia talks to a dad who has radically changed his parenting style to support his ADHD/Autistic children.  And we hear from neurodivergent people about what causes a meltdown and what the experience feels like for them. 

    Guests:  

    Rob Newlove Parenting Unique Children 

    Sophie Newlove 

    Matt Frost 

    Nick Marsh 

    Lucy Charles Paediatric OT 

    Dani 

    Sharyn Gousmett  Willow Corner 
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    • 30 min
    Episode 7: How ADHD hides in women and girls

    Episode 7: How ADHD hides in women and girls

    Although we think of ADHD as being a mostly male condition, it is just as prevalent in females. However, the diagnosis rates tell a different story - females are less than half as likely to be identified as having this neurological condition. Women tend to be better at suppressing and internalising their emotions.  

    But things like Rejection Sensitivity Disorder, intolerance to boredom, poor executive function and time blindness are very real, and they can significantly impact an individual’s quality of life.  

    In this episode, we look at ways we can work with the ADHD brain - rather than against it - by identifying the many strengths of ADHD. And Sonia chats to broadcaster Hayley Holt about her experience as a late-diagnosed ADHDer.  

    Guests: Dr. Sarah Watson Totally Psyched  

    Hayley Holt David Coghill AADPA Rich Rowley Brain Badge Alex Campbell  

    Resources: ADHD NZ 
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    • 33 min
    Episode 6: Education (Part 2)

    Episode 6: Education (Part 2)

    In this episode we continue looking at whether our education system is meeting the needs of neurodivergent children. We ask: What are the supports and accommodations available? Do you need an official diagnosis of dyslexia to qualify for a reader/writer? And why are stand downs and exclusions so common for kids who are autistic or ADHD? 

    Facebook: Kids Wired Differently 

    Guests:  

    Rachel King and Theo 

    Pippa Biggs Include Me - Specialist Education Services 

    Tom Little Pukare Cards 

    Anna Coleman 

    Helen McDonald 
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    • 32 min
    Episode 5: Education (Part 1)

    Episode 5: Education (Part 1)

    In Aotearoa, we pride ourselves on our inclusive education system.  But is that really the experience for kids who are Autistic, ADHD, Dyslexic or Gifted? Over two episodes we ask: Is our education system really meeting the needs of neurodivergent children, their families and the teachers that support them?  

    Sonia talks to students, parents and specialist teachers about their experiences in the education system, and what they think works best for children who learn differently. 

    Facebook:  Kids Wired Differently 

    Guests: 

    Rich Rowley  brainbadge.org 

    Maximiliano Pierret Massey University 

    Helen McDonald Include Me - Specialist Education Services 

    Sarah Hinchey sarah.hinchey@pg.canterbury.ac.nz 

    Kimi Cotter 

    Sarah Hinchey is a PhD candidate at Canterbury University. She is doing a research study on reading comprehension and multisensory integration in autistic children. Sarah is currently recruiting participants aged 8-12 years, autistic and neurotypical, in the Canterbury region and Auckland. 

    The method involves a wireless EEG system that measures the electrical activity in the brain. EEG is a harmless and objective method which can provide crucial information on how these amazing brains process reading material. This will enable the development of a strengths-based reading support strategy specific for autistic learners. 

    If you are interested in taking part you can email Sarah at sarah.hinchey@pg.canterbury.ac.nz. 

    More information can be found at this FB page: UCSpeechLab 
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    • 24 min

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