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What’s next for your career and creative projects? Pivot with Jenny Blake launched in 2015 to help us better embrace fear, insecurity, imperfection, and intuition as the superpowers they are while pivoting. Join Jenny Blake, award-winning author of Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One, Life After College, and Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business, for intimate conversations with authors and friends on finding opportunities in unexpected places through practical tips and tools. Jenny’s motto? If change is the only constant, let’s get better at it. Subscribe now so you don’t miss an episode (released every Sunday) at pod.link/pivotmethod, view show notes at http://PivotMethod.com/podcast, and learn more about Jenny’s private community at http://itsfreetime.com/bff ❤️ If you're looking Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, visit https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot. Check out Jenny's other award-winning podcast Free Time for Heart-Based Business owners at pod.link/freetime.

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What’s next for your career and creative projects? Pivot with Jenny Blake launched in 2015 to help us better embrace fear, insecurity, imperfection, and intuition as the superpowers they are while pivoting. Join Jenny Blake, award-winning author of Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One, Life After College, and Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business, for intimate conversations with authors and friends on finding opportunities in unexpected places through practical tips and tools. Jenny’s motto? If change is the only constant, let’s get better at it. Subscribe now so you don’t miss an episode (released every Sunday) at pod.link/pivotmethod, view show notes at http://PivotMethod.com/podcast, and learn more about Jenny’s private community at http://itsfreetime.com/bff ❤️ If you're looking Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, visit https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot. Check out Jenny's other award-winning podcast Free Time for Heart-Based Business owners at pod.link/freetime.

    🌈 Taking a Quiet Sabbatical and Pausing the Podcasts — For Now . . .

    🌈 Taking a Quiet Sabbatical and Pausing the Podcasts — For Now . . .

    As I round the corner into this ninth year of podcasting and after over 700 episodes, today I’m announcing a pause for both shows.
    Listen in to hear what factors helped me reach this decision across time, money, energy, depressing industry articles, the pace of both shows’ growth, and mix of additional business factors that make this an important moment to pause and regroup. You might also appreciate the even deeper dive with my longtime friend (and first coach) Adrian Klaphaak in Pivot episode 360: 📦 Unpacking a Big Business Decision and Dissolving Related Doubts.
    While I will be sad not to bring fresh episodes to your earbuds every week, I truly want to say thank you so much for being here. This only represents a small fraction of listeners, but I was genuinely touched receiving the Spotify Wrapped for Podcasters stats at the end of 2023, after I knew I would be pausing once all the episodes “in the can” went live.


    Among Pivot listeners: for 681 this show is in your top ten on Spotify, for 373 it’s in your top five, and for 65 of you, this is your number one show (again, at least in Spotify’s podcast player)!


    Among Free Time listeners: for 423 of you this show is in your top ten on Spotify, for 247 it’s in the top five, and for 57 it is your number one show in Spotify—the highest honor!! I was shocked to see even one, truly, with so much other incredible audio content out there.


    There’s one thing I know for sure: I will miss you during this break 🥹

    🌟 ;TLDR/L (Too Long Didn’t Listen) Top Takeaways:



    In addition to pausing my private community, I am pausing both podcasts for a bit (duration TBD) so I can clear financial and energetic space to listen to what my broader business wants to become.

    🎧 Stay subscribed to both shows: Pivot with Jenny Blake and Free Time with Jenny Blake so that you still get episodes when I release them, even if a bit more sporadically (for now); I may switch to seasons if/when I resume


    📧 Subscribe to any/all of my three Substacks if you’re not already: I hope to experiment with live tapings with interesting friends and guests, ones that are for paying subscribers where we can go into even more nitty gritty detail behind-the-scenes.


    📝 Permission

    Pause and regroup on any of your creative projects so you can create space to hear what’s next.

    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    Rolling in D🤦🏻‍♀️h: 🏆 Time to Put the Trophies Away


    Do What You Love and the Money Will Follow . . . IF

    Rebuilding from Rubble

    👟 A Strange and Wonderful Morning: Walking Photo Essay


    Dear 2024: A Letter and From 2024: A Reply



    What Works: Making the Content Math Work



    Edison Research: Podcasting’s Big Hits and Long Tail



    Adam Davidson: The Rise and Fall of Podcasting



    The Daily Beast: Malcolm Gladwell’s Media Empire is Being Torn Apart



    Podcast Production: One Stone Creative



    ListenNotes: Pivot, Free Time



    📚 Books Mentioned

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    SPARKED: Jenny in Conversation with Jonathan Fields (Spotify Playlist)


    BFF Bonus: Upcoming Quiet Sabbatical + Important Membership Updates



    Pivot: 329: Five Types of People-Pleasers from The Joy of Saying No with Natalie Lue


    342: “Whatever Comes Through Me Comes For Me First,” With Nicole Antoinette

    360: 📦 Unpacking a Big Business Decision and Dissolving Related Doubts with Adrian Klaphaak


    Free Time: 042: How I Run My Business Without Social Media (Pivot Replay)


    203: 🎢 Riding the Emotional Rollercoaster of Launching with Natalie Lue

    250: Do what you love and the money will follow . . . IF you meet at least 3 of these 20 criteria

    🦧 What to Do When You Lose Your Biggest Client, Part One and Part Two



    📝 Check out full show notes at http://pivotmethod.com/363
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    • 20 min
    Setting Creative Intentions Instead of Expectations with James McCrae

    Setting Creative Intentions Instead of Expectations with James McCrae

    “Expectations are the enemy to the creative process. Sometimes you have to let go of the known to see the unknown.”
    Today I’m speaking with James McCrae, an author, poet, and meme artist based in Austin, Texas. He is the founder of 🌻 Sunflower Club, a global school and community dedicated to conscious creativity.
    As a creative strategist, he has worked with top brands and startups. James is the author of Sh#t Your Ego Says and How to Laugh in Ironic Amusement During Your Existential Crisis, and today we’re talking about his new book, The Art of You: The Essential Guidebook for Reclaiming Your Creativity.

    🌟 3 Key Takeaways



    Life falling apart is an opportunity to surrender: we all have ideas of where we want to go and where we want to be, but sometimes our higher self has other plans that are better than the ones we can see.


    Set intentions, not expectations: It’s about orienting your consciousness in a certain direction. It’s about knowing your purpose and how you want to show up so that you aren’t just reacting to the external world. Expectations are the enemy to the creative process.


    Look for your golden thread of teachers: Each of your teachers was taught by another teacher that goes back through time.


    ✅ Try This Next: Find Your Creative Lineage

    Excerpted from The Art of You:


    Think back to the people who were influential on your creative journey. They could be a novelist, a musician, a poet, an artist, a spiritual guide, a teacher, or even a friend.


    Consider different types of guides. Who first inspired you to be creative? Who taught you the most about style and technique? Who helped to expand your cultural and artistic horizons? Who continues to push you to be better? Make a list of five to ten creative guides.


    Is there a common thread, either stylistically or philosophically, that ties them together?


    Now revisit their work with fresh eyes. Read their books. Listen to their music. Search YouTube and watch any talks or interviews available. See what you notice. What do you like? What don't you like?


    Write down what you learned from each guide in a few sentences each.


    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    James on the web, IG, Twitter, LinkedIn



    Website: Know Your Meme



    Video: Interview with Danny Miranda—Creatives are Explorers



    📚 Books Mentioned


    The Art of You: The Essential Guidebook for Reclaiming Your Creativity by James McCrae

    Sh#t Your Ego Says

    How to Laugh in Ironic Amusement During Your Existential Crisis


    The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins


    The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    James’ show: 🌻 Sunflower Club



    Spotify Playlists: Pivot x Career Pathfinder podcast episodes with Adrian Klaphaak

    SPARKED with Jonathan Fields x Jenny Blake


    Pivot: 85: Musician Trevor Hall on Karma, Healing, Soul Maps From the Stars + Fruitful Darkness Song Premiere


    342: “Whatever Comes Through Me Comes for Me First,” with Nicole Antoinette


    Free Time: 223: The Confidence Trap: Why You Don’t Need It to Do Big Things


    198: Book Club ✨ OUTRAGEOUS OPENNESS: Letting the Divine Take the Lead

    003: Liberate Your Life Force with Christine Arylo


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    • 33 min
    On Decision Engineering and Evaluating Quality instead of Outcomes with Michelle Florendo

    On Decision Engineering and Evaluating Quality instead of Outcomes with Michelle Florendo

    Good decision-making is not about omniscience or clairvoyance—it's more about resilience, according to today’s guest, decision engineer Michelle Florendo. “Decision-making is harder than ever before, and it's not your fault,” Michelle says. “People feel like they ‘should just know’ how to decide.”
    More About Michelle: Michelle Florendo is a decision engineer and executive coach who is passionate about teaching people how to make decisions with less stress and more clarity, from the small, consistent microdecisions over time that governs how you show up as a leader to the big macrodecisions you make about what direction to take next in business or life. Over the past decade, she has shown hundreds of driven professionals how to use the principles of decision science to grow their impact and fulfillment. She served on the inaugural coaching team for Seth Godin's altMBA, was a founding member of the Forbes Coaches Council, and helps train new coaches as a Faculty Coach at Berkeley Executive Coaching Institute. Michelle helped redesign the decision-making module in Stanford's famous Designing Your Life course and has taught courses on decision making for Stanford Continuing Studies, and hosts the podcast Ask a Decision Engineer.

    🌟 4 Key Takeaways



    Saying no to something “good” — What makes it good? How is it delivering the things you want? It might look good on paper to your peers or family or to society, but does it still work for you?


    Every decision has three components: objectives (what is it you care about?), options (what are you choosing among), and information (about how those options might play out).


    Intuition is the sum of our internal wisdom: It’s not separate; rather, it’s a quick synthesis of our inputs and rational processes. If you can’t explain a decision, remind yourself that “I just haven’t built the bridge . . . yet.”


    ✅ Try This Next

    Tune into multiple sources of data: head+heart+body. Pro-con lists tend to mostly activate rational thinking. As an alternative, try an attractive-concerning table. Draw a 2x2 with a column for each option. What is attractive about each option? What is concerning? Look for themes that bubble up.

    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    Michelle on the web, IG, Twitter, LinkedIn



    Articles: Stanford Decision Engineer Shares 5 Mistakes People Make When Facing Hard Choices, DEAR SUGAR: The Ghost Ship That Didn’t Carry Us


    15 Ways To Help Coaching Clients View Themselves Objectively


    Video: How to make a decision



    People: Stanford Professor Ronald Howard



    Stanford’s Life Design Lab



    Template: Michelle’s Decision Inventory Exercise



    📚 Books Mentioned


    Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans


    Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    Michelle’s Ask a Decision Engineer



    My First Million: The Decision Register, Newsletter Woes and An Audience of One



    Pivot: 322: Tips for Making Tough Decisions — Solo Spotlight with Sarah Young


    360: 📦 Unpacking a Big Business Decision and Dissolving Related Doubts with Adrian Klaphaak


    Free Time: 154: The Hard No ❌


    138: ⛵️ Stop Sailing the Sea of Shiny Shoulds


    📝 Check out full show notes at http://pivotmethod.com/361
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    • 34 min
    📦 Unpacking a Big Business Decision and Dissolving Related Doubts with Adrian Klaphaak

    📦 Unpacking a Big Business Decision and Dissolving Related Doubts with Adrian Klaphaak

    What happens when you make a big decision but still have lingering doubt, fear, and even despair? How do you know when a “download” from the universe is worth following, and what does test-driving a decision look like? What happens on the other side or when a pivot is taking far longer than planned?
    We’re unpacking all these topics in today’s twelfth and final (for now) conversation for the Pivot x Career Pathfinder series with Adrian Klaphaak.
    More About Adrian: Adrian Klaphaak is a coach, purpose guide, entrepreneur, and founder of A Path That Fits Career and Life Coaching. His coaching approach is holistic—a constant balance between getting results and a quest for meaning and fulfillment. He describes himself as “a deep seeker with a constant itch to make things happen.”

    ✅ Try This Next
    Examine your own relationship to rest and taking extended breaks. Ask yourself: What do I really need? How am I really doing? Where am I in the cycle of death, birth, creation, and rest?

    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    Adrian on the web, Yelp, Facebook, LinkedIn



    Course: Career Pathfinder (promo code PIVOT)


    Video: Finding Your Calling



    Substack: Rolling in D🤦🏻‍♀️h



    Articles: 👟 A Strange and Wonderful Morning: Walking Photo Essay


    🏆 Time to Put the Trophies Away


    Tools: Substack



    Song: You Can’t Rush Your Healing by Trevor Hall


    📚 Books Mentioned


    The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks


    The Examined Life by Stephen Grosz

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    Spotify Playlists: Pivot x Career Pathfinder podcast episodes with Adrian Klaphaak

    SPARKED with Jonathan Fields x Jenny Blake


    Pivot: 329: Five Types of People-Pleasers from The Joy of Saying No with Natalie Lue


    85: Musician Trevor Hall on Karma, Healing, Soul Maps From the Stars + Fruitful Darkness Song Premiere

    342: “Whatever Comes Through Me Comes for Me First,” with Nicole Antoinette


    Free Time: 223: The Confidence Trap: Why You Don’t Need It to Do Big Things


    198: Book Club ✨ OUTRAGEOUS OPENNESS: Letting the Divine Take the Lead by Tosha Silver

    193: Sabbatical Planning with DJ DiDonna

    252: Taking an Accidental Sabbatical with Mel Dizon

    241: Finding Freedom and Financial Reciprocity through a Paid Newsletter with Nic Antoinette


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    • 40 min
    “You can’t give what you don’t have” — Expecting Greatness While Practicing Acceptance with Nataly Kogan

    “You can’t give what you don’t have” — Expecting Greatness While Practicing Acceptance with Nataly Kogan

    “You can’t give what you don’t have.” That’s just one of the powerful lessons that Nataly Kogan learned the hard way seven years ago, after suffering a debilitating phase of burnout. As a former refugee from the former Soviet Union, she began her American journey in the projects and on welfare, then going on to build an impressive career as a finance and tech executive and serial entrepreneur over the next 25 years. Until she crashed at thirty-eight years old and needed to find a new way of moving forward.
    Today we’re talking about how she got through that tough burnout period, the ways she practices putting her full self into the world, why it’s never too late to start something new, and how to drop the self-care guilt when filling your own energy reserves.
    More About Nataly: Nataly Kogan, a leading expert on emotional fitness and leadership, is a dynamic entrepreneur, best-selling author, and sought-after international keynote speaker. Despite starting from challenging circumstances, Nataly achieved remarkable success in her career, reaching top positions at McKinsey, Microsoft, a venture capital fund, and founding/executing five startups and tech companies.
    Her influential books, including HAPPIER NOW, GRATITUDE DAILY, THE AWESOME HUMAN PROJECT, THE AWESOME HUMAN JOURNAL, reflect her mission to help others thrive. Nataly hosts The Awesome Human Podcast, recognized as a transformative "best-self hour."

    🌟 3 Key Takeaways



    You can either spend energy talking about why you are where you are, or spend that energy taking steps toward where you want to go.


    Don’t try to be anything you’re not. Embody the fullness of who you are, boldly and openly. Part of the reason, Nataly says, is that “We don’t expect enough of ourselves; we are capable of so much. In some ways we don’t expect enough greatness from ourselves.”


    You can’t give what you don’t have. A holon is something that is both a whole in itself (like a bicycle wheel) and part of another whole (the bicycle; without the wheels, it can’t function). Get rid of the self-care guilt by recognizing the gifts that self-care gives you.


    ✅ Try This Next

    “Don’t let the leftovers of yesterday spoil the freshness of today.” Fill-in this sentence: I am an awesome human because: ______________.

    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    Nataly on the web, IG, Twitter, LinkedIn



    Articles: Entrepreneur Nataly Kogan Discovered That Well-Being Is Key to Success


    6 Science-Backed Ways to Improve Your Well-Being at Work

    Malcolm Gladwell's O, MG newsletter on being instrumentally difficult versus malignantly difficult when referencing this much discussed and debated New Yorker profile of Succession actor Jeremy Strong.


    Videos: TEDxBoston—Sharer of Joy: Nataly Kogan, Author Nataly Kogan Shares No. 1 Tip To Live A Happier Life



    Tools: Procreate for iPad


    📚 Books Mentioned

    The Awesome Human Journal: A Tool Kit for the Tough Days, the Good Days, and All the Days in Between

    The Awesome Human Project: Break Free from Daily Burnout, Struggle Less, and Thrive More in Work and Life

    Happier Now: How to Stop Chasing Perfection and Embrace Everyday Moments (Even the Difficult Ones)

    Gratitude Daily: 21 Days to More Joy and Less Stress

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    Nataly’s The Awesome Human Podcast



    Pivot: 282: The Honor Roll Hangover with Melody Wilding



    Pivot x Career Pathfinder Series with Adrian (Spotify playlist)

    329: Five Types of People-Pleasers from The Joy of Saying No with Natalie Lue


    Free Time: 191: Structuring Free Time as a Single Parent while Grieving and Rebuilding with Karen Allen



    📝 Check out full show notes at http://pivotmethod.com/359
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    • 52 min
    Crossing the Cringe Chasm when Taking Career and Creative Risks with Henna Pryor

    Crossing the Cringe Chasm when Taking Career and Creative Risks with Henna Pryor

    Bravery requires being off balance. You will only find the courage to “cross the cringe chasm” by remembering that the risk of losing your identity is greater than the risk of losing approval.
    As today’s guest Henna Pryor writes in her wonderful debut book, Good Awkward:
    “The idea of releasing this book into the world without knowing how you’ll receive it makes me cringe. But it makes me cringe even more to imagine walking through life as a person who doesn’t write and release the book that matters so much to her because she’s worried how it will land. Either one is a risk.”
    The Approval Paradox that we all confront is that we are social, communal creatures; for most of us, what other people think of us does matter. And yet, we can’t allow others’ approval to outweigh whether we personally improve. Cheers to the real reel, and I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did! Awkward bits and all :)
    More About Henna: Henna Pryor, PCC is a highly sought after Workplace Performance Expert and an award-winning keynote speaker, author, and executive coach. Her clients call her their “secret weapon for impossible change,” an honor she wears proudly. She’s known for her science-backed approach to improving the performance, habits, and actions of hungry high achievers – in her fun, no-nonsense, no-jargon way – to move them from their first level of success to their next one. Today we’re talking about her bestselling book, Good Awkward: How to Embrace the Embarrassing and Celebrate the Cringe to Become The Bravest You, which received the rare Kirkus Star for excellence in writing.

    🌟 3 Key Takeaways



    Awkwardness is a social emotion (we don’t normally feel it by ourselves), and it’s one of discomfort: there is a momentary gap between our internal identity (the person we want to be), and the person people see on display. Awkwardness lives in uncertainty.


    Crossing the Cringe Chasm: Remember ICC—improvement comes after cringe. In these moments, if your self-improvement and even self-identity is more important to you than other people’s approval, it’s time to jump.


    There are two main kinds of stories we tell about ourselves: “All of our stories tend to focus on standout events, both good and bad, because those are the experiences that shape us, that our brain uses to make sense of our lives. People who are driven to contribute to society, embrace friction, and take braver risks are more likely to tell redemption stories about their lives—transitioning from a bad situation or downturn to good end result or upturn. The opposite of a redemption story is a contamination story, interpreting the situation as going from good to bad.”


    🔗 Resources Mentioned



    Henna on the web, IG, Twitter, LinkedIn



    Take the Self-Consciousness Scale: http://pryoritygroup.com/goodawkward



    Articles: HuffPo—How To Embrace Your Inner Cringe And Make Awkwardness an Advantage



    Research Studies: The Pratfall Effect, The Spotlight Effect



    Rolling in D🤦🏻‍♀️h: The Business Yips and 51/49



    Henna’s TEDx Talks: Why awkwardness is your secret weapon for risk-taking at work and The new way to brag in the modern world - and feel good doing it



    Video: Vanessa Van Edwards interviewing Guy Raz—Successful People Can Be Awkward



    📚 Books Mentioned

    Good Awkward: How to Embrace the Embarrassing and Celebrate the Cringe to Become The Bravest You

    Free Time: Lose the Busywork, Love Your Business

    Pivot: The Only Move That Matters Is Your Next One

    Life After College


    🎧 Related Episodes


    Pivot: 329: Five Types of People-Pleasers from The Joy of Saying No with Natalie Lue


    282: The Honor Roll Hangover with Melody Wilding


    056: Perfection Detox with Petra Kolber and 112: Whose Voice is in Your Head?


    275: Cues—On Charisma with Vanessa Van Edwards


    Free Time: 031: Eleventh-Hour Gremlins


    246: The Unsustainability of Inauthenticity with Erin Weed


    📝 Check out

    • 33 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
188 Ratings

188 Ratings

JayBrain2 ,

Great Food For Thought On Any of Life’s Pivots!

The most recent episode, #343, has Jenny answering questions to celebrate a milestone birthday today. I hope this 5-star review and an encouragement that you should listen and subscribe is a fitting present! (Happy Birthday! 🥳)

I first encountered Jenny on LinkedIn Learning as she had just the course I was looking for: “Figuring Out Your Next Move” on how to make a career pivot.

Her “Pivot Method” is helpful in my continuing discernment of “What’s next?” This podcast, is a companion to the Pivot method & book, is filled with top-notch guests and great practical tips on solo episodes that provide rich and digestible food for thought each week. Her tone is one of accompaniment - Jenny is right in the thick of figuring out the twists and turns of her career like you & I. She provides great thought leadership and a forum for other thinkers to talk and offer, hopefully, the next piece of the puzzle in our search.

I appreciate the Sunday drop for new episodes because it is almost like my weekly pep talk to tackle the work ahead while also keeping my eyes on what’s ahead.

This is one of many resources Jenny has available for free (if you’re on a tight budget like me) and ways that you can work with her and her team to make the next move confidently.

Give Pivot a listen and I hope you make it part of your weekly routine!

Scented Designs ,

Down-to-earth and genuine

Down-to-earth, genuine conversations hosted by Jenny with all sorts of people who have pivoted in different ways. An engaging podcast that provides a variety of perspectives, which I’m really enjoying.

LizNT ,

So many great conversations!

I especially love Jenny's converations with Adrian - these feel so authentic & full of insights that I can apply to my own experience. They're the perfect blend of concepts and actionable steps that feel genuine. Thank you Jenny!

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