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In this conversation, Katelyn and her husband Brock discuss how mental health affects marriage and how therapy has transformed their relationship. They share their journey from meeting in college to getting married and facing a breaking point in their marriage. They emphasize the importance of pre-marital counseling and the need for more thorough and realistic guidance. They also discuss the individual growth they experienced through therapy, including self-awareness, understanding issues, and learning healthy coping strategies. They highlight the significance of empathy, compassion, and self-compassion in their marriage. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of mental health support and resources.



(00:00) The Journey: From Meeting to Marriage

(05:04) Individual Growth through Therapy

(11:29) Learning and Understanding

(13:54) The Impact of Therapy on Marriage

(16:28) How to Cope Better

(25:39) Experiencing the Growth

(32:11) The Power of Group Therapy

(33:34) Best Marriage Check-Ins

(35:58) Impact of MEPS

(39:48) Learning Compromise

(44:36) Pop Culture: Real Housewives of Potomac

(52:27) Therapy Saving Our Marriage


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In this episode, Kelsey and Katelyn discuss the dutiful stance, which includes types one, two, and six. They explain that these types seek to get their needs met by serving others and being loyal. They also discuss the struggles and benefits of this stance, such as people-pleasing and overextending. The hosts emphasize the importance of identifying and communicating one's own needs, setting boundaries, and exploring the underlying motivations behind dutiful behavior. They also mention the significance of self-reflection and seeking therapy or coaching to support personal growth.



Takeaways


The dutiful stance includes types one, two, and six, who seek to get their needs met by serving others and being loyal.
Struggles of this stance include people-pleasing, overextending, and a tendency to neglect one's own needs.
Tips for this stance include identifying and communicating one's own needs, setting boundaries, exploring underlying motivations, and seeking therapy or coaching for support.
The hosts highlight the importance of self-reflection and self-awareness in order to foster personal growth and balance in relationships.


Chapters



(00:00) Introduction to the dutiful stance

(01:36) Characteristics of the dutiful stance

(04:27) Type One: The Perfectionist

(06:49) Type Two: The Helper

(12:13) Type Six: The Loyalist

(16:29) Benefits of the dutiful stance

(29:23) Tips and takeaways

(42:12) Pop culture reference: Vanderpump Rules

(43:54) Closing remarks





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In this conversation, Katelyn and Kelsey discuss the assertive or aggressive stance in the Enneagram and those who tend to face confrontation head on. They highlight the characteristics of these types, such as being high-energy, optimistic, and willing to confront issues. The benefits of this stance include getting things done and being achievers. However, when these types are in overdrive, they can become impulsive, react to stress by asserting dominance, and struggle with controlling things. They also tend to avoid processing difficult emotions and may have a fear of vulnerability. The conversation emphasizes the importance of finding balance and recognizing that worth and identity are not solely based on achievements or happiness. In this conversation, the sisters discuss the Enneagram types 3, 7, and 8. They explore the characteristics, motivations, and behaviors of these types, as well as their impact on relationships. Katelyn shares the importance of self-regulation and understanding the underlying reasons for reactive behaviors. They provide practical tips for growth and offer examples from Bravo reality shows ("Real Housewives of New Jersey/ Potomac" and "Married to Medicine") to illustrate these types.



Takeaways




It is important to find balance and recognize that worth and identity are not solely based on achievements or happiness. The Enneagram types 3, 7, and 8 have distinct characteristics and motivations.
Self-regulation is crucial for these types to avoid reactive and aggressive behaviors.
Understanding the underlying reasons for reactive behaviors can help individuals make healthier choices.
Practical tips for growth include pausing before reacting, finding healthy outlets for energy (often high exertion physical exercise), and practicing mindfulness, pilates or yoga.
Examples from pop culture, such as Teresa Guidice from "Real Housewives of New Jersey" and Dr. Jackie from "Married to Medicine," illustrate both unhealthy and healthy expressions of these types.



Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to the Assertive/Aggressive Stance

(02:05) Characteristics of the Assertive/Aggressive Stance

(06:44) Difficulty Processing Emotions

(09:07) The Importance of Letting Go of Control

(11:32) Parenting and Emotional Regulation

(13:03) Reframing Negative Situations

(16:16) The Identity Struggle of Threes

(22:01) The Importance of Commitment for Sevens

(24:28) Processing Difficult Emotions for Sevens

(29:40) The Importance of Body Language

(30:35) Understanding the Motivations Behind the Eight Type

(31:34) Balancing Assertiveness and Consideration

(32:34) The Impact of Aggressive Behavior on Relationships

(33:32) Growth Tips for Types Three, Seven, and Eight

(34:49) Practical Tips for Regulation and Self-Awareness

(37:12) Recognizing the Positive Aspects of Types Three, Seven, and Eight

(40:02) Examples of Unhealthy Behavior in Pop Culture: BRAVO

(42:21) Positive Examples in Pop Culture: Dr. Jackie and Gertie

(48:07) Finding Balance and Seeking Therapy or Coaching

(49:58) Embracing the Gift of Assertiveness




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In this conversation, Kelsey and Katelyn discuss the withdrawing stance in the Enneagram, focusing on types 4, 5, and 9. They pose the question - does avoiding conflict really lead to peace?



Also, how can ice cubes help?

They explain that these types withdraw in order to meet their needs or cope with conflict. However, withdrawing does not always bring peace or fulfill their needs. It is important for these types to communicate their needs and seek connection with others. They emphasize the importance of communication, expressing emotions, and setting boundaries. They also discuss the example of Kenneth from the show "Love is Blind," who exhibited a common withdrawing behavior. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and intentional effort in addressing conflict and finding peace.



Takeaways


The withdrawing stance in the Enneagram includes types 4, 5, and 9.


Withdrawal can be a way for these types to find comfort and safety, but it is important to communicate and set expectations with others.
Expressing emotions and communicating what is happening in the moment can help navigate conflict and avoid misunderstandings.
Finding healthy ways to withdraw, such as taking time alone or engaging in physical activities, can be beneficial for these types. Reset the nervous system!



Chapters



(00:00) Introduction: Withdrawing and Avoiding During Conflict

(01:57) The Withdrawing Stance: Fours, Fives, and Nines

(04:45) The Impact of Withdrawing on Relationships

(05:42) Ruminating on the Past

(06:59) The Origins of Withdrawing as a Coping Mechanism

(07:47 )Triggers and Instincts in Withdrawing

(08:43) The Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Fawn Responses

(10:14) Attachment Styles and Withdrawing

(12:16) The Withdrawing Stance: Fours

(13:42) Tips for Fours in Overcoming Withdrawing

(15:12) The Withdrawing Stance: Fives

(16:36) Tips for Fives in Overcoming Withdrawing

(19:38) The Facade of Inner Peace in Nines

(20:30) The Need for Trust in Nines

(21:40) The Illusion of Peace in Nines

(22:44) Questioning the Effectiveness of Withdrawing

(24:06) Does Withdrawing Lead to Peace?

(26:30) The Impact of Withdrawing and Avoidance

(27:36) The Connection Between Avoidance and Anxiety

(28:48) Building Trustworthy Relationships

(29:48) Determining the Worth of a Relationship

(30:38) Setting Boundaries and Communicating Needs

(32:38) Examples of Withdrawal in Different Types of Relationships

(33:45) Regulation Techniques for Dealing with Withdrawal

(36:47) Self-Talk and External Processing

(38:56) Staying Present and Communicating in Conflict

(42:46) Examples of Withdrawal in Pop Culture

(45:29) Lessons from Love is Blind

(48:07) Conclusion and Final Tips


To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠.

For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠.

For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠.

For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.


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(00:00) Introduction: Importance of Expectations in Friendships
(01:23) The Analogy of Watching the Same Movie
(03:16) Fear of Addressing Expectations
(04:43) Challenges in Different Seasons of Life
(05:11) Balancing Friendships as a New Mom
(06:08) Balancing Friendships as a Type Five
(08:40) Avoidance of Conflict in Friendships
(09:48) Unspoken Expectations and Miscommunication
(11:08) Clarity Fuels Kindness and Connection
(12:39) Navigating Friendships as Different Enneagram Types
(14:13) Friendships Fizzling Out
(18:52) Knowing the Worth of Friendships
(20:03) Navigating Friendship Expectations in Different Seasons of Life
(21:33) Internalizing Thoughts and Feelings about Friendship
(26:46) The Impact of Life Transitions on Friendships
(28:00) The Influence of Past Experiences on Friendships
(30:11) Growing and Cultivating Healthy Friendships
(33:37) Taking Risks and Communicating Expectations
(35:20) The Importance of Boundaries in Friendships
(38:00) Real Housewives and Friendship Dynamics
(43:45) The Impact of Personal Challenges on Friendships
(48:29) Navigating Friendships During Difficult Times
(51:23) Balancing Support and Self-Care in Friendships

To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to ⁠https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com⁠.


For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to ⁠https://www.Freeandwellcc.com⁠.


For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc⁠.


For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/⁠.

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In our inaugeral episode, Kelsey gives a brief overview on each of the nine Enneagram types. Katelyn shares potential mental health issues each type may be prone to.


(00:00) Overview of the Enneagram

(02:22) Growth and Stress Points

(03:54) Core Motivations

(05:40) Wings and Stress Paths

(08:43) Personal Types

(09:43) Exploring the Nine Types

(10:21) Disclaimer

(10:49) Type One: The Moral Perfectionist

(14:41) Type Two: The Supportive Advisor

(18:29) Type Three: The Successful Achiever

(21:40) Type Four: The Romantic

(25:16) Type Five: The Investigative Thinker

(28:57) Type Six: The Loyal Guardian

(33:27) Type Seven: The Entertainer

(37:22) Type Eight: The Protective Challenger

(42:00) Type Nine: The Peaceful Mediator


To book an Enneagram Coaching session with Kelsey, go to https://www.enneagramwithkelsey.com.


For CA based listeners to book an intro therapy session with Katelyn, go to https://www.Freeandwellcc.com.


For up to date resources from Katelyn, you can follow her instagram at https://www.Instagram.com/freeandwellcc.


For up to date resources from Kelsey, you can follow her instagram at https://www.instagram.com/enneagramwithkelsey/.




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