Running--State of the Sport

Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch
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  • RUNNING
  • UPDATED SEMIWEEKLY
Running--State of the Sport

The podcast where we talk to the smartest, most informed, most influential, and sometimes fastest runners on the planet.

  1. JUN 25

    Rich Kenah, Atlanta Track Club

    In our new podcast, Rich Kenah, CEO of the Atlanta Track Club, discusses the upcoming Peachtree 10K, the Grand Slam Track series, and the trials and tribulations of hosting a U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, as Atlanta did so sensationally in 2020.  Kenah is a past Olympian at 800 meters, and a former athlete agent, who once worked with Michael Jordan, the basketball star when he wasn't organizing track meets, or ironing out details of runner contracts. Also, George and Amby predict the Faith Kipyegon Breaking4 outcome, and their favorite in the Western States 100, both of which will take place in just a day or two. Learn more about the Atlanta Track Club here. Watch Kipyegon's Breaking4 attempt Thursday, June 26, here. Live and free on YouTube. It's scheduled to take place at 1:15 p.m. East Coast time. (That could change if Paris weather is not optimal.)  Western States will also be covered live and free on YouTube for 14+ hours Saturday, June 28, beginning at 8 a.m. East Coast Time. Here. WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible PandoraI Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

    57 min

  2. JUN 12

    Thomas Panek, blind runner and CEO

    Thomas Panek is blind, a frequent marathoner, and President and CEO of Lighthouse Guild, a national nonprofit providing services to the visually impaired. Panek is the first person with vision loss to lead Lighthouse Guild. In addition to running marathons tethered to human guide runners, he has finished the New York City Half Marathon with a team of guide dogs. He is also working with Google engineers to develop a phone app that can help the blind "see" the road and various obstacles around them. In this podcast, Panek got George's attention by talking about "blind baseball"--a sport George is eager to witness. Amby was drawn to Panek's comments about how running can be especially powerful at improving the independence and mental health of physically challenged individuals.  Learn more about Thomas Panek and Lighthouse Guild here. WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

    56 min

  3. MAY 31

    David Roche, podcaster and top ultra runner

    David Roche is producer of one of the world’s most popular podcasts, “Some Work, All Play,” with his cohost and wife, Megan. He’s also a contender to win the Western States 100 Miler at the end of June. That’s a rare combination. His back story is even more amazing. A little more than a year ago, Roche was seriously injured when struck by a car while bicycling a favorite road near Boulder, CO. At that time, the Duke Law School grad and ultramarathon coach had never even attempted a 100-mile. But last summer he broke a longstanding course record in the Leadville Trail 100, and several months later scored a convincing win (in torrid temps) in the Javelina 100. A fan of “Hamilton” the musical (“I’m not givin’ away my shot”) and Simone Biles (“F___ around and find out”), Roche professes to believe that almost everyone’s “amazing” and should reach high for their personal goals. Megan is both his coach, a champion ultra runner on her own, and an M.D. and PhD graduate from Stanford University. Every week, their pod covers the latest research findings about running, as they attempt to “science the sh__” out of endurance performance. You can learn more about David & Megan Roche at their SWAPrunning.com website, or at David's Instagram page. David's quest to win Western States has been chronicled here in a YouTube series by video producer Cody Bare. Key Sections Of The Podcast 0:00 Introduction to David Roche: The Rise of an Ultra Runner 10:33 David's Background: Life, Family, and Coaching 13:43 The Dynamic Duo: David and Megan Roche 16:47 The Birth of a Podcast: Authenticity and Popularity 19:44 Language and Honesty: The Explicit Nature of the Podcast 22:37 Uplifting Messages: The Importance of Kindness 25:55 Science vs. Intuition: Balancing Training Approaches 28:42 Training Insights: The Art of Adaptation 31:44 Overcoming Challenges: The Impact of a Serious Accident 34:39 Life Lessons: Embracing Mortality and Racing 37:43 The Athletic Journey: From Football to Ultra Running 38:46 The Journey to Natural Running 40:13 Genetics and Athletic Performance 43:01 Rapid Rise in Ultra Running 47:35 Mental Resilience and Self-Confidence 51:32 The Competitive Landscape of Ultra Running 54:28 Key Factors for Success at Western States 56:58 Reflections on the Evolution of Running 01:01:09 The State of the Sport of Running 01:03:53 Wishes for the Future WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

    1h 9m

  4. MAY 17

    Alistair Cragg, coach of Puma Elite

    In this episode, we chat with Alistair Cragg, coach of the highly successful Puma Elite Running team based in the Research Triangle of North Carolina. Cragg was a 3-time Irish Olympian with a lifetime best of 13:03 for 5000 meters. His wife and co-coach, Amy Hastings Cragg, represented the U.S. in the 2016 Olympic Marathon after winning the Olympic Marathon Trials that year.  In February, 2024, Puma runner Fiona O'Keeffe won the Marathon Trials in Orlando in her very first marathon (she qualified with a fast half-marathon time. In early 2025, Puma runners continued to excel on the roads. At the USA Half Marathon Championships in Atlanta, both Taylor Roe and Alex Maier took the individual titles. Roe subsequently ran an eye-popping 49:53 in the Cherry Blossom 10-Mile, while Maier won the Dusseldorf Marathon in 2:08:33. Meanwhile O'Keeffe has healed from the injury that sidelined her at the Paris Olympics, and is training hard again. In our conversation with Alistair Cragg, he said that he could see her getting down to 2:15 in the marathon. Podcast segments include: Introduction to Alistair Cragg 01:26 Life as a Co-Coach and Family Man 04:41 Building the Puma Elite Running Team 06:10 Spotlight on Fiona O'Keeffe 12:16 Challenges at the Paris Olympics 19:05 The Future of Puma Athletes 25:31 Fiona's Journey and Team Dynamics 27:38 Success of Male Athletes in Dusseldorf 28:45 Alex Maier's Potential and Training Philosophy 31:27 The Impact of Shoe Technology on Performance 36:07 Balancing Training and Injury Prevention 39:56 Training Philosophy and Building Strength 46:25 The State of Distance Running 49:44 Puma is now claiming to have ⁠the world's fastest running shoe.⁠ Its athletes appear to be equally fast. For more about the Puma Elite runners, check out ⁠PumaEliteRunning.com⁠ and follow the team on ⁠Instagram. WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify AudiblePandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:24 marathon runner.

    1 hr

  5. APR 14

    Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger

    In this episode of "Running: State of the Sport," Lisa Weidenbach Rainsberger reflects on her Boston Marathon win 40 years ago in 1985. She also traces the amazing arc of her running career from All American swimmer to college track star to youthful marathon standout. Lisa is widely known for her three consecutive fourth-place finishes in the Olympic Trials Marathon, but she doesn’t shed any tears over these disappointments. Instead, she celebrates the many positive aspects of her long racing and coaching career.  She also discusses how she and her daughter, Katie, negotiated a healthy mother-daughter, coach-athlete relationship. This is a big story in running now, due to the highly publicized Ingebrigtsen family lawsuit in Norway. Some highlights moments in the podcast 00:00 Celebrating a Marathon Legend 10:00 Lisa's Journey: From Swimming to Running 13:20 The Boston Marathon Experience 16:13 Olympic Trials and Career Highlights 19:02 Transitioning from Swimming to Running 22:20 Coaching Insights and Modern Training 25:04 The Evolution of Running Technology 28:04 Reflections on Female Sports and Future Aspirations 51:07 Lisa Rainsberger: A Journey Through Running 53:21 Coaching Dynamics: The Parent-Child Relationship in Sports 56:13 WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

    52 min

  6. APR 5

    John Cahill, 101-yr-old runner

    In this episode of the podcast "Running: State of the Sport," hosts Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch interview John Cahill, a remarkable centenarian runner who shares his inspiring journey from starting to run at age 62 to completing marathons in his 70s and 80s. He ran a 3:05 marathon at 72 and continued to race into his 90s. Cahill discusses his early life, health challenges, and the joy of running, emphasizing the importance of staying active and engaged in various activities. His philosophy of 'keep moving' resonates throughout the conversation. Cahill offers valuable insights into aging, motivation, and living a full life. "I enjoy almost everything that I do," he says. "I have led a charmed life." Key Points (minutes into Cahill interview) 00:00 Introduction to John Cahill: A Centenarian Runner 03:03 John's Journey into Running 06:01 Overcoming Health Challenges 09:05 Marathon Achievements and Training Regimen 12:09 Early Life and Sports Background 14:55 Military Service and Its Impact 18:00 Transition from Law to Ski Lodge Owner 20:57 Reflections on Aging and Motivation 23:50 Travel Adventures and Life Philosophy 27:00 Final Thoughts and Wishes for the Future WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

    43 min

  7. MAR 19

    Bobbi Gibb Interview

    In this episode, we explore the inspiring journey of Bobbi Gibb, the first woman to run the Boston Marathon, in 1966. She shares her experiences of training, the journey to Boston, and the emotional impact of crossing the finish line, all while challenging societal norms and advocating for women's rights in sports. Gibb also discusses her journey beyond running--including her artistic endeavors and the challenges she faced as a woman in various fields. Bobbi always emphasizes the importance of individual passion and the need for a peaceful, cooperative world. Podcast Chapters (indicated times from beginning of Gibb Interview) 00:00 Introduction to a Trailblazer 01:05 Bobby's Early Years and Running Journey 02:15 The 1965 Boston Marathon Experience 07:05 Facing Rejection and Finding Motivation 15:20 The Decision to Run in 1966 17:23 The Journey to Boston 21:16 The Marathon Experience Begins 25:00 Crossing the Finish Line and Its Impact 30:37 Breaking Barriers: Bobbi Gibb's Historic Run 35:22 The Press and Public Reaction: A New Era for Women 38:17 Persistence and Recognition: Bobbi's Continued Impact 42:56 Art and Legacy: Bobbi's Sculptures and Contributions 47:45 Facing Discrimination: Bobbi's Journey Beyond Running 53:36 A Vision for the Future: Bobbi's Hopes for Humanity WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

    1h 8m

  8. MAR 1

    Bill Rodgers Interview

    In this episode, we celebrate the 50th anniversary of Bill Rodgers's first Boston Marathon win in 1975. Bill reflects on his early struggles, the pivotal moments that reignited his passion for running, and the significance of community in the sport. In particular, he discusses his memorable 1975 Boston Marathon victory, the evolution of marathon running, and the challenges he faced during his Olympic journey. He also shares personal anecdotes about his experiences with runners like Frank Shorter and Alberto Salazar, his current running, and the critical role of friendship among all runners, young and old. Key Sections Include Introduction to Bill Rodgers Bill's Early Life and Running Journey The Comeback: From Quitting to Winning The 1975 Boston Marathon Victory Olympic Disappointment and Resilience The King of the Roads: Bill's Legacy Training Regimens and Strategies Reflections on the 1980 Olympic Boycott Memories of Alberto Salazar The Duel in the Sun: A Race to Remember The Journey of a Running Entrepreneur The Drive to Keep Running How to Run the Boston Marathon Course The State of Running Today Bill's Fairy Godmother Wishes for the Future To learn more about Bill Rodgers, visit his website at ⁠https://www.billrodgersrunningcenter.com/⁠ WHERE TO FIND "RUNNING: STATE OF THE SPORT" Use your smartphone to download podcast apps from Apple, Spotify, Pandora, or YouTube Podcasts. Once you've selected your favorite app, search for "running state of the sport." With your computer, tablet, or smartphone, you can also listen direct to “Running: State of the Sport” at the below internet links. Apple Spotify Audible Pandora I Heart Radio YouTube "Running: State of the Sport" is brought to you by MarathonHandbook.com and RunLongRunHealthy.com. Marathon Handbook is the world’s leading marathon website, with a special focus on trustworthy running information and free, runner-tested training plans for all ability levels. "Run Long, Run Healthy" is a weekly newsletter focused on the newest, most scientific, and most useful training advice for runners. It was launched by Amby in 2021, and is now edited by Brady Holmer, exercise physiologist and 2:36 marathon runner.

    1h 3m
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The podcast where we talk to the smartest, most informed, most influential, and sometimes fastest runners on the planet.

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  • Creator
    Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2025
  • Episodes
    44
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Amby Burfoot and George Hirsch
  • Show Website
    Running--State of the Sport

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