Shake the Dust

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Shake the Dust

Seeking Jesus, confronting injustice–Shake the Dust features candid interviews and informed discussions that guide us as we resist the idols of America. www.ktfpress.com

  1. Election Questions, Anti-Blackness, and Hope Outside the Church - A Season Finale Mailbag

    NOV 22

    Election Questions, Anti-Blackness, and Hope Outside the Church - A Season Finale Mailbag

    It’s our season finale! We’re answering listener questions and talking: -        Staying grounded and emotionally healthy post-election -        Some mistakes people are making in their election analysis -        Why the politics of identity will never go away in America -        How the Church can and can’t fight anti-Blackness and other forms of injustice -        Where you can hear us in between seasons -        And a lot more! Mentioned in the Episode: -        Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor by Rev. Caleb Campbell -        Our newsletter from last week with a worship playlist and sermon Jonathan recommended -        The Webinar Intervarsity is doing with Campbell on Tuesday – Register here. -        The article on patriarchy by Frederick Joseph: “For Palestinian Fathers, Sons, and Brothers” -        Our free guide to processing and acting on the injustices you encounter Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Editing by Multitude Productions -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript Introduction [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Sy Hoekstra: The beauty of the church is not in how good it is. The church is beautiful in the light of Christ, not in the light of its own good work and goodness. The church is beautiful when it is people collectively trying to put their faith in the grace that governs the universe, and not put their faith in their own ability to bring the kingdom of God into this world. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/That it will roll in abundance/ And that you’re building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus confronting injustice. I'm Sy Hoekstra. Jonathan Walton: And I'm Jonathan Walton. We have a great show for you today. It's our season four finale. We're answering listener questions and continuing our discussion from our Substack live conversation two weeks ago, about where to go from the Trump election as followers of Jesus. Sy Hoekstra: And because this is the finale, let me just take a quick second to tell you where we are going from here. We are gonna be doing our monthly bonus episodes for our paid subscribers, like we usually do when we are not on a season of this show. We are going to be doing them though slightly differently. You will have the opportunity to hear them at one point if you're not a paid subscriber, because we're gonna record them like we did two weeks ago on Substack Live. So if you want to see those when they are being recorded, download the Substack app. If you get on our free emailing list, you'll be notified when we start. You just need to go ahead and get that app, it's both on iOS and Android. And if you wanna make sure that you're getting our emails in your Gmail inbox, because we've heard some people tell us they're going to the promotions folder or whatever Gmail is trying to do to filter out your spam, but actually filtering out the stuff that you wanna see, you just have

    54 min
  2. Grief, and What to Do After the Election

    NOV 7

    Grief, and What to Do After the Election

    This is the recording of the conversation we had earlier today on Substack Live reacting to the election. We got into different kinds of grief people may be feeling and our responses to them, how to move forward in the church with uncompromising empathy, and what we thought of the somewhat surprising demographic shifts in this race. There is an AI transcript on the video version of this episode that is on our website, KtFPress.com, and a full transcript will be coming in the next few days. Join us for our next live video in the Substack app. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ktfpress.com/subscribe

    48 min
  3. Bonus Episode: Our October Subscriber Conversation

    NOV 1

    Bonus Episode: Our October Subscriber Conversation

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.ktfpress.com Listen to a recording of our monthly subscriber chat from this past Tuesday, where Jonathan, Sy, and our subscribers get into: -        How to practice hope and peacemaking in fearful times like this election season -        How peace is different than unity, and takes power dynamics into account -        How hope is shaped by God’s presence with us, the depths of evil and suffering we see around us, and perspectives outside our context -        And we discuss and contextualize the news about increased BIPOC support for Trump Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Editing and Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Intro and Announcements Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Sy Hoekstra, and this is a bonus episode where we are bringing you the subscriber conversation that we had just a couple of days ago. You might notice that I, both in the recording and right now sound a little bit sickly just because I have COVID. Don't worry, everything is fine. It's been pretty mild, but I sound stuffy. We are bringing you a great conversation today about hope and about peacemaking in difficult times and times like this election, frankly. Why hope is so hard to have, both because it's risky, but also because it can seem privileged and naive, and why we think it's not and we do it anyways. Some stories of where that kind of hope comes from. And we talk about peacemaking and how it's not the same as just unity and kumbaya, but how we sometimes strive for unity in the name of peace. And sometimes we strive for a little bit of strife, maybe, to tell some truth in the name of peace. Not maybe, we definitely do that a lot [laughs]. And then we get into a little bit about some kind of changing, somewhat changing demographics about who is voting Republican and why that is. And that actually makes sense when you understand it from the perspective of whiteness and colonization. Quick favor to ask, if you like this podcast, which I know you do because you're listening to the subscriber only feed, go give this show a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. And if you're on Apple, give us a written review too. They are so encouraging, and the ratings and the reviews help other people find us and see that other people think that this show is good and worth their time. Also, in case you missed it, we are going to be doing a Substack live conversation on November 6th at 1pm, that's the day after the election. If you're listening to this, you're already on our mailing list, so that means you will be notified via email. You will need the Substack app. There will be a link in that email, but you can also download the app at any time, iOS or Android, and then you'll be able to watch our live video conversation. We've already done the tech check and everything [laughs] to make sure that it all works. It's a new feature on Substack, and we're excited to talk to you, kind of in that new format. So do join us, Wednesday, November 6th, at 1pm to hear our reactions to what happened on Election Day and whatever is

    18 min
  4. How Christians Can Help End Homelessness with Kevin Nye

    OCT 25

    How Christians Can Help End Homelessness with Kevin Nye

    Today, Jonathan and Sy speak with author and housing advocate Kevin Nye about the Church and homelessness. We get into: -        The ineffective housing policies Christians often promote -        The bad theology behind those policies -        A run-in Kevin had with institutional resistance to his view that governments shouldn’t criminalize homelessness -        How churches can get things right in ministries to unhoused people -        Plus, hear our thoughts on the interview, -        A discussion of how we are resisting the negative ways the election is trying to shape us mentally and spiritually -        And our thoughts on all the discourse around Ta-Nehisi Coates’ controversial new book Mentioned in the episode: -        Kevin’s article on Christians mistakenly rejecting housing-first policies -        Josiah Haken’s book, Neighbors with No Doors -        Kevin’s article on Christianity Today’s coverage of homelessness -        His article in RNS about a Supreme Court case on unhoused people’s constitutional rights -        His book, Grace Can Lead Us Home: A Christian Call to End Homelessness -        His Substack, Who Is My Neighbor? -        Ta-Nehisi Coates’ new book, The Message -        Our newsletter with links to a couple of Coates’ interviews Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Editing by Multitude Productions -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Kevin Nye: If you're an average middle class American Christian and you want to become wealthy, have a private jet, a mansion, here's your spiritual steps. Get closer to Jesus, you'll be rewarded with physical wealth. Well, if that's true, the opposite of that would be true, which is that if you are in deep dire poverty, it must mean that you're that much farther from Jesus. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you’re building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Intro and Housekeeping Jonathan Walton: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Jonathan Walton. Sy Hoekstra: And I am Sy Hoekstra, today is gonna be a great one for you. We have a conversation that we're gonna have before we get into our interview, kind of about the election. A little bit of a catch up, since this is actually going to be our last show before the presidential election, which now that I say it into a microphone, is a little bit scary [laughter]. We're gonna be having a conversation today with author, theologian and housing activist Kevin Nye. I've been looking forward to this one for a long time. Basically, the church is extremely involved in housing policy in America, and we are often going about it the wrong way, and that's often because of a lot of bad theology and some falsehoods that we believe about unhoused people, and so Kevin will help us get deep into that. He's a great resource and a great person to talk about it with, as well

    1h 4m
  5. How Our Faith Has Changed, and Why That Change Is Good

    OCT 11

    How Our Faith Has Changed, and Why That Change Is Good

    On today’s episode, we discuss the ways our faith has changed as we’ve grown in discipleship and justice work. Our spiritual practices, as well as our relationships with church, God, and the non-Christian world have all transformed over time, sometimes in surprising ways that would have made us uncomfortable in our earlier years as followers of Jesus. It’s a personal and instructive conversation on how to grow up with Jesus that we know will be helpful for a lot of people. Plus, after that conversation we get into the war in Sudan and why it’s an important topic for us to learn about and engage with. Mentioned in the episode: -            The episode of the Movement Memos podcast about the war in Sudan -            The link to donate to the Sudan Solidarity Collective via PayPal Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Editing by Multitude Productions -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Jonathan Walton: I'm trying to live in the reality that God actually loves me and he actually loves other people, and that's just true. And to live in that quote- unquote, belovedness is really, really, really difficult in a extractivist, culturally colonized, post-plantation, capitalistic society. Sy Hoekstra: [laughs]. Jonathan Walton: It's really, really hard when every single thing that I was raised to do goes against, just receiving anything. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you’re building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Sy Hoekstra. Jonathan Walton: And I'm Jonathan Walton. Sy Hoekstra: This week we have a great conversation. There's no guest this week, it's just Jonathan and I. And we are actually going to be talking about something that we originally were gonna talk to Lisa about in the last episode, but we ran out of time [laughter]. And we thought it would be, actually it was worth taking the time to talk about this in a full episode format. And the topic is basically this, as people grow not just normally in their faith, but also in the kind of work that we're doing, resisting the idols of America and confronting injustice and that sort of thing in their faith, your personal spiritual life tends to change [laughter], to put it mildly. And we wanted to talk about that. It's something that we don't necessarily hear a lot of people talking about as much and I think it's something that people are kind of concerned about. Like it's in the back of people's heads when they start to dive into these justice issues. It's something that I think conservative Christianity has put in the back of your heads [laughs], like your personal walk with Jesus, or your something like that is going to falter if you stray down this road. And so we wanna talk about how things have changed with us, and be as open and honest about that as possible, with our spiritual practices, with our relationship with God, with our relationship with chu

    55 min
  6. How to Stay Faithful to Jesus in Politics with Lisa Sharon Harper

    SEP 27

    How to Stay Faithful to Jesus in Politics with Lisa Sharon Harper

    Today, we’re talking with veteran activist and theologian, the one and only, Lisa Sharon Harper! The conversation covers: -        Lisa’s journey finding Jesus outside of Whiteness and White evangelicalism -        The centrality of advocating for political and institutional policy change to our faith in Jesus -        How respecting the image of God in all people is the starting point for following Jesus to shalom -        The unavoidable job we have to speak truth, even when it is costly -        Where Lisa finds her hope and motivation to keep going -        And after that, we reflect on the interview and then talk all things Springfield, Ohio and Haitian immigrants. Mentioned on the episode: -            Lisa’s website, lisasharonharper.com/ -            Lisa’s Instagram and Facebook -            The Freedom Road Podcast -            Lisa’s books, Fortune and The Very Good Gospel -            Make a donation to The Haitian Community Support and Help Center in Springfield, Ohio via PayPal at haitianhelpcenterspringfield@gmail.com. Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Editing by Multitude Productions -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Lisa Sharon Harper: I would lose my integrity if I was silent in the face of the breaking of shalom, which I learned in Bosnia and Croatia and Serbia, is built on earth through structures. It doesn't just come because people know Jesus. Two thirds of the people in the Bosnian war knew Jesus. The Croats were Christian and the Serbs were Orthodox Christian, and yet they killed each other. Massacred each other. Unfortunately, knowing Jesus is not enough if you have shaped your understanding of Jesus according to the rules and norms of empire. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you’re building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Jonathan Walton: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Jonathan Walton. Sy Hoekstra: And I am Sy Hoekstra. We have a great one for you today. We are talking to veteran organizer and theologian Lisa Sharon Harper, someone who a lot of you probably know and who was pretty big in both of our individual kind of stories and development as people who care about faith and justice when we were younger people, which you will hear about as we talk to her. We are going to be talking to her about the centrality of our voting and policy choices to our witness as Christians, the importance of integrity and respecting the image of God in all people when making difficult decisions about where to spend your resources as an activist, where Lisa gets her hope and motivation and a whole lot more. And then after the interview, hear our reactions to it. And we're also going to be getting into our segment, Which Tab Is Still Open, where we dive a little bit deeper into one of the recommendations from our weekly newsletter that we send out to our subs

    1h 7m
  7. Bonus Episode - September Subscriber Chat

    SEP 26

    Bonus Episode - September Subscriber Chat

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.ktfpress.com Today’s bonus episode is the recording of our most recent monthly subscriber Zoom conversations. This is the second of these we’ve released (the first was here). Give them a listen and join us for the next one! In this episode, the group discusses: -        Books and other resources that have been particularly helpful in spiritual formation -        Emoti…

    15 min
  8. How Trump Makes Confessing Christ Controversial for Christians

    SEP 13

    How Trump Makes Confessing Christ Controversial for Christians

    Today, we’re talking all about the recently-released Confession of Evangelical Conviction: -        What the confession is and what it says -        Why we signed it and got involved promoting it -        How the American church got to the point where a confession of very basic political theology like this is necessary -        And after that conversation, we talk the many layers of Christian nationalism involved in the debacle at Trump’s recent trip to Arlington National Cemetery Mentioned on the episode: -        The Confession of Evangelical Conviction, and the associated resources -        The video we produced to promote the confession Credits -            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com. -        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads. -        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon. -        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. -        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram. -        Editing by Multitude Productions -        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. -        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribers Transcript Introduction [An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”] Sy Hoekstra: When we first started doing this work and we published our anthology, we went on a couple of podcasts about it. A common thing that people asked of us at the time was, where do you think the White American church, where do you think the like 81 percent of the church, the White evangelical church that voted for Trump is going? And the first time I said it, I sort of surprised myself and I was like, look, it's being cut off the vine for not bearing good fruit and thrown in the fire. There's been a long time coming of a divorce, like a complete split between White evangelicals in America and followers of Jesus. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you’re building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Sy Hoekstra. Jonathan Walton: And I'm Jonathan Walton. Sy Hoekstra: We have a great show for you today. We're doing something a little bit different. We are talking about a bit of a movement, a little, a confession that we have signed onto that we're a part of that we're producing some media around that you may have seen by the time this episode comes out. And it's a confession of sort of evangelical faithfulness to Jesus in a political context. And it is probably a little bit off the beaten path of kind of some of the political commentary that we normally engage in. And we wanted to talk to you about why we think it is a good and strategic thing for us to do during this season, give you some of our thinking behind how we kind of strategize politically and think about ourselves as part of a larger theological and political movement. So I think this will be a really good conversation. We're also gonna get into our Which Tab Is Still Open and talk to you about Christian nationalism and whiteness through the lens of Donald Trump doing absurd things at Arlington National Cemetery [laughs]. Jonathan Walton: Yes. Sy Hoekstra: But we will get into all of that in a moment. Before we do, Jonathan Walton. Jonathan Walton: Hey, remember, if you like what you hear and read from us at KTF Press and would like for it to continue beyond the election s

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Seeking Jesus, confronting injustice–Shake the Dust features candid interviews and informed discussions that guide us as we resist the idols of America. www.ktfpress.com

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    2021 - 2024
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