57 episodes

A new era is upon us, and Tangent💚 is back with our fourth new limited series, hosted by Proptech entrepreneur Edward Cohen, and venture capitalists Jeffrey Berman (Partner at Camber Creek) and Zach Aarons (Co-founder and GP at MetaProp). Tangent unites Proptech founders💡, real estate investors🏢, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration.

💚Tangent Tank: Housing Crisis: Intrepid founders apply to come pitch their impactful business ideas to help solve the housing affordability, accessibility and supply crisis in the US and worldwide.



If you would like to apply to pitch your startup on Tangent Tank: Housing Crisis, email us your application to tangentcommunity@gmail.com .



💚Tangent Proptech: Proptech founders, real estate CEO's and urban leaders sharing groundbreaking companies, ideas, entrepreneurial lessons and inspiring stories. Stimulating debate may include the future of cities, the hybrid work era and Discomfort Zones (TM). Edward & Jeff cover also cover trending topics in Commercial real estate, Residential real estate, Proptech, Venture Capital and Finance with select industry experts.



If you're working with a non-profit org., a small business or an early-stage Proptech, that makes our communities and cities better, and would like to have your mission featured during our Features segment, please apply to tangentcommunity@gmail.com.



Tune in to our 3 previous limited series, wherever you get your podcasts.



Stay curious and always be learning! 🤓



PS. Do not take anything said on this podcast as investment advise or seriously, this is for entertainment purposes only. 🙃

Tangent 💚 Proptech Edward Cohen, Jeff Berman & Zach Aarons

    • Technology
    • 4.9 • 31 Ratings

A new era is upon us, and Tangent💚 is back with our fourth new limited series, hosted by Proptech entrepreneur Edward Cohen, and venture capitalists Jeffrey Berman (Partner at Camber Creek) and Zach Aarons (Co-founder and GP at MetaProp). Tangent unites Proptech founders💡, real estate investors🏢, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration.

💚Tangent Tank: Housing Crisis: Intrepid founders apply to come pitch their impactful business ideas to help solve the housing affordability, accessibility and supply crisis in the US and worldwide.



If you would like to apply to pitch your startup on Tangent Tank: Housing Crisis, email us your application to tangentcommunity@gmail.com .



💚Tangent Proptech: Proptech founders, real estate CEO's and urban leaders sharing groundbreaking companies, ideas, entrepreneurial lessons and inspiring stories. Stimulating debate may include the future of cities, the hybrid work era and Discomfort Zones (TM). Edward & Jeff cover also cover trending topics in Commercial real estate, Residential real estate, Proptech, Venture Capital and Finance with select industry experts.



If you're working with a non-profit org., a small business or an early-stage Proptech, that makes our communities and cities better, and would like to have your mission featured during our Features segment, please apply to tangentcommunity@gmail.com.



Tune in to our 3 previous limited series, wherever you get your podcasts.



Stay curious and always be learning! 🤓



PS. Do not take anything said on this podcast as investment advise or seriously, this is for entertainment purposes only. 🙃

    Climate Tech | Sustainability & Economic Benefits From Decarbonizing Real Estate, with Cortex CRO Lisa Rockefeller

    Climate Tech | Sustainability & Economic Benefits From Decarbonizing Real Estate, with Cortex CRO Lisa Rockefeller

    Lisa Rockefeller is the Chief Revenue Officer at Cortex Sustainability Intelligence, the decarbonization platform built for commercial real estate, where she's driving the go-to market strategy. Cortex's advanced AI helps CRE teams amplify operational effectiveness, make informed decisions about capital investments, and tactically address regulation risks. Lisa has spent over 15 years in the regulated and unregulated Climate Tech space, including at EnerNOC's, a leading provider of cloud-based energy intelligence software, and at Palmetto Solar.
    (0:25) - Lisa's origin story(1:18) - Quantifying the real estate decarbonization problem(5:40) - Defining sustainability goals for CRE players(10:25) - Cortex's data stack(13:23) - Types of asset classes & building sizes working with Cortex(20:11) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas - The Future of Real Estate Is Here. Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent(21:02) - Driving Cortex's adoption & estimating ROI(23:33) - Has Real Estate done enough to cut carbon emissions? (32:04) - Collaboration Superpower: Neil deGrasse Tyson (Wiki)
    💚 Learn more:➡️ Cortex Sustainability Intelligence's site➡️ Lisa Rockefeller on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 35 min
    The New Generation of Real Estate Tech Venture Capital, with RE Angels GP & Founder Alon Gorbonos

    The New Generation of Real Estate Tech Venture Capital, with RE Angels GP & Founder Alon Gorbonos

    Alon is the Founder and General Partner of RE Angels, a real estate technology angel fund solely composed of real estate experts with deep and diverse industry expertise focused on early stage startups. Alon also owns and manages several multifamily portfolios throughout the southeast (FL, NC & VA). Alon was the co-founder and managing partner of DTI Holdings, a vertically-integrated private equity real estate fund, which was established in early 2017 and successfully divested in 2021 - achieving 20% IRR. Previously, as a senior investment manager at MIO Partners, McKinsey & Company’s Investment Office. Prior to MIO Partners, Alon worked as a strategic consultant for McKinsey & Company, managing private equity client engagements.
    (0:32) - RE Angels & Alon's origin story(2:27) - Is Real Estate slow to adopt tech(4:49) - Early-stage Proptech VC criteria(10:02) - Proptech VC challenges(13:25) - RE Angels investment criteria(17:49) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(19:00) - RE Angels Real Estate Tech framework(25:00) - Driving behavioral change through innovation(30:24) - Feature: Blueprint Vegas - The Future of Real Estate Is Here. Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent(31:16) - RE Angels PortCo's: Paraspot.AI (AI-powered inspections for real estate) & Waltz (Enabling foreign investors to invest in US Real Estate) (39:08) - Collaboration Superpower: Warren Buffett
    💚 Learn more:➡️ RE Angels' site➡️ Alon Gorbonos on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint Vegas 2024 - Tangent listeners get a $300 discount at BlueprintVegas.com/Tangent ➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.
    💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 44 min
    Future of Office | Coworking is Dead, Long Live Coworking: The New Flex Office Generation, with a16z-backed Codi CEO Christelle Rohaut

    Future of Office | Coworking is Dead, Long Live Coworking: The New Flex Office Generation, with a16z-backed Codi CEO Christelle Rohaut

    Christelle Rohaut is the Founder and CEO of Codi (backed by a16z), where she's building the walk-to-work revolution. Codi offers turnkey, private office spaces with the most flexible terms on the market. In a matter of days, any company can find a space for their team, with full and part-time options, outsourced office management, and flexible leases. Codi has also created a Relief Fund to help businesses impacted by WeWork's struggles. Christelle is an Urban Planner who aspires to achieve positive social and natural impacts for happier livelihoods. She seeks to innovatively rethink urban systems to help cities be a happier place for all.
    (2:11) - State of Office market(13:58) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(15:10) - What's wrong with traditional Coworking(21:43) - Types of buildings partnering with Codi(23:56) - Codi's WeWon't marketing campaign(29:34) - Collaboration Superpower: Brian Chesky (Airbnb CEO & Co-founder) & Conchita Martinez (Spanish tennis champion & coach)
    💚 Learn more:➡️ Codi's site➡️ Christelle Rohaut on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.
    💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 36 min
    A New Way to Finance Tech-Enabled Real Estate Co's & Lessons from the Proptech Boom Cycle, with Cherry Lawn Capital Managing Partner Robert McDonald

    A New Way to Finance Tech-Enabled Real Estate Co's & Lessons from the Proptech Boom Cycle, with Cherry Lawn Capital Managing Partner Robert McDonald

    Robert McDonald is the Managing Partner at Cherry Lawn Capital, on a mission to provide businesses with the real estate capital necessary to scale and the operational capital needed for a successful next venture round. Robert joins Edward, Jeff and Zach to also discuss lessons and takeaways from the previous Proptech boom cycle, and how should founders and investors think about structuring, financing and scaling tech-enabled and data-driven Real Estate business in the post-ZIRP era. (1:19) - State of Proptech VC(9:56) - Proptech finance incentives (14:24) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(15:36) - Cherry Lawn Capital's & Robert McDonald's origin story(20:04) - Cherry Lawn solution(31:38) - 'The Great Transition' for Proptech valuations(36:01) - Collaboration Superpower: David F. Swensen's wiki & Paul Annacone's wiki
    💚 Learn more:➡️ Cherry Lawn Capital's site➡️ Robert McDonald on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.
    💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 41 min
    Climate Tech | How to Solve Real Estate's Greatest Challenge, with Measurabl CEO Matt Ellis

    Climate Tech | How to Solve Real Estate's Greatest Challenge, with Measurabl CEO Matt Ellis

    Matt Ellis is the CEO of Measurabl, the world’s most widely adopted ESG solution for real estate. Customers use Measurabl to measure, manage, report, and act on ESG data on more than 15 billion square feet of commercial real estate across 92 countries. Measurabl empowers customers to optimize ESG performance, assess exposure to physical climate risk, drive decarbonization, and secure sustainable finance opportunities. Matt is responsible for overall company operations, product vision and investor relations. Before founding Measurabl, Matt spent 5 years with CBRE, where he led CBRE’s Sustainability Practice Group. In this Climate Tech episode, Jeffrey Berman and Edward Cohen are joined by guest co-host Nina Mesalles, Climate Tech investor at Decarbonization Partners, a BlackRock and Temasek JV investing in next generation innovative decarbonization businesses.
    (3:40) - What is Real Estate supposed to measure in ESG(6:37) - Use cases across the Real Estate cycle(10:12) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(11:24) - Players driving ESG impact(14:33) - Impact on market behavior(17:49) - Defining success in Real Estate Sustainability(22:02) - Building usage impact on efficiency & certifications(24:45) - Measurabl's Real Estate Sustainability data stack(27:19) - Levers for Real Estate investors & operators to improve sustainability(29:45) - Challenges to adopting energy optimization solutions(35:20) - Climate change impact on coastal Real Estate(37:42) - Where will Measurabl be in 5-10 years?(40:05) - Cities & countries leading Real Estate Sustainability(43:05) - Collaboration Superpower: Taylor Swift
    💚 Learn more:➡️ Measurabl's site➡️ Matt Ellis on LinkedIn➡️ Matt’s debut book From Green to ESG, available here
    ➡️ Nina Mesalles on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.
    💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Nina Mesalles on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 45 min
    Future of Office | The Boring Building Amenity That Makes CRE Investors Money, with Stuf CEO Kat Lau

    Future of Office | The Boring Building Amenity That Makes CRE Investors Money, with Stuf CEO Kat Lau

    Katharine Lau is the CEO and Co-founder of Stuf, a self storage startup delivering modern, tech-enabled storage to consumers and businesses. Stuf partners with real estate owners to monetize basements, garages, and other spaces in commercial buildings as storage, creating new cash flow opportunities for landlords while providing neighborhoods with a new amenity. Stuf was recognized by Fast Company as one of The World’s Most Innovative Companies in 2022. Previously, Kat led the supply-side business of Industrious, the nation's leading premium workplace and coworking provider, where she pioneered an industry shift to asset- and liability-light agreements with property owners.
    (1:42) - Stuf origin story(5:46) - Target markets and type of buildings suited for conversions(10:00) - Business model & scaling CRE conversions(11:32) - Stuf's tech stack(15:02) - Feature: Housing Trust Silicon Valley(16:14) - Industrious transition from asset-heavy to asset-light(20:44) - WeWork's tumultuous office lease renegotiations(22:34) - Future of office uses(25:44) - Office-to-art space conversion(27:22) - Collaboration Superpower: Marie Kondo
    💚 Learn more:➡️ Stuf's site➡️ Katharine Lau on LinkedIn
    💚 Feature:➡️ Housing Trust Silicon Valley's site - Housing finance & public-private partnerships to create more equitable & affordable communities.
    💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Edward Cohen on X➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on X➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on X
    Disclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

    • 30 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
31 Ratings

31 Ratings

Tina Larsson ,

Great proptech podcast

Lots of great guests and topics in the proptech building space!

josecitodr ,

Very informative

To the point all questions and answers.

SAARKÉSH ,

Hot Topics Short of Real Analysis

Case in point, a recent episode on current crisis in housing affordability completely ignored two key issues:

1. increased competition from all cash deals
2. Lack of accurate objective data analysis on valuation & appraisals

Home ownership in the 21st century needs a business model paradigm shift gentlemen. Not just the obvious noise reduction and simplification in all inefficient processing!

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