45 episodes

Welcome to Tangents by Out of Architecture, hosted by Silvia Lee. We’re highlighting some of our favorite stories from the amazing people we’ve met along our journey. We will hear how they created a unique career path for themselves from the variety of skills and talents they developed in and out of architecture.

Out of Architecture is a career consulting firm started by two Harvard-educated professionals interested in exploring the value of their skills both in and out of the architectural profession. We’re here to help you maximize all of the expertise you have honed as a designer to get you a role that fulfills and challenges you. We have the knowledge, experience, and connections to help you put your best self into the market–and reap the benefits.

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Welcome to Tangents by Out of Architecture, hosted by Silvia Lee. We’re highlighting some of our favorite stories from the amazing people we’ve met along our journey. We will hear how they created a unique career path for themselves from the variety of skills and talents they developed in and out of architecture.

Out of Architecture is a career consulting firm started by two Harvard-educated professionals interested in exploring the value of their skills both in and out of the architectural profession. We’re here to help you maximize all of the expertise you have honed as a designer to get you a role that fulfills and challenges you. We have the knowledge, experience, and connections to help you put your best self into the market–and reap the benefits.

    A Passion for Listening, Learning & Helping with Nate Steinrueck

    A Passion for Listening, Learning & Helping with Nate Steinrueck

    Our guest today, Nate Steinrueck, Product Strategist at Outer Labs, shares his journey from studying anthropology to working in architecture and eventually transitioning into the tech industry. He emphasizes the importance of being a good listener, learner, and helper in his work, and how these qualities have shaped his career. Nate also discusses the similarities between architecture and product strategy, highlighting the value of problem-solving and effective communication in both fields. He offers advice for those looking to make a career change and emphasizes the importance of finding alignment between one's strengths and passions.
    Listen to the end to hear our highlight from OOA community member, Rachel Gresham, Senior Director, Professional Practice Programs at The American Institute of Architects. Connect with her on Linkedin, and let her know you found her through the Tangents podcast.
    Highlights:
    Nate strives to be a listener, learner, and helper in his work, focusing on understanding the needs of others and finding ways to make their work more efficient.His background in architecture has provided him with valuable insights and skills that he applies to his role as a product strategist.Effective communication and problem-solving are essential in both architecture and product strategy.When making a career change, it's important to evaluate your strengths and passions and find alignment with the roles and companies you're considering. (Find out the interesting way Nate went about doing this!)

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    • 55 min
    Making Your Own Path In Architecture with Matter's Erin Pellegrino

    Making Your Own Path In Architecture with Matter's Erin Pellegrino

    On this episode of Tangents, Erin Pellegrino, Principal at Matter, and Co-Founder of Out of Architecture, shares her journey of balancing making and thinking in architecture, leading to a fulfilling and impactful career. From rebellious tomboy to successful architect, she discusses her approach to challenging the status quo and overcoming roadblocks by adopting a mindset of perseverance and continuous improvement. 
    Erin's stories of building an Alpine shelter in the Alps and transforming a mid-century modern house's kitchen highlight the power of architecture to create meaningful spaces. From starting her own practice to co-founding Out of Architecture, Erin's experiences offer valuable insights into thriving as a creative professional.
    Key Takeaways:
    Erin emphasizes the importance of remaining curious, ambitious, and optimistic to navigate the challenges of the architecture field.Building a career in architecture involves a balance between making and thinking, while striving to make a positive impact on the world.Overcoming insecurities and fears is crucial in pursuing one's career goals, along with seeking mentorship and support from experienced professionals.Responding to "no" by reframing it as an opportunity for refinement and improvement can lead to transformative outcomes in projects and career endeavors.Engaging in socially engaged work, such as projects for the unhoused, showcases the immense potential of architecture to address social issues and create meaningful change.Highlights:
    Ambitious, Curious, Striving to be an OptimistEri Berry Woman Drink RecipeFalling in Love with the Folk Art MuseumDoing It All: From Teaching, To Practicing and MoreProfessional Practice: Expectations Vs. RealityCreating Out of ArchitectureOvercoming Feelings of InadequacyWhat Success Feels LikeArchitecture is an Inherently Optimistic ActAdvice for Starting Your Own PracticeGet Comfortable Asking for What You WantFiguring Out How To Get Things DoneThen Challenging How Things Are DoneBuilding A Wave of Change

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    • 45 min
    Having Confidence in Your Skills and Experiences with Adidas's Jake Rudin

    Having Confidence in Your Skills and Experiences with Adidas's Jake Rudin

    Our guest today is Jake Rudin, Senior Manager Digital Technologies at Adidas, and Co-Founder of Out of Architecture. 
    In this episode, Jake Rudin discusses his journey from architecture to leading digital innovation at Adidas, emphasizing the importance of confidence in showcasing one's skills in job interviews. He shares insights on translating architectural skills into various industries, the power of visual representation in presentations, and the significance of treating your career like a design problem. Jake also delves into the founding of Out of Architecture and the impact it has had on helping individuals navigate career transitions.
    Jake provides valuable advice on redefining oneself, embracing career changes, and utilizing architectural skills in diverse contexts, inspiring listeners to explore new paths beyond traditional practice. The episode touches on the essence of being an architect as a dreamer and problem solver, capable of making a positive impact in various spheres.
    Highlights:
    Designer, Educator, MakerFollowing A Passion for ArchitectureNot Being Limited by Job DescriptionsCommunicating Your Abilities in Resumes and InterviewsConfidence is KeyTreat Your Career Like a Design ProblemDemand for Out of Architecture AdviceThe Power of Visual RepresentationGet Started with Out of ArchitectureDefining An Architect and Redefining Yourself

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    • 32 min
    Embracing Passion and Flexibility in Career Choices with your Tangents Host Silvia Lee

    Embracing Passion and Flexibility in Career Choices with your Tangents Host Silvia Lee

    This week, we switch things up a little bit where where our host Silvia Lee is interviewed by Out of Architecture's very own Jake Rudin!
    Silvia Lee is the Director of Customer Success at Layer, an adjunct instructor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology, and the host of this Tangents podcast by Out of Architecture. With a background in architecture and a passion for enabling others to achieve their dreams, Silvia brings a unique perspective to her various roles. Her ability to communicate effectively and create connections with people has led to successful collaborations and a fulfilling career journey. By embracing new opportunities and being open to change, Silvia has been able to thrive in roles that allow her to leverage her diverse skill set and make a meaningful impact.
    Highlights:
    Navigating Architectural Careers and Finding Personal StrengthsThe importance of leveraging transferable skills in varied industriesThe value of following one's passions, enabling others, and maintaining authenticity in career pursuitsThe power of effective communication, building connections, and embracing new opportunities for growth and developmentFinding Joy and Connection in Podcasting and Passion ProjectsFind out more at:https://www.linkedin.com/in/silviaxlee/https://layer.team/


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    • 57 min
    The Power of Architects as Change Makers with SOM’s Ellen Abraham

    The Power of Architects as Change Makers with SOM’s Ellen Abraham

    In this Tangents episode, we speak with ELLEN ABRAHAM, Chief Pin Officer at Architect Pins, one of our amazing OOA Advisors and Senior Project Manager and Co-Founder of Equity Design Lab @ SOM.
    In this episode, Ellen Abraham discusses the power of architects as change makers and the importance of thinking beyond traditional roles in the industry. She shares her background in architecture, from growing up in Dominica to pursuing her education and career in New York. Ellen also highlights her current role as a Senior Project Manager at SOM and the founding of the Equity Design Lab, which focuses on community-first and equitable design practices. She emphasizes the need for architects to consider the impact of their designs on communities and the importance of measuring success in terms of social equity, economic equity, and ecology.
    Highlights:
    Architects have the power to be change makers and positively impact communities through their designs.The Equity Design Lab at SOM focuses on creating equitable and community-focused design practices.Conversations, empathy, and education are key to overcoming resistance and implementing change in the industry.Architects should think beyond their traditional roles and consider the long-term effects of their designs on communities.Failing forward is essential for personal and professional growth, and embracing failure can lead to new opportunities.Want to chat further with Ellen? Book some time with her here: https://www.outofarchitecture.com/scheduling


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    • 38 min
    Transforming Passion Into Career Growth with OnePlan's Chi Bhatia

    Transforming Passion Into Career Growth with OnePlan's Chi Bhatia

    Our guest today is Chi Bhatia, VP of Strategy & Growth at One Plan, a SaaS start-up that builds 2D & 3D technology for events & venues. Chi is also part of the amazing career consultant team at Out of Architecture.
    Hear Chi share his journey from international student to completing LA’s first NFL stadium to now working at a tech startup providing support to the 2024 Paris Olympics.
    On this episode of Tangents, Chi Bhatia of OnePlan, and Out of Architecture Career Consultant, shares his experiences transitioning from an Senior Designer to VP Strategy and Growth. Hear how being in Los Angeles, California impacted the trajectory of Chi’s career, and how he systematically approached each step of his journey, using his passion of sports as a driver for his success. 
    Highlights:
    Curious, Systematic, CalmTaking advantage of your environmentImpact of studying architecture in LABeing focused on finding work as an international studentHow software proficiency matters in your job searchUnique Sports Studio at HKS evolving architectureCareer pivots influenced by passion and expertiseWhy Architecture is an underrated professionhttps://www.outofarchitecture.com/bio-chi-bhatia


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    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

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15 Ratings

15 Ratings

Rachel Bacus ,

What’s not said in the profession

This podcast perfectly labels the unspoken rules of architecture and the problems they cause. The stories in here are so relatable and nuanced in a way that most discussions about work just don’t get into. Even if you are in related design fields it is seriously worth listening to! 👏

davidlkhayes ,

Alternative paths

I’ve really enjoyed the positive spin on what felt like a taboo subject. Leaving Architecture or even shifting to something different from traditional practice can feel like throwing away a ton of education and experience. Theses stories have been great in giving examples of how people have leveraged their backgrounds in Architecture to do more without abandoning it.

Jaker09 ,

Great Resource for Architects & Designers

Just a lovely collection of stories of people who’ve done cool things with a background in architecture.

Episodes are short enough to be an easy listen, but long enough to capture some good tips and helpful advice.

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