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The Art of Construction is here to help you grow your business. Together we explore the world of construction with some of the best minds in the industry. This insightful podcast is hosted by thought provoking entrepreneur, Devon Tilly. Devon has been recognized nationally for his innovation and creativity within the building industry. Join our tribe as we master the Art of Construction.

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    • 4.5 • 70 Ratings

The Art of Construction is here to help you grow your business. Together we explore the world of construction with some of the best minds in the industry. This insightful podcast is hosted by thought provoking entrepreneur, Devon Tilly. Devon has been recognized nationally for his innovation and creativity within the building industry. Join our tribe as we master the Art of Construction.

    Software pitching tips

    Software pitching tips

    “Stop selling hopes and dreams, that’s a lot of the problems that we’re seeing…you can’t win them all. Win the ones you think you can execute properly.”

    This is episode 2 of 4 for a Deep Dive Series recorded at the AEC Summit in Austin, Texas in April 2024! If you hear any background noise, that's because this episode was recorded LIVE at the AEC Summit!

    Join Devon as he chats with Hamzah Shanbari of Haskell! Hamzah generously shares his pitching tips and wisdom from working in the industry.

    Hamzah Shanbari is an accomplished professional in the construction industry. Hamzah holds a PhD from the University of Florida and has extensive experience in construction. Currently, he leads innovation efforts within Haskell. In his role at Haskell, Hamzah is responsible for driving innovation and leading the development and implementation of new technology and processes. His innovative mindset and technical expertise have made him a thought leader in the industry, and he regularly speaks at conferences and events on the topic of technology in construction.

    Learn more about Hamzah's book here! 

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    • 29 min
    Building interoperability in software

    Building interoperability in software

    This is episode 1 of 4 for a Deep Dive Series recorded at the AEC Summit in Austin, Texas in April 2024! If you hear any background noise, that's because this episode was recorded LIVE at the AEC Summit!

    “We’re going to have to solve the way that those products work together, and in doing that we’re going to be able to make construction projects run better, run quicker, and run at budget.”

    Join us for this episode as Devon chats with Greg Mattes about software interoperability!

    Greg is the product leader for Trimble App Xchange, a low-code integration platform helping Trimble partners and customers automate their data workflows. Previously he has worked in a variety of industries including space exploration, K-12 education, and health technology. No matter the industry, Greg loves solving customer problems, and software interoperability in the construction industry is a big challenge where App Xchange is making a big difference. 

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    • 33 min
    System Built Master Facilitators lessons learned

    System Built Master Facilitators lessons learned

    "Every developer has a different site, every developer is confounded with different setbacks, zoning, and planning...so everything's different which means it's more project based, you can't just build a thousand of them because you're not going to be able to see a thousand of 'unit A,' and so that's like the biggest challenge."

    Join Devon as he chats with Jared Levy about advancing prefabrication!

    Equal parts creativity and relentless problem solving. He has spent the past two decades in the prefab space, transforming the way housing is built and delivered. He helped launch Marmol Radziner Prefab in 2004 and developed the product line. He was one of the early pioneers in the modern prefab movement and received a ton of press – called “Masterpiece in a Box” by GQ and “Prefab Perfected” by Dwell – but he served a limited niche market with his bespoke custom prefab homes. In 2012, he co-founded and launched Connect Homes. His mission was to deliver modern living to a broader market. By turning the home into a standardized product, they were able to develop an assembly line process to build housing at scale, delivering over 900 modules to date. And with their patented prefab logistics system, they could cost effectively deliver homes to a national market. Their first home appeared on the cover of Dwell with the tag line “Modern For All”, so they knew they were heading in the right direction. And still are to this day.

    At the core of off-site construction are large gaps between design and manufacturing and the field. You might have functional expertise in each of those areas, but things fall through the gaps. These gaps between functions and stakeholders are where margins slip and where schedules slip. With his experience in all aspects of the product lifecycle and value stream, he likes to focus on these gaps and close them.

    As a former CEO, he knows first-hand the path is not always a clear one to scaling in this space. He’s learned what works and doesn’t work, made mistakes along the way, and learned from them to save you from having to repeat them. He is on a never-ending pursuit to build homes more efficiently and he wants to make a positive impact to companies like yours that are trying to change this industry.

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    Read about Jared in this article, Why Prefab Is Broken (and Some Suggestions to fix it)

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    • 49 min
    Embrace the power of prefab construction

    Embrace the power of prefab construction

    "Integrate your assemblies as if they are the lego blocks of building…on top of that, consider modular units as the lego Death Star. Think of it as, not necessarily you have to have an entire modular building, but I have a modular unit.”

    This is episode 3 of 3 for a Deep Dive Series on Advancing Prefabrication! 

    Join Devon and co-host Matt McMullen as he talks with the legendary Lonnie Cumpton of AEC Inspire!

    Lonnie Cumpton brings over three decades of hands-on experience in the building design and construction industry, where he has dedicated himself to mentoring professionals and guiding firms through the complex landscape of technological integration. As Co-founder and Senior Director of Product Strategy and Customer Success at AECInspire, Lonnie is not just a leader but a coach, helping his team and clients embrace prefabrication and innovative solutions to address the skilled labor shortage in the construction industry.


    Lonnie’s approach is firmly grounded in the belief that the best technological implementations start with a focus on people and processes before technology. This guiding principle has shaped his pivotal roles, from overseeing mega-sized projects like the Cosmopolitan Casino Resort to his strategic direction at Sanveo, Inc., and now at AECInspire. He fosters environments where technology acts as an enabler rather than a disruptor, streamlining processes from Takeoff to Prefab to Installation through smart applications and tools.


    Previously, as Director of Construction Manufacturing at the National Electrical Contractors Association (NECA), Lonnie guided electrical contractors in adopting data-centric processes that improve information flow and project outcomes. His tenure at Faith Technologies and Taylor Design further exemplifies his commitment to educational leadership and the practical application of BIM and prefabrication technologies. A respected voice in the industry, Lonnie is regularly featured in trade publications and speaks at conferences like Autodesk University and Advancing Prefabrication, where he shares his vision for a more integrated and efficient future in construction.


    Throughout his career, Lonnie has maintained an unwavering passion for the personal and professional growth of industry professionals. He firmly believes that the key to industry advancement lies in empowering individuals with the knowledge and tools to succeed, making each professional an integral part of the industry's future.

    Read more about the MAP Network. 
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    X - @aec_inspire & @lonniecumpton
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    • 49 min
    Martian solutions to building better homes on Earth

    Martian solutions to building better homes on Earth

    "Through robotic technologies and tele-robotics, it’s going to break...boundaries. Not just within the Earth, even extra-terrestrially through like Mars and the Artemis mission and things like that."

    This is episode 2 of 3 for a Deep Dive Series on Advancing Prefabrication! 

    We're taking a trip to space for this episode! Join Devon as he talks with Dr. Naveen Kumar Muthumanickam, a research engineer at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, as they talk about how building industrialized products on Mars can help solve the affordable housing solution on Earth. 

    Dr. Naveen Kumar Muthumanickam is a research engineer at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, specializing utilizing data driven design, industrialized and robotic construction techniques for rapid volume production of energy-efficient buildings, and automated retrofitting of existing build stock. He received his doctoral degree in architecture along with a concurrent specialization in architectural engineering from Penn State University. He was part of the Penn State team at the finals of the NASA 3D Printed Mars Habitat Centennial Challenge and worked on the building information modeling-based optimization and digital twin simulation for robotic concrete 3D printing. His doctoral research focused on leveraging a range of techniques like generative modeling and machine learning-based metamodels for multidisciplinary design optimization of buildings, specifically for autonomous robotic construction. He is originally from Chennai, India, with a bachelor’s degree in architecture, and he holds an M.S. in architectural science and building technology from the University of Michigan. During his Ph.D., Naveen has held multiple appointments with construction technology firms Autodesk and Higharc, Inc, working on software development for data driven design, simulation, and construction.

    Read another extensive bio on Dr. Naveen Kumar Muthumanickam here! 

    NREL Industrialized & Robotic Construction Team Website

    Watch a webinar about data driven design for autonomous robotic construction!

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    • 1 hr 7 min
    Packaging it up

    Packaging it up

    “I love hearing the words, ‘this is how we’ve always done it…’ because I’m not an expert, I’ve just been around a lot of really smart people, and my job is to consume their information and then try to present it back to people in terminology and systems they actually understand.”

    This is episode 1 of 3 for a Deep Dive Series on Advancing Prefabrication!

    Adam Ketterer's focus is revolutionizing material management for Electrical Contractors. He's helping Electrical Contractors, Distributors and Manufacturers leverage technology to streamline takeoff, BOM, prefab and installation processes to combat the increasing labor shortage in the construction space. Our AECInspire cloud-based software provides full visibility and access to a contractor's supply chain, unlocking prefabrication and collaboration opportunities to help them save time and money!

    He watched his father (with his mother's support) build a company from an idea to $250M a year in annual revenue, He even got to help over the last 10 years. Unfortunately, they trusted the wrong people and lost the family business (the 2nd hardest event in his life behind watching cancer take his mother). As he worked for their lender, dismantling what his father built while helping run the company with a skeleton crew (almost keeping the company alive twice), they discovered numerous missteps that could have been avoided...alas, it was too late.

    Luckily, he landed at Graybar in August 2014 and what a ride it was! The people, culture and values are second to none. From Marketing to Strategy to Sales and back to Strategy, he consistently worked with great folks from across the country who surprised him with creative solutions to customer problems as well as ideas for internal improvement. His time with Graybar was exciting, educational and fulfilling; then a new challenge came calling...

    At Emerson he was privileged to introduce retailers, industry partners and end users to their innovative hardware and software solutions. Additionally, he worked with talented salespeople, developers, marketers, customer service and numerous other fine individuals as they continued to adapt their solutions for additional use cases and ever-changing customer needs. After several years helping customers solve difficult problems, a new and intriguing opportunity presented itself with his friends at AECInspire.

    In his spare time he is interested in why we do the things we do; and if we should continue doing them, how we can do them more effectively.

    AECInspire is the ultimate tool for revolutionizing material management on construction projects. It connects takeoff, BOM, prefab, and installation into one dynamic platform, allowing users to verify, quantify, and integrate their material takeoff with ease. Placing, associating, collaborating, and executing have never been simpler or more efficient, providing project teams with the tools they need to succeed.

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    • 1 hr 3 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
70 Ratings

70 Ratings

Scott Hicken ,

Never a dull moment on AOC!

Extremely interesting podcast that manages to touch on every single aspect of AEC at some point. There’s lots of different conversations happening in the building industries at the moment and the Art of Construction truly manages to tie all those threads together into a single, compelling narrative. Highly recommend!

RWilliamsiii ,

What a great podcast getting construction collaboration

Hearing this great 200th podcast from The Art of Construction reminds me of my own journey when I started a building component factory in 1999. Their conversation about getting the designers and constructors to collaborate to build better buildings and houses. Great thought and passion to improve the processes and industry.

obacker19 ,

Entertaining, insightful and actionable! 🔥

Whether you’re well established as a leader in the construction industry, or just getting started carving out a profitable niche that’s ready to grow - this is a must-listen podcast for you! Devon does an incredible job leading conversations that cover a huge breadth of topics related to the ins and outs of building a thriving construction business, and life you can be proud of - from leaders who’ve actually experienced success themselves. Highly recommend listening and subscribing!

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