The Ben & Jamesa Podcast Ben and Jamesa

Have you ever heard of compassion dissonance? or compassion hierarchy? On today's episode we explore how these concepts allow white people and others to be selectively compassionate. Join Ben and Jamesa as they explore todays news headlines through the lens of compassionate curiosity.

Are you curious how racist you are, or if non-white people can be racist? Join Ben and Jamesa as they review these questions and more using examples from the latest headlines to explain.

Have you ever wondered why White people act like the judge and jury when Black people are in trouble, but act like social workers when people who look like them get in trouble? We explore these questions and more and their toes to toxic individuality, and the cost that has on society.

Ben and Jamesa are joined by international recording artist Eckoes, who shares her take on the problems with how people talk about race as well as sharing some of her music and a previously unheard track! Join the colorful conversation and grow in your ability to lead with compassionate curiosity.

Ben and Jamesa discuss several recent news stories through an anti-racist lens while Jamesa refuses to apologize for calling Ben "Hannibal Lecter" while wearing his new CPAP mask.

Jamesa attended a high school marked by the painful legacy of segregation. During a recent visit to her mother for Mother's Day in the town she went to High School, she and Ben engaged in a poignant conversation. They delved into the unsettling reality that many within the white community remain resistant to understanding the profound impact of historical injustices on the Black community.