The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast

Kayleigh Summers

Birth trauma is the dark and sometimes scary side of pregnancy & postpartum that no one wants to talk about. But, we're here to change that! I'm Kayleigh, a licensed therapist and birth trauma survivor, determined to bring birth trauma out of the shadows and into the light. When we talk about birth trauma, we take away its power and leave space for healing. Your birth trauma does not need to “happen for a reason." Birth trauma sucks and it’s okay to admit that. Join us as we navigate what it means to heal from birth trauma. You’ll hear from experts in the field as well as others who have experienced birth trauma. Storytelling and education are keys to raising awareness and better understanding how we heal trauma. We don’t do toxic positivity in this space, but you’ll definitely hear some dark humor. You’ll laugh and you’ll cry, but, most importantly, you’ll learn that you’re not alone and that healing is possible. Birth trauma is bullish*it, but your healing is not. 

  1. 1D AGO

    Ep. 220: Support for Formula Feeding, Too.

    In this episode, Kayleigh sits down with Mallory, aka The Formula Mom, to talk all things formula feeding, combo feeding, and her brand-new book Bottle Service. They dive into the real, messy, emotional side of infant feeding: the lack of education around formula, the grief of not being able to breastfeed, the pressure of “at all costs” narratives, and why nuance, support, and compassion matter more than ever. This is an honest, validating conversation for anyone who has ever questioned, grieved, or defended how they feed their baby. In this episode, we talk about: 🍼 How Mallory became “The Formula Mom” and why she started sharing formula education 📚 Her new book Bottle Service and the mission behind it 🤱 The lack of accessible, supportive formula feeding education 😔 The grief of wanting to breastfeed but not being able to 💬 Shame, guilt, and stigma around formula feeding ⚖️ Why feeding conversations have become so polarized 🧠 The impact of feeding struggles on mental health 🔀 What combo feeding actually is, and why more families do it than we realize 👶 Navigating gas, allergies, colic, and when (or if) to switch formulas 🏥 Why “just talk to your pediatrician” isn’t always enough 🫶 The importance of supporting the whole parent–baby dyad 🌙 How formula feeding (or combo feeding) can support sleep and family balance 📢 The truth about “predatory marketing” and the history behind the debate 🤍 Why parents deserve information, autonomy, and trust in their own decisions ✨ Creating space for nuance, empathy, and individualized feeding journeys You can find Mallory's book here! If you order before the 24th of February, you can get some pre-order goodies by uploading your receipt to the website! Guest Bio: Mallory is a mom of two, advocate, infant feeding tech, and the author of BOTTLE SERVICE: Education and Encouragement for Guilt-Free and Successful Formula Feeding. She's the face behind The Formula Mom, an online platform that helps parents make informed, confident, and supported infant feeding decisions. She can be found on Instagram @theformulamom, leading education for Bobbie, and hanging in Nashville with her family. Research Referenced: https://doi.org/10.3390/nu14112190 https://voxdev.org/topic/health/deadly-toll-marketing-infant-formula-low-and-middle-income-countries For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    49 min
  2. Episode 219: Two Births, Two NICU Stays: Why Only One Was Traumatic feat. Abigail

    6D AGO

    Episode 219: Two Births, Two NICU Stays: Why Only One Was Traumatic feat. Abigail

    In this episode, Kayleigh sits down with Abigail to talk about her first birth complicated by low amniotic fluid, a late preterm induction, and a long, emotionally exhausting NICU stay, and how that experience shaped her postpartum mental health and feeding journey. Abigail also shares her second birth story, including intentional preparation, advocacy, and what it looked like to face another NICU admission without it becoming traumatic. This episode is a powerful conversation about control, grief, healing, and how trauma-informed care and support can change everything. In this episode, we talk about: 🤰 A pregnancy complicated by low amniotic fluid and an unexpected early induction 🕰️ A long, 48-hour induction and vaginal birth at 34+ weeks 👶 Having a late preterm baby who struggled with feeding, weight gain, and jaundice 🏥 A prolonged NICU stay and the heartbreak of early separation 💔 Grieving the loss of the postpartum experience you imagined 🍼 Pumping in the NICU, feeding challenges, mastitis, and the mental load of it all 😰 Postpartum anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and the impact of early separation from your baby 🧠 Healing through therapy, time, support, and self-compassion 🤍 Babywearing, skin-to-skin, and reclaiming connection after NICU trauma 🌱 Deciding to try again and preparing intentionally for a second birth 🧭 The power of advocacy, informed consent, and slowing things down in medical moments 🚑 A second baby, a beautiful birth center birth—and an unexpected NICU transfer again 🛡️ How autonomy, preparation, and support changed the emotional outcome the second time ✨ Why loss of control is a major factor in birth trauma—and respectful care is protective 🫶 Turning lived experience into purpose as a trauma-informed lactation consultant Why this episode matters: 🌟 You can have trauma from a “medically stable” birth or NICU stay 🌟 Subsequent births don’t have to repeat the same emotional outcome—even if complications happen again 🌟 Advocacy, support, and compassionate care can make a real difference 🌟 Healing is possible, and your postpartum doesn’t have to look the same after trauma Abigail is a board certified lactation consultant and a speech-language pathologist. You can follow along or connect with her by visiting her website: https://www.abbybslp.com/ If you’ve experienced a NICU stay, feeding trauma, or are navigating pregnancy after birth trauma, this episode offers both validation and hope. You’re not alone—and your story gets to keep evolving. 💛 For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    37 min
  3. FEB 4

    Ep. 218: Understanding ECMO & Flight Transport

    In this episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh sits down with Derek Grassley, RN CEN, CFRN, CCRN, NRP, FP-C WP-C - a flight nurse and ECMO specialist, to break down what ECMO is, when it’s used, and why it can be life-saving for critically ill pregnant and postpartum patients. This powerful conversation pulls back the curtain on critical care, emergency transport, and the realities of caring for patients at the edge of survival. 🩺 In this episode, we cover: 🫀 What ECMO is and the difference between VV and VA ECMO 🚑 Why and when ECMO is used, including AFE, cardiac arrest, and respiratory failure ⚖️ Risks and ethical considerations of ECMO care ✈️ Flight nursing & critical care transport explained 🤰 Unique challenges of transporting pregnant and postpartum patients 🏥 Access to ECMO, especially in rural and underserved areas 🧠 The emotional toll of caring for critically ill patients 🎧 This episode is a must-listen for survivors, clinicians, and anyone wanting a deeper understanding of critical care in pregnancy and postpartum. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    52 min
  4. Ep. 217: Placenta Accreta with Postpartum Complications feat. Andrea

    JAN 23

    Ep. 217: Placenta Accreta with Postpartum Complications feat. Andrea

    In this powerful Listener Series episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh is joined by Andrea, who shares her story of an unexpected pregnancy complicated by severe placenta accreta, a nine-hour delivery surgery, massive hemorrhage, ICU recovery, and a long, complex postpartum healing journey. Andrea walks listeners through receiving a terrifying accreta diagnosis at her anatomy scan, navigating the fear of life-threatening hemorrhage, and making the critical decision to transfer care to a specialized accreta center. Her story highlights the importance of self-advocacy, multidisciplinary care, and listening to your instincts, especially when your life is on the line. This episode also tenderly explores the emotional aftermath of survival: delayed bonding after general anesthesia, prolonged separation from her baby, months of physical complications, depression, and the long road to processing trauma once the body finally stabilizes. In this episode, we discuss: 🤰 An unexpected fourth pregnancy and a shocking placenta accreta diagnosi 🩺 Learning what placenta accreta is and why severity matters 🚩Recognizing red flags and transferring care to a high-volume accreta center 🩸 Preparing for hemorrhage, blood loss, and a planned preterm delivery 😴 Delivery under general anesthesia and emergency hysterectomy 🚨 Massive hemorrhage and receiving life-saving blood transfusions 🏥 Waking up intubated in the ICU after a nine-hour surgery 🧵Multiple surgeries, drains, catheters, and prolonged hospitalization 🖤 Delayed bonding and questioning connection after traumatic birth 💔 Postpartum depression, despondency, and emotional collapse after survival 🧍‍♂️The toll of birth trauma on partners and families 💸 Financial strain, caregiving, and extended medical recovery 🔁 Intrusive memories, rumination, and trauma resurfacing months later 🛋️ EMDR therapy and turning down the volume on trauma 🌱 Redefining gratitude without guilt or toxic positivity ❤️ Advocacy for placenta accreta awareness and blood donation 🗣️ The power of self-advocacy in saving your own life Key takeaway: Surviving doesn’t mean you’re instantly okay. Healing after birth trauma often begins after the body is safe and you are allowed to feel grief, anger, and relief at the same time. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    34 min
  5. JAN 20

    A Special ReRelease - Ep. 107: Parenting After Birth Trauma

    ✨ Special Re-Release ✨ Parenting After Birth Trauma As our children grow, many of us begin to notice something unexpected: the ways our birth trauma continues to show up, not just in our bodies and minds, but in our parenting. In this special re-release episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, we revisit a conversation that feels just as relevant, if not more so, today. Kayleigh offers a brief but meaningful overview of what it means to parent after birth trauma, and why this topic comes up again and again in our community. Parenting after birth trauma is layered and complex. It may include unresolved trauma from pregnancy, birth, postpartum, or earlier life experiences, all of which can shape how we bond with, protect, and respond to our children. This episode doesn’t cover everything, but it opens the door to awareness, reflection, and compassion. Whether you’re parenting a newborn, a toddler, or an older child, this re-release offers perspective for navigating the emotional ripple effects of trauma while raising humans you love deeply. In this episode, we discuss: 👶 What it means to parent after birth trauma 🧠 How trauma can impact parenting styles and responses 🔗 Bonding and attachment after a traumatic experience ⚠️ Hypervigilance, anxiety, and fear in parenting 🩺 Awareness, support, and treating unresolved trauma 🔧 Parenting imperfections, rupture, and repair 🌸 Practicing self-compassion as a parent and survivor Key takeaway: You don’t need to be a perfect parent to be a good one. Parenting after birth trauma is hard, and awareness, repair, and compassion matter far more than getting it “right.” Why we’re re-releasing this episode: Because this conversation doesn’t expire. As our kids grow, so does our understanding of how trauma shapes us, and revisiting these topics can be an important part of healing. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    31 min
  6. Ep. 216: Placenta Previa, Accreta, NICU, and Finding Power After Repeated Birth Trauma feat. Kailee

    JAN 15

    Ep. 216: Placenta Previa, Accreta, NICU, and Finding Power After Repeated Birth Trauma feat. Kailee

    In this deeply moving Listener Series episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh is joined by Kailee, who shares her story of infertility, recurrent placenta previa, NICU stays, medical trauma, and ultimately surviving placenta accreta with a life-saving hysterectomy. Kailee walks us through two high-risk pregnancies marked by hemorrhage, emergency cesareans, prolonged antepartum hospitalizations, NICU stays, and profound grief, alongside moments of advocacy, empowerment, and healing. Her story highlights how trauma can live alongside gratitude, and how reclaiming your voice can be life-saving. This episode is especially meaningful for NICU parents, those navigating placenta complications, birth trauma survivors, and anyone grieving the birth experience, or future, that was taken from them. In this episode, we discuss: 💔 Infertility, PCOS, and the loneliness of unanswered medical questions 🩸 Placenta previa and the trauma of sudden hemorrhage 🚑 Emergency transfers, antepartum stays, and fear for survival 💭 The shock of hearing “miscarriage” language during a viable pregnancy 👶 Preterm birth at 31 weeks and a 30-day NICU stay 📉 Delayed bonding, CPTSD, anxiety, and postpartum grief 🌈 Grieving the pregnancy, birth, and moments you never got ✊ Learning to advocate for yourself in future pregnancies 🔁 Facing placenta previa again in a subsequent pregnancy 🧬 Placenta accreta/percreta and preparing for a hysterectomy 🙅‍♀️ The power of saying “no” and trusting your instincts 🩺 Multidisciplinary care and accreta delivery protocols 💗 Meeting your baby after trauma—and reclaiming that moment 🏥 A second NICU journey and coming home sooner than expected 🌧️ Holding empowerment and trauma at the same time 🕊️ Grieving future children while choosing survival 🛋️ The role of therapy, medication, boundaries, and journaling 📸 Why taking photos—even when it’s hard—matters ✨ Finding purpose, advocacy, and hope after medical trauma Key takeaway: A birth can be traumatic and empowering. Survival, advocacy, grief, and gratitude are allowed to coexist—and your story still matters, even when the ending looks different than you imagined. Listener Love: Kailee’s courage, honesty, and willingness to share the messy middle offers validation and hope to anyone walking through birth trauma, NICU life, or life after hysterectomy. If this episode resonated with you, you are not alone and healing does not require forgetting what you endured. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    52 min
  7. JAN 13

    Ep. 215: Giving Yourself Permission: Identity, Advocacy & Reclaiming Joy

    What does it really mean to give yourself permission, especially when you’ve been conditioned to put everyone else first? In this thoughtful and deeply resonant episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh is joined by Dr. George James, psychologist, speaker, executive coach, and author of I Give Myself Permission. With over a decade of shared history, Kayleigh and Dr. James reflect on growth, identity, trauma, and the invisible narratives that shape how we show up for ourselves, particularly after birth trauma. Dr. James shares how the pandemic, racial reckoning, leadership burnout, and family loss shaped his work and inspired his book. Together, they unpack why “just take care of yourself” is not only unhelpful, but often impossible without understanding the systems, identities, and stories we carry. This conversation is especially powerful for parents navigating birth trauma, clinicians supporting perinatal mental health, and anyone who feels stuck between survival and self-care. In this episode, we discuss: 🧠 How internal narratives shape what we believe we’re allowed to need 🔑 What “giving yourself permission” really means (and what it doesn’t) 🫧 Why self-care is more than bubble baths and catchphrases 🌍 Social stress, leadership stress, injustice stress, and family-of-origin stress 👩‍👧‍👦 Why parents, especially mothers, are taught to put themselves last 🤰How perinatal trauma reinforces harmful narratives like “the baby comes first” 🗣️Giving yourself permission to advocate for your body and your life 🪞 How identity and lived experience influence permission and self-worth ❤️ Rewriting family scripts around affection, care, and masculinity 😨 Facing fear, perfectionism, and shame in everyday moments 🔄 Why permission is both a mindset and an action 🪜 Taking half-steps when full steps aren’t accessible ⚖️ Acknowledging privilege while honoring that permission is still possible 🔍 Doing the deeper work underneath boundaries and self-care 🤍 Learning to pause, celebrate growth, and notice where permission already exists Key takeaway: Giving yourself permission is not about willpower or positivity, it’s about understanding the stories, systems, and stressors that shaped you, and choosing care anyway. Guest Info: Dr. George James Psychologist | Speaker | Executive Coach | Author 🌐 Website: georgetalks.com📘 Book: I Give Myself Permission (available wherever books are sold)📱 Social: @georgetalks🔗 More info: igivemyselfpermission.comIf this episode resonated with you: You are not failing at self-care. You may simply be carrying stories that once kept you safe. Awareness is the first step and permission can start small. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    35 min
  8. Ep. 214: High Risk Pregnancies, Cardioversion, & NICU Stays feat. Alex

    JAN 8

    Ep. 214: High Risk Pregnancies, Cardioversion, & NICU Stays feat. Alex

    In this powerful episode of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast, Kayleigh is joined by Alex, a mom of two and congenital heart disease survivor, who shares her journey through two high-risk pregnancies and two traumatic births. Alex opens up about living with complex congenital heart defects, undergoing open-heart surgery as an infant, and entering pregnancy knowing she would always be medically high-risk. Despite meticulous care and expert providers, both pregnancies took sudden, life-threatening turns, illustrating how trauma can exist even when everything is “managed well.” This episode explores the fear, grief, and lasting impact of emergency medical decisions, general anesthesia during birth, NICU life, and the heartbreak of realizing a redemptive birth may never come. In this episode, we discuss: 🫀 Living with congenital heart disease and lifelong cardiac care 🤰 Navigating pregnancy as a medically complex, high-risk patient 🩸 Subchorionic hematoma and sub-placental abruption 📉 Severe fetal growth restriction and constant monitoring 🚨 Sudden cardiac crisis at 28 weeks and rapid atrial fibrillation 🚑 Emergency transport, medical chaos, and lack of clear communication 🩺 Cardioversion during pregnancy 💉 Emergency C-section under general anesthesia 👩‍⚕️ Being both a healthcare worker and a NICU parent 🩹 Postpartum recovery after life-threatening birth trauma 🔁 Experiencing pregnancy and birth trauma again ❌ Grieving the loss of a redemptive birth experience 🤝 Healing through community, shared stories, and compassion ⚖️ Learning to hold grief and pride at the same time Key takeaway: Survival does not erase trauma. You can be deeply grateful your children are here and grieve how their stories began. Both deserve space. For more birth trauma content and a community full of love and support, head to my Instagram at @thebirthtrauma_mama. Learn more about the support and services I offer through The Birth Trauma Mama Therapy & Support Services. Disclaimer - The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance, views, or positions of The Birth Trauma Mama Podcast. The content shared is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as professional or medical advice and/or endorsement.

    39 min
4.9
out of 5
92 Ratings

About

Birth trauma is the dark and sometimes scary side of pregnancy & postpartum that no one wants to talk about. But, we're here to change that! I'm Kayleigh, a licensed therapist and birth trauma survivor, determined to bring birth trauma out of the shadows and into the light. When we talk about birth trauma, we take away its power and leave space for healing. Your birth trauma does not need to “happen for a reason." Birth trauma sucks and it’s okay to admit that. Join us as we navigate what it means to heal from birth trauma. You’ll hear from experts in the field as well as others who have experienced birth trauma. Storytelling and education are keys to raising awareness and better understanding how we heal trauma. We don’t do toxic positivity in this space, but you’ll definitely hear some dark humor. You’ll laugh and you’ll cry, but, most importantly, you’ll learn that you’re not alone and that healing is possible. Birth trauma is bullish*it, but your healing is not. 

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