The Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery Podcast

Anabaptist World and The Dismantling the Doctrine of Discovery Coalition

In this podcast, an Indigenous woman and a white settler woman — both Anabaptists — uncover the deep structure of colonization that systematically deprives Indigenous Peoples of their human rights today. This deep structure — called the Doctrine of Discovery— is rooted in church doctrines that originated in the15th century and that still justify current laws and policies that justify the removal of land from Indigenous Peoples. Together, Sarah Augustine and Sheri Hostetler started a coalition of Anabaptist people of faith that seek to dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery. Sarah is an activist and scholar, the descendant of the Tewa People, and a displaced person. Sheri is a Mennonite pastor in San Francisco and an activist.

  1. Aug 4

    Episode 50: Episode 1 - Working Towards Shalom - Interview with Laurens van Esch

    In this episode Sarah and Sheri talk with Laurens van Esch about St. Stephens University’s (SSU) Certificate in Reconciliation Studies program. This program was designed to equip settlers to live into relations of peace and friendship, and to take seriously the work of reconciliation. Learn more about this one of a kind theological program at the links below. Originally from the Netherlands, Dr. Laurens van Esch teaches history and political philosophy at St. Stephen's University, on the homeland of the Peskotomuhkati Nation in New Brunswick, Canada. Over the years, he has participated in various forms of Indigenous solidarity efforts through organizations such as Community Peacemaker Teams, Mennonite Church Canada, and the Canadian Friends Service Committee (Quakers). At St. Stephen's University, he currently serves as co-director of the Centre for Reconciliation Studies, which seeks to equip non-Indigenous people to commit to an ongoing process of reconciliation as invited by the Canadian Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Laurens loves to reflect on how the study of the past relates to the pursuit of justice in the present, and is particularly interested in the power of story, religion, and commemorative practices within emancipatory social movements. Show notes: St. Stephen’s University Certificate in Reconciliation Studies Program website: www.ssu.ca/certificate-in-reconciliation-studies Application page: www.ssu.ca/application Check out our online monthly trainings: tinyurl.com/Trainings2026 Sarah’s and my book: So That We and Our Children May Live: Following Jesus in Confronting the Climate Crisis Sarah’s and my Substack: So That We and Our Children May Live You can follow the Coalition to Dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery on Instagram (@coalitiontodismantle) and Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/dismantlediscovery)

    Episode 50: Episode 1 - Working Towards Shalom - Interview with Laurens van Esch
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In this podcast, an Indigenous woman and a white settler woman — both Anabaptists — uncover the deep structure of colonization that systematically deprives Indigenous Peoples of their human rights today. This deep structure — called the Doctrine of Discovery— is rooted in church doctrines that originated in the15th century and that still justify current laws and policies that justify the removal of land from Indigenous Peoples. Together, Sarah Augustine and Sheri Hostetler started a coalition of Anabaptist people of faith that seek to dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery. Sarah is an activist and scholar, the descendant of the Tewa People, and a displaced person. Sheri is a Mennonite pastor in San Francisco and an activist.

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