The Innovative Therapist

Dr. Shawn Hondorp, PhD, ABPP
The Innovative Therapist

Are you a therapist or a space holder that likes to think deeply and creatively about bringing healing to more people? Do you want to build trust with your body so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk - your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapy podcast where we cover topics like psychology, innovative methods for building body trust and healing, Internal Family Systems, weight inclusive approaches, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. My goal is to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳 Hit subscribe and tune in each week for deep talks, inspiration, and get ready for more connection to yourself and others so you can pursue a life of joy and creativity. Website: DrShawnHondorp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-hondorp-phd-abpp-24229412/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychology.of.wellness/

  1. 3 DAYS AGO

    Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius (Innovative Therapist Update)

    Episode 137: Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! This episode marks a small milestone for the show—I've officially upgraded my mic setup! After 137 episodes of recording with a free noise-canceling headset (and occasionally in my car on my phone), I finally invested in a proper mic and pop filter. Let’s just say my tech journey involved a bit of user error, but here we are, and I hope the sound quality is noticeably better for you! But that’s not the heart of today’s episode. Instead, we’re diving into a topic that’s been front and center in my mind lately: the delicate balance between joy, rest, and purpose in the work we do as therapists and healers. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: * A Business and Life Update: I’ll share a transparent look at where I am professionally and personally as 2024 comes to a close. Reflecting on the past year helps me process lessons learned and set intentions for the future. * The Challenge of Balancing Rest and Passion: When you truly love your work, carving out time for rest can feel tricky (or even counterintuitive). I’ll talk about my ongoing journey with this balance and what’s worked (and hasn’t). * The Zone of Genius Concept in Action: I’ll discuss how I’m applying the idea of working in your Zone of Genius—not just professionally, but in everyday life—and what it’s teaching me about alignment and joy. * Money and Meaningful Work: Money is a theme that keeps popping up in my reflections and conversations. While I’m not diving deeply into it in this episode, I’m previewing plans for upcoming episodes in 2025 that will explore the relationship between money, worth, and sustainable joy in our work. * A Look Ahead: I’ll share my plans for taking a rest period as we pause the podcast over the holidays, what rest looks like for me right now, and some ideas for upcoming episodes when we return. * Living a Big Life: You'll hear a bit about this Marvelous Mrs. Maisel clip and what I love so much about it. And what a big life looks like to me. Why This Episode Matters This episode is a chance for us to take a pause together, reflect on the intersection of healing work, creativity, and rest, and celebrate the progress we’ve made. If you’ve ever felt torn between your love for your work and your need for downtime—or wondered how to tap more deeply into your gifts—this one’s for you. Resources Mentioned: Free PDF with ideas for Creative Ways to Make Money as a Therapist Tune In Grab a cup of coffee (or your beverage of choice) and join me for this honest, reflective, and slightly vulnerable episode. Let’s explore how we can continue to show up in the work we were called to do—joyfully, meaningfully, and with plenty of room for rest. Listen to the episode now, and let me know your thoughts! What does rest look like for you at this stage in your journey? How are you leaning into your Zone of Genius? Drop me a message or share your reflections—I’d love to hear from you. Here’s to a restorative end to 2024 and an inspired start to 2025! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams.

  2. DEC 9

    What I did with my Halloween Candy How this Relates to Food Addiction

    Episode 136. I'm feeling more called to share things about the food relationship again lately, which has been kind of fun. I talk about this stuff all day every day with many of my 1 on 1 clients, and sometimes I forget that it isn't second nature to people, since I've spent many a year focusing on improving my relationship to food and body for myself. Today's episode walks you through what I did with my Halloween candy recently and why. It was also an opportunity to reflect on my business and the Body Respect Program I ran a few years ago. What to Expect in this Episode I cover the following: * Why I felt compelled to share this episode today * What I did with my Halloween candy this year and why * My FB live about this same topic November 2020! It's cringey! I was super nervous * Reflecting on the Body Respect Program and my thoughts about updating it with IFS * Some of the small ways my opinions have changed about food addiction and how I might tweak my prior statement from my FB live, "food addiction is a real thing" * The extreme polarization on food addiction * What I think is behind my desire for food (Check out the "I want a big life" clip here) * How to navigate the nuance with eating decisions and be honest with yourself * And more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams. * I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US * My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 * If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 * Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

    11 min
  3. DEC 2

    Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 2)

    Episode 135. Today's episode is Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with Becca Gibson. Please make sure to go back and listen to Part 1 first. In this part of the conversation we dive into the good stuff. The ways that therapists and other helpers accidentally cause harm, how to avoid this, and some of the things Becca really wishes people knew about people who have diagnoses of ADHD and Autism. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. Let's dive in! What to Expect in This Episode We cover the following: * Some of the many ways that therapists and others can cause harm for people with ADHD and Autism * Becca's thoughts on the requirement of a formal diagnosis to confirm ADHD or Autism * What therapists can to do avoid this harm * What psychodrama is and how it can be therapeutic, particularly for experiences with trauma (including how it brings a somatic component that can be unique compared to other somatic therapies) * What psychodrama can look like and how it can be used in individual and group settings * Becca's insights into community building, group work and how it can do things that individual work simply cannot * Becca's process with openly sharing her ADHD and Autism diagnoses and what went into that decision * And so much more! Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’”  Resources Mentioned * YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ * Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based * Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com * Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to ...

    30 min
  4. NOV 25

    Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 1)

    Episode 134. I am so incredibly grateful for this conversation. I'm especially grateful for Becca's knowledge and openness about their personal and professional experiences in this realm. I'm also so glad I live in a time when therapists can come on a podcast and be open about their personal experiences. What a freaking gift. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. This conversation is a 2-parter, filled with information, resources and interwoven with Becca's story of becoming a therapist and late diagnosis of ADHD and autism. You're going to love it. What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: * The work Becca does with clients, professional trainings and continuing education and how their non-linear path here * The ways autism and ADHD are understood now, and how Becca has seen these understanding shift over the past few decades * The true definition of neurodivergence * What it means that autism is a dynamic disability * Why we don't use the term Asperger's syndrome anymore * And so much more! (Be sure to tune in next week for Part 2 where we dive into the harm that can be caused by therapists and others to those with Autism and ADHD, and how to avoid this, psychodrama, Becca's other creative joys, and so much more) Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’”  Resources Mentioned * YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ * Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based * Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com * Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings

    27 min
  5. NOV 11

    How to Fall In Love With Yourself with Elise Kutt of ModBettie Photography

    Episode 132. Well this conversation has been a long time coming and it was sooo worth the wait. Elise Kutt is so creative, so authentic, and such an innovative trailblazer when it comes to photography as healing, building businesses that truly help people, and building diverse and supportive communities. Elise shares so much knowledge as she shares her story with pursuing her creative passions, how she learned and continues to learn to listen to her body, and what has guided her along this journey. She's built a business and a life that involves traveling the world with her closest friends and doing what she loves, so that alone makes her someone I really want to listen and learn from. I loved her quote about an early failure and what she learned after finding photography: "I knew I wanted to do something creative every day for the rest of my life." - Elise Kutt If this isn't a story about the power of creativity... I don't know what would be. Enjoy this incredible conversation with Elise Kutt of ModBettie! What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: * Her experience building some incredibly innovative businesses and helping so many heal in a variety of ways and see themselves and their bodies differently * How listening to her desires and responding to community needs has built such a large empire * How self portraits helped her fall in love with herself for the first time * What the journey of self love really looks like and how a self portrait practice can help you along yours * What led to Elise's major aha moment (Hint: it involved listening to her body and making a very large and brave decision with her business) * Her in the moment creative idea with how you can harness the power of listening to your body exactly as she did * Where can boudoir sessions or photography be harmful? What you should be aware of * How Elise built a very intentionally inclusive community (this answer really stuck with me) * The way Elise got into co-hosting retreats and how Human Design has supported her in growing the business in the way that's right for her * How Elise is going to spend her sabbatical year and what she means when she says personal projects * Her description of creative flow state and what it does for our brains * And so much more! Who is Elise Kutt? Multi-passionate entrepreneur, speaker, educator, photographer, boutique owner With over 15 years experience behind the camera, Elise Kutt has established herself as a trailblazer of the industry, opening her portrait studio, Mod Bettie in 2014 followed by her lingerie boutique, Naughty Bettie in 2018. She’s co-hosted over 20 retreats around the world with entrepreneur bestie Wandering Roots, was named west Michigan’s Remarkable Woman of the Year in 2023, and continues to build community around her alternative wellness lifestyle brand. You can join the free online community on Facebook called #SquadBettie here. Wanting more support beyond these podcasts?

  6. NOV 4

    The Story of the Inaugural Innovative Therapist Retreat!

    Episode 131. The 1st Annual Innovative Therapist Retreat is in the books! It's been almost 3 weeks, and it's time to share how it went. This episode is more about my experience hosting and some early reflections. More later on the healing power of community, and other's experiences. If you are thinking of creating something innovative, this episode is for you! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: * The report on the Inaugural Innovative Therapist Retreat! (please listen to this previous episode about Creating Something Useful for the full retreat creation backstory) * My intention with this event and what it involved * What I witnessed in the participants * Guidance on how to decide what to create outside of the 1 on 1 model of therapy practice (including how Human Design can inform how each of us may be different in this) * Why I think I got super sick after the retreat * What I've learned about myself in the 3 weeks since it's been done * The pros and cons of hosting a retreat from a business perspective (and the answer to the question, "Did it feel like a paid vacation for me?") * And so much more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US * My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 * If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 * Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

    16 min
  7. OCT 28

    How Thinking About Calories Negatively Impacts Our Health

    Episode 130. This episode is the first I've talked about my relationship to food in a while, but I woke up feeling compelled to share on this topic, so I went with it. I cover how our relationship with food can have parallels to our relationship to money and how all of this can impact our ability to trust ourselves and pursue work that feels aligned and good to us. I hope you find it helpful! Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: * What I had for breakfast that morning (and why) - I promise there's a point to this share * How my mindset has shifted around food (in the past, and how this continues to impact me now) * Parallels between our relationship to food and our relationship with money * How the definition of autonomous motivation applies to food, money, and other things and how pursuing "freedom of choice, without excessive pressure" can impact us positively when it comes to lasting motivation * The impact of focusing on calories in versus out * How working on gut health can help with symptoms like headaches, skin health, etc. in surprising ways * And other musings! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US * My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 * If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 * Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

  8. OCT 21

    How to Find Your Zone of Genius

    Episode 129. I have loved this quote from Howard Thurman for years: "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." The concept of Zone of Genius was introduced to me 2 years ago and I find it so incredibly helpful. So today, I'll be sharing it with you. Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: * What is Zone of Genius and why should you care about it? * Where I initially learned about it * What are the 4 Zones to understand, and what does it mean if you are stuck in your Zone of Competence or Excellence * What are some questions to ask yourself to help figure out your Zone of Genius * How can you move towards working more in your Zone of Genius? Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US * My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 * If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 * Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

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Are you a therapist or a space holder that likes to think deeply and creatively about bringing healing to more people? Do you want to build trust with your body so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk - your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapy podcast where we cover topics like psychology, innovative methods for building body trust and healing, Internal Family Systems, weight inclusive approaches, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. My goal is to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳 Hit subscribe and tune in each week for deep talks, inspiration, and get ready for more connection to yourself and others so you can pursue a life of joy and creativity. Website: DrShawnHondorp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-hondorp-phd-abpp-24229412/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychology.of.wellness/

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