100 episodes

In each episode, we are going to work to give you one easy to understand concept and tell you at least one story that illustrates the concept being put into practice. The concept will be easy to understand, but it will require your very best self and a good deal of practice over time if you are going to implement it.

The Leader's Journey Podcast Jim Herrington & Trisha Taylor

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.9 • 82 Ratings

In each episode, we are going to work to give you one easy to understand concept and tell you at least one story that illustrates the concept being put into practice. The concept will be easy to understand, but it will require your very best self and a good deal of practice over time if you are going to implement it.

    The Misuse and Abuse of Authority - Part Two

    The Misuse and Abuse of Authority - Part Two

    Join Jim and Trisha as they discuss how assigned authority affects our lives with their guest Ryan Donovan. Take the time to listen to the hard questions being asked about how the role of authority in today's world has shifted and changed. 
    Ryan Donovan is a licensed counselor who lives in Austin, Texas who loves the outdoors. He plays fastpitch softball in his free time, and his life experience has equipped him in some really important ways to join in this conversation. Ryan is also involved in coaching with The Leader's Journey.
    Conversation Overview:
    Recognizing Blind Spots Assigned Authority The Paradigm Shift  Connection vs. Commitment Asking the Right Questions The Effects of a Double Bind Stewardship of Authority
    Ryan Donovan at The Leaders Journey
    Ryan Donovan's - Licensed Professional Counselor

    Church Cares and the book "Becoming a Church That Cares Well for the Abused"
    GRACE - Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment
    A Church Called Tov
    When Narcissism Comes to Church
    Bully Pulpit
    Matt Tebbe's substack

    • 34 min
    The Misuse and Abuse of Authority - Part One

    The Misuse and Abuse of Authority - Part One

    Authority is inherent in leadership roles, and that inherent authority can be misused and abused. In part one of this series, Jim and Trisha discuss the reality of abuse, the questions surrounding it, and the way leaders are called to respond. 
    Conversation Overview
    None of This is New Authority is Inherent in Leadership What is Authority and Where Does it Come From? The Legitimate Uses of Authority A Focus on Spiritual Abuse The Impact Outweighs the Intention Responding to the Critical Mirror Conflict and Disagreement vs. Abuse Taking a Victim Centric Approach  
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    Power Dynamics for Trustworthy and Transformative Leaders
    Power Dynamics and Conflict: A conversation for trustworthy and transformative leaders
    The End of Leadership by Barbara Kellerman
    Bully Pulpit: Confronting the Problem of Spiritual Abuse in the Church
    When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse

    • 36 min
    Engaging with Artificial Intelligence with Curiosity and Intentionality

    Engaging with Artificial Intelligence with Curiosity and Intentionality

    In this episode, dive into the fascinating world of artificial intelligence (AI) and its impact on various aspects of life, including leadership, sermon writing, and more. Join us as we explore the innovative ways in which AI is being integrated into everyday tasks and decision-making processes.

    For this special podcast, Jim and Trisha hear some insightful points from multiple guests on how they use AI and how they have seen it impact the world around them.

    Podcasts guests include

    Scott Hescht is enthusiastic advocate for AI integration into various fields, Scott brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the discussion. Scott offers unique insights into the practical applications of AI in different contexts, including in his ministry as the pastor at The Haven Community Church in Spring, TX.

    Rich Braaksma: is the Regional Mission Leader for Resonate Global Mission in Western Canada and part-time pastor of The Road Church in Calgary, Alberta.

    Leani du Toit: Trauma-informed spiritual, cross-cultural, and leadership coach with a diverse range of experiences.

    Nathan Herrington: Founder of Nathan Herrington Coaching, delving into AI applications in coaching and content creation.

    Tim Rotman: Pastor at Zumbro Lutheran Church in Rochester, Minnesota, sharing his experiences with using AI in sermon writing.

    Conversation Overview:

    AI in Research and Ministry Beyond the Information Being Curious and Cautious Using AI in Content Creation Making Connections with Large Language Models

    Ezra Klein and Ethan Mollick: How Should I Be Using AI Right Now?

    AI Will Shape Your Soul

    The Haven Community Church

    Resonate Global Mission

    Nathan Herrington Coaching

    Zumbro Lutheran Church

    The Road Church

    Leani du Toit Coaching

    • 54 min
    The Equations of Ministry: Imagining Beyond the Traditional Church Model

    The Equations of Ministry: Imagining Beyond the Traditional Church Model

    Jim talks with Mike Whang about how his shift away from the traditional church model opened up avenues of ministry that can be limited for those in Christian leadership. Mike explains how working out the equations of ministry, the balancing of values, the realities of day to day life, and the needs of the Church, has been a challenge and a blessing as he grows in his walk with God and leadership position.  
    Mike Whang is an ordained elder of the United Methodist Church. He serves Oikon and Wesley as an extension minister of the Texas Annual Conference. He received his M. Div from Duke Divinity School. His favorite foods are rice, kimchi, and eggs. Raised in Los Angeles, he and his wife, Lisa are raising native Texan daughters of Korean descent.

    Conversation Overview

    A Shift in Approach Pivoting From a Local Church to a Ministry Organization Gaining Margin by Stepping away from Sunday Centric Model Integrating Faith with Life The Upsides and Downsides of Change Personal Responsibility as a Follower of Christ Limitations of Traditional Structures Different Paths for Spiritual Journeys


    Nomads in the Church: The Leader's Journey Podcast with Terry Walling

    • 31 min
    Playing Politics: Leading in an Election Year, part 1.

    Playing Politics: Leading in an Election Year, part 1.

    On this episode of The Leader’s Journey Podcast, Trisha talks with Mac McCarthy and Nate Pyle about how the election year has affected their congregations and the ways they are navigating that social landscape within their churches. Listen to this first of several podcasts in 2024 as they discuss the unique ways they have each worked with the leadership in their churches in order to guide their congregations to focus on building bridges and communicating with grace. 
    Nate Pyle is a pastor, author, and coach. As a pastor, Nate has served as the pastor of Christ’s Community Church in Fishers, Indiana since 2008. During that time, Nate began learning and practicing skills related to adaptive leadership, congregational revitalization, family systems, emotional maturity, and spiritual formation. He has a passion to see the church become a learning community growing its capacity to navigate difference, hard conversations, and congregational change. 
    Mac McCarthy has been in Christian ministry for over 15 years.  As a pastor, practitioner, and coach, he is passionate about equipping leaders by integrating missional theology, spiritual formation, family systems, and adaptive leadership to navigate congregational change.  Having served in a variety of roles, Mac is currently the Lead Pastor at Crosspoint Community Church in the western suburbs of Milwaukee where has been since 2008.  He received his B.A. from Bethel University, his M.Div from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, and is ordained with the Christian & Missionary Alliance.  Mac is also a CrossFit coach and enjoys helping people pursue holistic health. 


    Conversation Overview

    Political conversation in a Systems Context Getting Your Hands Dirty Political vs. Partisan Being a Minister of Reconciliation Conflating Religious Doctrine and Political Politics Anxiety and Emotional Maturity Capacity Building and Discipleship It Doesn't Always Work Core Conviction and Guiding Principles  


    Nate Pyle on The Leader's Journey

    4 Americas: The Stories and the Gospel - Nate Pyle SermonsMac McCarthy on The Leader's Journey

    Luke Bretherton on Democracy and Christianity

    Crosspoint Community Church

    Christ Community Church

    • 42 min
    Maintaining Our Boundaries

    Maintaining Our Boundaries

    Trisha and Jim continue their insightful discussion on boundaries in this week's podcast. Join them as they discuss your questions about boundaries and the benefits and struggles of implementing them in personal and professional leadership roles. 
    Conversation Overview
    Flourishing Within Boundaries Boundaries and Emotional Maturity Working Within a Broken System The Cost of Boundaries Managing Guilt Christ's Example of Boundaries Staying On Your Side of the Line and Allowing God to Work Communication is Key Creating a Culture of Healthy Boundaries The Value of Pain

    • 36 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
82 Ratings

82 Ratings

RevP2023 ,

Practical, helpful insights for ministry

I found this podcast by accident and when I listened to the first episode it resonated so deeply, I contacted Trisha. After 20 years of church ministry, I finally have a clergy coach who understands church systems and helps me chart a course for action and evaluate the outcomes. The podcast covers many topics that are applicable to church systems and provides guidance and insight for variety of situations. I’m grateful I found TLJ.

Jess Sales ,

The Real Deal

As a rookie in ministry, I would not have been able to stay the course as effectively without the wise counsel of Jim and Trisha. I’m thankful to be coached by them through The Leader’s Journey, and also tune in to each podcast as it’s released. One-to-one, I’ve experienced them to be people of the highest integrity, who lead with grit, authenticity, candor and kindness — and this so clearly carries over into their podcast discussions. If you’re in need of guidance, wisdom and practical skills as you navigate the terrain of leadership in any context — look no further!

ggrdft ,

the single most important podcast out there for anyone trying to live a big life and make an impact

This podcast is not just for leaders but for anyone seeking to grow their emotional maturity and capacity to live their best possible life. Words cannot express how invaluable this podcast has been to me as a husband, pastor, and human being. There are several episodes I have listened to a half-dozen times, and I have shared them with my wife, my church team, and friends on numerous occasions. Jim and Trisha are wise, funny, and deeply faithful people. It is very clear that their wisdom grows from their practice and commitment to the tools and ideas they talk about. They have a gift for presenting "simple but complex ideas" in a way that is both challenging and affirming. Without a doubt, this is the single most important podcast out there for anyone trying to live a big life and make an impact.

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