150 episodes

Very Bad Therapy is a closer look at what goes wrong in the counseling room - and how it could go better - as told by the clients who survived.

Very Bad Therapy Ben Fineman and Caroline Wiita

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.3 • 323 Ratings

Very Bad Therapy is a closer look at what goes wrong in the counseling room - and how it could go better - as told by the clients who survived.

    147. Termination Session

    147. Termination Session

    Thank you for listening!

    • 45 min
    146. Patreon Selects: Carrie-Ben Therapy (aka CBT 2.0)

    146. Patreon Selects: Carrie-Ben Therapy (aka CBT 2.0)

    Carrie and Ben create their own model of therapy. Goal setting! Psychoeducation! Exploitation and worrisome sales tactics! What does it say about psychotherapy when our progressively cynical efforts to develop a modality end up mirroring some of the norms in our field? This episode is evidence-based and supported by neuroscience.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 5:13
    Part One: 5:13 – 1:08:54
    Part Two: 1:08:54 – 1:11:44
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Mental health clinical exams’ evident adherence to industry standards for testing How to Spot Hype in the Field of Psychotherapy The efficacy of non-directive supportive therapy for adult depression: a meta-analysis Insight Exchange: Guide to Selecting a Counsellor The Radical Therapist #094 – Response-Based Practice w/ Dr. Allan Wade Organized Abandonment and Systemic Harm: A Conversation with Therapist & Educator Kimberly Chiswell

    • 1 hr 11 min
    145. Patreon Selects: Book Review - All Therapy Books

    145. Patreon Selects: Book Review - All Therapy Books

    All therapy books have an oddly similar message: *This* form of therapy is the one that truly matters, and *this* science/philosophy/whatever is the key to understanding how human psychology actually works. These narratives can’t all be true, so are they all simply b******t instead? We read through Scott Alexander’s legendary blog post, Book Review: All Therapy Books, and discuss whether therapy gurus really believe the answers they are selling.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 10:36
    Part One: 10:36 – 1:29:35
    Part Two: 1:29:35 – 1:31:55
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    ‘The Body Keeps the Score’ offers uncertain science in the name of self-help. It’s not alone. Book Review: All Therapy Books  Astral Codex Ten  Slate Star Codex  An Investigation of Self-Assessment Bias in Mental Health Providers 

    • 1 hr 31 min
    143. Patreon Selects: Fun With the Psychology Today Profile Generator

    143. Patreon Selects: Fun With the Psychology Today Profile Generator

    Life can be hard at times. Do you want to feel more visible and important in your relationships? Are you curious about why every Psychology Today profile looks the same? We get silly with the incredible Therapist Generator and learn all about treating sunroof addition with truckload therapy and registered turtleneck therapy. The therapist profiles are fake, but our desire to meet you where you are on your journey is very real.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 26:05
    Part One: 26:05 – 1:14:55
    Part Two: 1:14:55 – 1:17:35
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Therapist Generator Kaylen Dwyer: Twitter This Person Does Not Exist Go open: A plea for transparency in psychotherapy Talking more about talking cures: cognitive behavioural therapy and informed counsent Informed Consent in Psychotherapy: Implications of Evidence-Based Practice Evidence-Based Practice and Psychological Treatments: The Imperatives of Informed Consent Informed consent for psychotherapy: still not routine

    • 1 hr 17 min
    142. VBT Study Hall: Client Testimonials and Reviews

    142. VBT Study Hall: Client Testimonials and Reviews

    Social proof has become a crucial element of consumer decision making in the Internet era. So why don’t the vast majority of therapists ask their clients to give testimonials or leave reviews? We ponder the frustrating tension between psychotherapy ethics codes and literature on marketing in the 21st century, and we do our best to advise therapists about what to do in response to a bad online review.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Work and Identity in an Era of Precarious Employment: How Workers Respond to “Personal Branding” Discourse To Solicit or Not to Solicit? Key Issues to Consider Before Soliciting Testimonials and Reviews from Patients How Did It Go? A Comparison of Experience and Outcome-Focused Online Reviews on Treatment Expectations Change My Mind: The Impact of Online Client Ratings and Reviews on Perceptions of Therapists Yelped: Psychotherapy in the time of online consumer reviews. Digital Marketing Excellence: Planning, Optimizing, and Integrating Online Marketing The Truth About Using Testimonials to Market Your Practice Scope and Ethics of Psychologists’ Use of Client Testimonials on Professional Websites Navigating the ethics of soliciting reviews for mental health professionals Responding to a Yelp review can cost you Psychotherapists in danger: The ethics of responding to client threats, stalking, and harassment. New Orleans psychologist sues over negative Angie’s List comments

    • 1 hr 20 min
    141. “Not All Christians…” (with Josh Foster, LCPC)

    141. “Not All Christians…” (with Josh Foster, LCPC)

    What is religious trauma, and why do some therapists refuse to work with clients who use that language? In today’s episode, Jeremy speaks about his experiences with therapists who felt the need to defend their faith in session, and we are joined by Josh Foster, LCPC to discuss the complicated intersection between evangelical Christianity and ethical psychotherapy.
     
    Thank you for listening. To support the show and receive access to regular bonus episodes, check out the Very Bad Therapy Patreon community. Today’s episode is sponsored by Ben Caldwell Labs – training, advocacy, books, and additional resources for counselors and therapists. Today’s episode is also sponsored by Sentio Counseling Center – high-quality, low-fee online therapy in California with immediate availability for new clients.
     
    Introduction: 0:00 – 11:11
    Part One: 11:11 – 50:09
    Part Two: 50:09 – 1:28:44
     
    Very Bad Therapy: Website / Facebook / Bookshelf / Tell Us Your Story
     
    Show Notes:
    Support the Secular Therapy Project Jeremy Magin: Website Josh Foster: Website / Email Religious Trauma Syndrome

    • 1 hr 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.3 out of 5
323 Ratings

323 Ratings

Rufels J ,

Happy for you but sad as well

Thank you both for this. After I graduated, I still felt very lost in this field and had a lot of questions that I think you guys explored. I listened to all the episodes in like a year or less😅 and can say that it's helped me feel more at ease in the field. Ben I hope you are able to find the joy in this field because I so understand those feelings. I'm still finding it myself. Hope to see y'all back again some time.

Biyyk ,

Cannot recommend

In the last episode the hosts just talk on and on about not liking their own podcast. Young people: not everything needs to be said aloud.

NoJamCity ,

Hosts are likely giving very bad therapy

Podcast had a great premise, but unfortunately the hosts lack the experience and ability to appropriately research or cover the topics brought up by clients on the podcast. They also talk too much, and Ben in particular spends more time talking about what he thinks a client is probably feeling rather than allowing space for the guest to answer. The strongest episodes are when they bring on actual experts to reflect on the issues brought up by the guest. Based on this podcast, I would never want therapy with either of these hosts, especially Ben, because they lack nuance, expertise, professionalism, and empathy.

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