Alpha Exchange

Dean Curnutt
Alpha Exchange

The Alpha Exchange is a podcast series launched by Dean Curnutt to explore topics in financial markets, risk management and capital allocation in the alternatives industry. Our in depth discussions with highly established industry professionals seek to uncover the nuanced and complex interactions between economic, monetary, financial, regulatory and geopolitical sources of risk. We aim to learn from the perspective our guests can bring with respect to the history of financial and business cycles, promoting a better understanding among listeners as to how prior periods provide important context to present day dynamics. The “price of risk” is an important topic. Here we engage experts in their assessment of risk premium levels in the context of uncertainty. Is the level of compensation attractive? Because Central Banks have played so important a role in markets post crisis, our discussions sometimes aim to better understand the evolution of monetary policy and the degree to which the real and financial economy will be impacted. An especially important area of focus is on derivative products and how they interact with risk taking and carry dynamics. Our conversations seek to enlighten listeners, for example, as to the factors that promoted the February melt-down of the VIX complex. We do NOT ask our guests for their political opinions. We seek a better understanding of the market impact of regulatory change, election outcomes and events of geopolitical consequence. Our discussions cover markets from a macro perspective with an assessment of risk and opportunity across asset classes. Within equity markets, we may explore the relative attractiveness of sectors but will NOT discuss single stocks.

  1. 5 DAYS AGO

    Ali Samadi, Managing Director, Equity Derivatives, Nomura Securities

    The “flow desk” as it’s often called on the sell-side is about repeatability and scale in the service of institutional clients. It’s a competitive business with not a lot of margin for error, especially in a product like equity options where being on the wrong side of a misbehaving Greek could spell trouble. With this in mind, it was great to welcome Ali Samadi, Head of Flow Equity Derivative Sales at Nomura Securities International to the podcast. Our conversation explores aspects of the salesperson / client interaction that make a relationship stick. Namely, Ali suggests that first and foremost, one must understand the client’s objective and tailor the coverage experience accordingly. As a derivatives expert, he sees opportunities to utilize the volatility surface not just in the construction of trades, but also as a source of information, as it may provide clues as to where investor interest is concentrated. We also talk about addressing the inherent negative selection risk for a sell-side desk. This includes the inevitable need to manage client expectations on what size can be transacted at a given price, especially when markets turn especially illiquid as they did on August 5th. Lastly, we spend some time talking about training younger professionals, a pursuit Ali is passionate about. He believes the best way to help junior colleagues advance is to have them review trades in order to develop a sense as to what the right price is. Along with this, he encourages those in the early parts of their careers to diversify their skill sets, learning at least something about other products and assets classes. I hope you enjoy this episode of the Alpha Exchange, my conversation with Ali Samadi.

    52 min
  2. DEC 10

    Michael Green, CFA, Portfolio Manager, Chief Strategist, Simplify Asset Management

    A major theme of Alpha Exchange podcasts over the years has been the impact that financial products that live and breathe within the markets have on asset clearing prices. Events like the crash of 1987, the GFC, the 2018 XIV event or the unwind of short variance exposure in March 2020 come to mind as examples. More recently, the substantial growth of leveraged ETF products has gotten a lot of attention, as a potentially amplifying factor with respect to underlying asset volatility. With this in mind, it was a pleasure to welcome Mike Green, a partner and Chief Strategist at Simplify Asset Management back to the Alpha Exchange. Our conversation drills down on leveraged products written on MSTR, the bitcoin buying company. Mike first describes how a leveraged product’s rebalancing requirement resembles a short straddle, buying when the underlying rises and selling when it falls. He next makes the case that the two times leveraged long products, MSTU and MSTX, are unique in that they are large in size and written on an underlying that is extremely asset. This creates the potential for vol amplifying feedback loops that result from the extremely large daily re-hedging. Mike believes the leveraged complex has contributed to the large premium of MSTR to the value of its bitcoin holdings. We talk as well about the costs being borne by the ETFs who have been forced to utilize the options market as the swap providers have reportedly limited the amount of leverage they are willing to provide. I hope you enjoy this episode of the Alpha Exchange, my conversation with Mike Green.

    55 min
  3. DEC 2

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 4)

    Welcome back to the last installment of “20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price”. This 4-part series has been geared towards illustrating how the equity derivative salestrader can be a meaningful part of getting two institutional counterparties to “yes” with respect to the transfer of option risk. The salestrader, sitting between the trader and the client, can quarterback the process by appreciating the context of the trade and contributing insights on the risk profile of it. Context is about the client, the underlying stock, the trade motivation and the risk environment. The risk profile is about the many nuances of different option trades and what they imply for how the sell-side trader will think about pricing and providing capital. In today’s highly electronified markets, prices are streamed continuously by tireless bots with neither faces nor names. But risk transfer still occurs the old-fashioned way as well – and these voice trades require superb communication, led by the salestrader. If you are executing upon “20 Things”, you are adding alpha to this process. Below are Things 16-20. I hope this 4-part series has been interesting and you’ve enjoyed the perspective. 16. What is the bid /offer is in vol terms? For example, if an option has 30 cents of vega and the bid / offer is 50 cents, the vol bid/offer is 1.6 vols. Bid / offers on long dated options often seem wide in terms of prices, but are not really in terms of implied volatility. This can be useful in defending your trader’s price. 17. Look at the combo. Check the implied vol on the put vs. the implied vol on the call of corresponding strike. Are they reasonably the same? If not, there could be a borrow issue or a dividend issue. When put vol is much higher than call vol, a borrow issue is often present. In instances where market is forecasting an increase in dividends, it is also the case that the put vol will be higher than the call vol. 18. Understand div risk. On long dated options, dividend risk is a big issue – especially for high delta options where the stock hedge is large. Example: buying the Jan’25 35 puts in VZ carries a great deal of dividend risk – if we buy the puts and buy stock we are effectively buying the dividend stream which, if cut, is painful. Use the Bloomberg function DVD and BDVD. 19. Know put/call parity. C = S + P = PV (K) – PV (Divs) and be prepared to use it to explain pricing to accounts especially on deep in the money or out of the money options. 20. Lastly, have an opinion on every single price you get. You should have a feeling of what you think the price should be before you get a price. Understand that traders are responsible for prices, but that your informed input is very important.

    15 min
  4. NOV 26

    Rocky Fishman, Founder and CEO, Asym 500 LLC

    It was a pleasure to welcome Rocky Fishman, Founder and CEO of derivatives advisory firm Asym 500 back to the Alpha Exchange. An area of specialty for Rocky is evaluating systematic trading strategies, like vol targeting, that live and breathe within equity markets and potentially sponsor feedback loops. The focus of our discussion, the growing universe of leveraged ETFs, a unique product set that has been on my mind and that Rocky has recently done a deep dive on. We start our conversation by revisiting the August 5th VIX event that saw the S&P options market turn highly illiquid as the prices quoted for deep out of the money puts reached unheard of levels. For Rocky, while the event came and went, there are lessons, namely that the tails can exert themselves suddenly. With respect to leveraged ETFs, Rocky sizes the US universe as $135bln in assets under management for leveraged and inverse products, $120bln of which is in equity products. He walks through how both the leveraged long and inverse products on the same underlying, non-intuitively, are responsible for buying or selling in the same direction on the same day. These amplifying effects, unlike efforts to map the market’s gamma profile are unambiguous. As such, they are worth keeping a close eye on, especially as the ETF issuer’s daily required rebalancing efforts take place near the close of trading. Here, Rocky does observe both more vol and volume in the market near the end of the day. I hope you enjoy this episode of the Alpha Exchange, my conversation with Rocky Fishman.

    46 min
  5. NOV 26

    20 Things to Do Before You Ask for a Price (Part 3)

    Welcome to Part 3 of “20 Things to do Before You Ask for a Price”. To review, “20 Things” is a to-do list I developed more than 2 decades ago while running a derivative sales team. The desk committed a substantial amount of capital in pursuit of business, which made it easy to win trades but also easy to lose money in the process of winning those trades. 20 Things was about playing defense and offense simultaneously by requiring the salesperson to be an active part of the price discovery process. While the trader would ultimately make the price and bear the risk, the salesperson, through 20 Things, could be a valuable part of the process. The result: better risk taking and a more sustainable business. Here are things 11-15. I hope you enjoy and find this useful. I wish you an excellent Thanksgiving holiday. 11. Corporate action? Is this stock a deal name or subject to some other corporate action? Use the CACS function on Bloomberg to look for corporate actions. Deal names can have very unique implied distributions and are difficult to provide risk capital into in option trades. 12. Evaluate the vol. What is the implied volatility of the name? How does it compare to realized volatility? How does the name spread versus index or sub-index volatility? Run the GV function. 13. What does strike skew look like? The skew may be indicative of the amount of gap risk potential in the name. Run Bloomberg command OVDV SKEW and look at the spread in risk reversals on the OMON screen. 14. What is the shape of the term structure? This can give a sense as to how much the market is willing to pay for an event (ie, earnings or an FDA announcement). Run Bloomberg command OVDV TRMS. 15. What is the vol risk in the trade? Is this a long-dated option on a high-priced stock? If so, you should know what the vega of the option is. Example: 10k F Jan’25 11 strike calls have far less vega than 10k MSFT Jan’27 430 call. These very different options call for different kinds of dialogue with the trader and client. Use the Bloomberg OV function.

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The Alpha Exchange is a podcast series launched by Dean Curnutt to explore topics in financial markets, risk management and capital allocation in the alternatives industry. Our in depth discussions with highly established industry professionals seek to uncover the nuanced and complex interactions between economic, monetary, financial, regulatory and geopolitical sources of risk. We aim to learn from the perspective our guests can bring with respect to the history of financial and business cycles, promoting a better understanding among listeners as to how prior periods provide important context to present day dynamics. The “price of risk” is an important topic. Here we engage experts in their assessment of risk premium levels in the context of uncertainty. Is the level of compensation attractive? Because Central Banks have played so important a role in markets post crisis, our discussions sometimes aim to better understand the evolution of monetary policy and the degree to which the real and financial economy will be impacted. An especially important area of focus is on derivative products and how they interact with risk taking and carry dynamics. Our conversations seek to enlighten listeners, for example, as to the factors that promoted the February melt-down of the VIX complex. We do NOT ask our guests for their political opinions. We seek a better understanding of the market impact of regulatory change, election outcomes and events of geopolitical consequence. Our discussions cover markets from a macro perspective with an assessment of risk and opportunity across asset classes. Within equity markets, we may explore the relative attractiveness of sectors but will NOT discuss single stocks.

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