The Adrenaline Zone

Sandra Magnus and James "Sandy" Winnefeld
The Adrenaline Zone

Most people spend their lives avoiding risk. A select few attack it. They dive head first into the zone where physical, intellectual, reputational, and financial risks fuel their actions, test their resolve, and fulfill their dreams. Every week The Adrenaline Zone podcast explores the action-packed lives of people who seek out challenges most wouldn’t consider. Buckle up and hold on as we interview these deep divers, high fliers, and fast drivers to find out how it feels to live life in The Adrenaline Zone.

  1. APR 10

    Air Combat Lessons From Navy Ace Bill Driscoll

    How do you become a flying ace when outnumbered and shot down on fire? Decorated Naval Flight Officer Bill Driscoll shares his incredible Vietnam combat story here today revealing the intense preparation, critical pilot/RIO bond, and mindset needed under unimaginable pressure - going well beyond dogfight myths. Driscoll details the stark realities of combat, from joining the Navy unable to swim to later ejecting over enemy waters, or facing nearly 30 MiGs with only three wingmen, noting that such pressure demanded absolute readiness and mental fortitude. His journey from recruit to 5-kill ace and TOPGUN instructor reveals powerful lessons: the immense preparation required for combat, the vital trust built through accountability, and leadership principles centered on care and continuous improvement – all applicable far beyond the cockpit. These insights ultimately reshaped fighter tactics and still inspire leaders today. 🎯 KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: ⚔️ DUEL WITH AN ACE [16:30]: "A typical jet dogfight usually lasts about 15, 20 seconds. This one lasted almost two minutes. And for the first, say, minute and 50 seconds, we couldn't shake him. It was like he was tied on a string behind us." Experience the intensity of a life or death dogfight against a highly skilled enemy ace, requiring every ounce of skill and teamwork to survive and prevail. This fight resulted in Bill and Randy Cunningham's fifth MiG kill. 🤯 UPSIDE DOWN & ON FIRE [23:16]: "Now I'm 6'2", 185... but I'm squished against the top of the canopy and I can't get to the handle... Now we're upside down, fire in the cockpit, smoke, can't read the gauges in this inverted spin... with the two top tips of my fingers on the top of the handle, I yanked it and bam, it fired." Hear the harrowing moments of ejecting from a crippled F-4 Phantom over enemy territory. Survival depended on training and sheer will. 🔑 ACCOUNTABILITY CODE [39:30]: "The way we build trust at TOPGUN is we hold ourselves mercilessly accountable." Learn the simple yet powerful debriefing framework that drove massive improvements in naval aviation and builds trust through radical accountability. Applicable to any team seeking peak performance. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Combat Training vs. Reality   02:13 - Joining the Vietnam War   02:46 - Overcoming Naval Aviator Training Hurdles   04:27 - Flying and Fighting in the F-4 Phantom   07:46 - First MiG Kill   09:08 - Escaping Enemy Territory at Low Altitude   11:38 - Triple MiG Kill Dogfight Breakdown   16:42 - Outmaneuvering an Enemy Ace   18:59 - Communication Under Extreme Pressure   20:12 - What It Feels Like to Be Hit in Combat   24:09 - Sea Ejection and Rescue Story   26:27 - Survival and Recovery at Sea   30:27 - Mindset That Creates an Ace   33:03 - How TOPGUN Transformed Fighter Tactics   36:28 - The TOPGUN Culture of Excellence   37:15 - Applying Fighter Pilot Lessons to Business   41:45 - Building Trust and Leadership in Teams   42:49 - The Future of Fighter Aviation   🔗 CONNECT WITH BILL DRISCOLL: Website: https://www.willydriscoll.com/ Speaking Engagements: https://www.willydriscoll.com/blank-1 Peak Performance Under Pressure: https://www.amazon.com/Peak-Performance-Under-Pressure-Extraordinary/dp/0982702914 #NavalAviation#TopGun #Leadership #PeakPerformance

    46 min
  2. MAR 20

    The Unexpected Challenges of Being An Opera Star With J'Nai Bridges

    Ever wonder what it takes to stand on the world's most prestigious stages, captivating audiences with your voice? J'Nai Bridges unveils the intense athletic discipline, linguistic mastery, and emotional depth required to thrive in the demanding world of opera.  From navigating the pressures of performing to championing diversity in classical music, J'Nai shares the pivotal moments and transformative roles that have shaped her extraordinary career. J'Nai's story will challenge your perceptions about opera and inspire you to pursue your own passions with steadfast dedication. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY: [0:10:06]: "When you feel like you've seen yourself, it just clicks into your mind...oh wow, this is possible for me too." A powerful reminder that representation matters and seeing others who look like you achieving great things can ignite your own potential. 💡 INSIDER SECRET [0:15:43]: "Reviewing the film which is, like, ugh, always so difficult. It's, like, hard to hear myself. But it's a necessity. " Just like elite athletes, J'Nai emphasizes the importance of self-critique and analysis to continuously refine her performance. Don't miss this segment to learn how she identifies areas for improvement and maintains a competitive edge. 🔑 BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT [0:22:10]: "The recent role that I sang... allowed me to just... tap into a very vulnerable place." Hear J'Nai reveal how delving into vulnerable roles can profoundly impact artistry, bringing new depth to every performance.  📈 SUCCESS BLUEPRINT [0:27:37]: "When people hear their stories and feel seen, they come out." J'Nai shares her vision for the future of opera, highlighting the importance of new and diverse stories that resonate with modern audiences. Learn how she uses her platform to promote inclusivity and attract younger generations to this timeless art form. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The Ultimatum That Launched an Opera Career 00:25 - Breaking Barriers: Representation and Diversity in Opera 01:07 - The Athletic Discipline Behind Opera Performance 02:04 - From Choir to Conservatory: Finding a Voice in Classical Music 05:01 - Sacrifices and Challenges of an Opera Career 09:01 - The Power of Role Models and Mentorship 12:07 - Preparing for Major Roles and High-Stakes Performances 18:43 - Balancing Artistic Interpretation with Tradition 24:40 - Winning a Grammy and Performing on Opera’s Biggest Stages 27:24 - Expanding Opera for New Audiences and Genres 30:14 - The Evolution of Opera: Costumes, Creativity, and Modern Productions 32:12 - The Risks and Realities of Life as an Opera Singer 35:45 - Advice for Aspiring Opera Singers 37:52 - Where to Watch and Listen to J’Nai Bridges’ Performances 🔗 CONNECT WITH J'NAI: Website: https://jnaibridges.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jnaibridges4246 #OperaSinger #JNAIBridges #Inspiration

    40 min
  3. MAR 13

    Fighting Fire from 300 Feet with Diego Calderoni

    Discover the intense focus and critical decisions aerial firefighting pilots make while battling wildfires as Diego Calderoni of 10 Tanker reveals the challenges and rewards of flying the largest firefighting aircraft in the world. Most pilots dream of a comfortable airline career, but Diego found his calling diving into the heart of blazing infernos - but the role is not without its perils. Imagine battling turbulent skies, unpredictable winds, and mountainous terrain - treacherous conditions requiring constant vigilance and precise execution - where he has to make drop decisions on the fly with limited data. Learn how Diego and his fellow pilots navigate these dangers, often without advanced technology, relying on experience and gut instinct to protect lives and property. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [0:46:55]: "There's an intense focus that happens on fires...Those mission-based jobs kind of, in my mind, make you more present than you can ever be." Diego underscores the unparalleled concentration demanded by firefighting, emphasizing how it demands complete presence and engagement like few other professions. 🔑 BREAKTHROUGH MOMENT [0:17:08]: "It’s starting to feel like it's year-round internationally... our winter is South America's summer, and many countries are contracting tankers." He reveals that the profession isn't limited to typical summer months. The demand now extends internationally, marking it a year-round commitment. 💡 EXPERT INSIGHT [0:24:09]: "The most dangerous environment is mountainous terrain and strong winds." With years of experience under his belt, Diego pinpoints the most treacherous conditions pilots face. Understanding this is essential for effective wildfire management and keeping pilots safe. 📈 SUCCESS BLUEPRINT [0:34:56]: "We put retardant between that house and fire...at the most perfect time. Three or four seconds later, the house just would have been engulfed in flames." Diego recounts a story where a home was saved in the nick of time, showing how split-second decisions and precise execution are the key to saving communities from total devastation. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Inside the Life of an Aerial Firefighting Pilot 02:28 - The Unconventional Path to Fire Aviation 06:06 - The Aircraft Used in Wildland Firefighting 08:40 - How the DC10 Transformed Firefighting 12:10 - Specialized Training & Precision Drops 14:35 - The Logistics of Firefighting Missions 17:03 - Year-Round Firefighting 20:19 - How Firefighting Aircraft Coordinate in the Sky 24:10 - The Most Dangerous Flying Conditions 26:59 - Flying Low & Using Smoke to Read the Wind 31:25 - The Growing Challenge of Aging Aircraft & Engine Shortages 32:40 - High-Stakes Missions & Saving Lives 36:44 - The Crew & Coordination Behind Every Drop 40:41 - The Future of Aerial Firefighting 44:28 - How to Become a Firefighting Pilot 46:38 - The Mental Focus That Drives the Mission 🔗 CONNECT WITH DIEGO: • 10 Tanker: https://www.10tanker.com/ #AerialFirefighting #Wildfires #PilotLife

    45 min
  4. MAR 6

    Iditarod Strategies: What It REALLY Takes to Win with Dallas Seavey

    Discover the exhilarating world of ultra-long distance sled racing as six-time Iditarod champion Dallas Seavey reveals what it means to push the limits of human and animal endurance. It's not just physical strength that matters; it's the unbreakable bond he has with his dogs. Dallas emphasizes precognition, needing to know how situations today will affect his team in days, and recalls a near-fatal experience knee-deep in freezing water. Despite the danger, his insights on dog-centric strategies redefine leadership and teamwork revealing an approach not just about winning, but about fostering trust, respect, and a shared commitment to overcoming any obstacle the unforgiving Alaskan wilderness throws their way. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [0:24:06]: "We wanted to rebuild everything from the point of view of the dog. What is the experience the dog sees? Let's solve the dog's problem. Not my problem." Dallas highlights the importance of understanding the needs of your team, in this case the dogs, and prioritizing their well being over your own ego. 😨 DANGEROUS ASSUMPTION [0:44:26]: "It definitely resonates in the Iditarod that the more safe we feel because we have two way communication, the less prepared we become." Challenging the notion of relying on technology, Dallas emphasizes the importance of self-reliance in the face of unpredictable challenges. 💀 FROZEN FEAR [0:49:26]: "I tried to cut the boots off, but they were too frozen. I cut through all the laces, but everything was frozen together. That was probably the only time that I'm doing the math in my head and it's like, 'It's not looking good to make it out of here.'" Dallas recounts a harrowing near-death experience, highlighting the brutal realities and extreme conditions faced during these races in an unforgiving environment, as well as the mental fortitude required to survive. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The History and Meaning of the Iditarod 02:04 - How Dallas Seavey Became a Champion Musher 05:34 - Training and Preparing Dogs for Extreme Racing 11:42 - What Drives Mushers to Take on the Iditarod 14:32 - The 7-Month Iditarod Training Process 18:08 - Endurance, Sleep Deprivation, and Mental Toughness 22:09 - Strategic Decisions That Win the Iditarod 26:08 - Roles of Lead, Swing, and Wheel Dogs Explained 34:04 - Feeding Elite Sled Dogs for Peak Performance 36:41 - Preparing for Extreme Weather and Trail Challenges 40:24 - Navigation, Rescue, and Survival on the Trail 45:40 - Dallas’ Most Harrowing Near-Death Experience 51:17 - Lessons from Winning 6 Iditarods 55:02 - How Dallas’ Approach Evolved Over His Career 58:10 - The Future of Mushing and How to Grow the Sport 01:00:21 - Training the Next Generation of Mushers 🔗 CONNECT WITH DALLAS SEAVEY: X: https://x.com/dallasseavey?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dallasseaveyracing/?hl=en AK SLED DOG TOURS: https://sleddogtours.com/

    1h 2m
  5. FEB 27

    Soaring into the Eye of the Storm with Lieutenant Commander Christopher Wood

    Are you ready to confront nature's raw power head-on? Imagine piloting an aircraft directly into the eye of a hurricane, where the fate of coastal communities hangs in the balance. In this episode, Sandra and Sandy go deep inside the Adrenaline Zone to meet a member of the elite National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Corps who have the huge responsibility of gathering data in the most extreme weather conditions on the planet. Lieutenant Commander Christopher Wood, a seasoned hurricane hunter, unveils the intense reality of flying a P3 Orion through the heart of these cyclonic behemoths. He shares how they collect crucial, real-time data used in forecasting models, and the rigorous training and cutting-edge technology that keeps him and his crew safe as they gather data that saves lives.  🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [14:50]: "The reality that we all come to terms with when we put on the uniform and we go fly these planes is that we have a job to do...everybody who is on the ground is depending on our data to be able to make the right decisions to keep themselves safe and keep their property safe." Today’s episode unpacks the dedication of these pilots who knowingly fly into danger for the greater good. But can they keep up with the challenges of their aging fleet? And what's the future look like with new drone tech? You'll have to dive into the chapter markers below to find out! ⚠️ FEAR FACTOR [19:59]: "Anybody who's gone through a car wash and it's just like pounding on your windshield knows what it's like to fly into this. You can't see anything but water. If you want the full experience, just do the car wash while you're on an old wooden roller coaster." Get ready to hear about how these pilots navigate in conditions where you can't see anything, and learn about the hidden dangers lurking inside the eye of the storm. ✨ DREAM JOB [37:26]: "Go to college, major in something that you're excited about, and take some science classes alongside of that...Leadership opportunities, of course, are always great. We're looking for people who can interface well with the community." Chris breaks down the path to becoming a hurricane hunter, emphasizing the importance of STEM skills and leadership. Turns out you can get paid to fly through hurricanes! CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The Mission of the NOAA Hurricane Hunters 01:06 - The Cutting-Edge Tech That Sees Inside Hurricanes 03:10 - Getting Into This High-Risk Career 07:22 - How the Crew Works Together 09:40 - Why NOAA’s Planes Have Muppet Names 11:00 - Safety Protocols for Extreme Weather Flights 14:20 - What Happens When a Hurricane Targets Your Base? 17:26 - Navigating in Zero Visibility and Turbulence 19:47 - The Stunning Moment of Entering a Hurricane’s Eye 21:14 - Other Extreme Weather Missions 22:29 - The Most Intense Hurricane Flight Ever 26:08 - How New Tech Is Changing Hurricane Forecasting 28:12 - The Most Crucial Data for Storm Predictions 30:00 - How Doppler Radar Works Inside a Storm 32:40 - NOAA’s New Aircraft and the Future of Hurricane Hunting 35:05 - The Biggest Misconception About Flying Into Hurricanes 36:26 - How to Become a Hurricane Hunter 🔗 CONNECT WITH LCDR CHRISTOPHER WOOD: • NOAA website: https://www.noaa.gov/ • NOAA Corps: https://www.omao.noaa.gov/noaa-corps • Hurricane Research Division: https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hurricane-research-division/ #HurricaneHunter #NOAACorps #ClimateData

    40 min
  6. FEB 6

    Uncovering A Life Undercover with Joe Pistone

    Imagine having to constantly look over your shoulder while living a lie, taking on a false persona and immersing yourself deeply to penetrate a high-risk underworld group without slipping up.  Listen in today and discover how former FBI agent Joe Pistone, under the alias Donnie Brasco, successfully infiltrated the Bonanno crime family, and lived to tell the tale. This episode dives deep into the world of undercover operations, risk management, and the psychological challenges of living a double life, highlighting along the way the fact that relying on your gut and preparation might be the only thing that keeps you alive. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [34:02]: "If I found them and the other gangsters were with me, it would have been a tough decision because I think Bruno would have had to get killed because I wasn't going to get killed for a gangster." Learn how Joseph Pistone navigated the dangerous world of the Mafia when he was tasked with killing another member of the Bonanno crime family. 🎯 KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: ✨ DESIRE [12:51]: "So I went to school, learned about diamonds, precious gems, and then you have to back that up if you're a jewel thief. You got to know how to pick locks, you got to know about alarm systems, and you have to know about safes. So I was taught that by our people." Pistone's dedication to mastering his cover identity, even acquiring specialized skills like lock-picking and gemology, showcases the commitment needed for successful infiltration. ⚡ PRACTICAL TAKEAWAY [17:01]: "A lot of young undercovers, actually they watch too much television. They think, oh, the guy's a bad guy, so you got to sit there and drink all night. You have to be yourself. That's basically one of the main stays of undercover. Do not change anything about your personality. Be who you are." This advice underscores the importance of authenticity in undercover work, debunking the Hollywood myth of constant partying and emphasizing the need to remain true to oneself. ⚠️ FEAR [18:01]: "You just don't do it. You don't do it. My family lived across the country, actually. You have your own apartment. When you're in a deep cover situation, the only identification you have is your fake identification." This moment highlights the isolating reality of deep undercover work and the constant fear of being discovered. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Joe Pistone: From FBI Agent to Donnie Brasco 01:12 - High-Stakes Risk and Mafia Infiltration 02:09 - Early Steps into Law Enforcement 04:12 - How Street Life Shaped Undercover Skills 06:11 - Gambling and the Evolution of FBI Undercover Operations 08:45 - Creating the FBI Undercover Program 10:41 - Training to Infiltrate Crime Families 16:22 - Mafia Rules and Deep Cover Challenges 18:01 - Sacrifices of Deep Undercover Work 20:09 - Managing Risk in Dangerous Missions 23:27 - Maintaining Cover Under Intense Pressure 26:25 - Daily Life in the Mafia World 30:43 - Humor and Humanity Among Criminals 32:01 - The End of the Donnie Brasco Operation 35:17 - Life After the Undercover Operation 39:30 - Behind the Scenes of Donnie Brasco the Film 41:19 - How Hollywood and Mafia Life Intersect BOOKS BY JOE PISTONE: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Joseph-D-Pistone/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AJoseph%2BD.%2BPistone #DonnieBrasco #UndercoverLife #Mafia

    44 min
  7. JAN 23

    Fighting Fentanyl with Mike Sena

    The Adrenaline Zone shines a spotlight today on the deadly fentanyl crisis in the US as Sandy and Sandra interview Mike Sena, Director of Northern California's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA). Mike reveals the grim realities of the epidemic and the complex battle to combat it, offering a unique perspective from his undercover background and current role. He also highlights the power of a multi-pronged strategy to save lives in this fierce battle against fentanyl poisoning. 🎯 BIGGEST TAKEAWAY [0:48:07]: "The one thing, the great success story that I am seeing is that the spark of hope in communities, the community groups getting together and saying, “No more.”" 🎯 KEY EPISODE TAKEAWAYS: ⚠️ THE XYLAZINE THREAT [0:35:56] "With a xylazine overdose, the naloxone will not work. And so there is a good likelihood that if we see a huge increase in mixtures of xylazine and fentanyl, all those reversals that we've had, those thousands and hundreds of thousands of people that have been saved because of naloxone, they'll become useless." This changes everything about the opioid crisis because it reveals a terrifying new dimension where our primary life-saving tool, Narcan, could become ineffective, potentially leading to a surge in overdose deaths. ⚡COMMUNICATION [0:45:25] "I think our biggest issue is having that common communications platform. And I have spent the last two years working on a platform that I hope will mitigate some of these issues we've got. But right now our big gap is that - a unified platform." This is crucial because it highlights a critical weakness in our national response to crises – the lack of a unified communication system – and proposes a solution that could significantly improve coordination and save lives, echoing the need for similar systems in combating drug trafficking. ✨ HOPE IN COLLABORATION [0:48:45] "So the success that I'm seeing every day is that level of collaboration, seeing the seizures that are happening and more importantly, seeing people get the treatment they need and seeing, in many cases, courts helping people get the treatment they need as well." This is a game-changer because it demonstrates that a unified, multi-agency approach, involving law enforcement, public health, and community organizations, is proving effective in combating the crisis and offering a path towards recovery. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The Deadly Toll of Fentanyl 01:13 - Multidimensional Solutions to the Drug Crisis 02:08 - Mike Sena's Unique Career Path 07:29 - Challenges of Undercover Narcotics Work 10:03 - Turning Drug Dealers into Success Stories 16:10 - America’s Greatest Drug Threat 20:06 - Coordinating Intelligence Across Agencies 23:23 - Community Efforts in Combating Overdoses 27:32 - Tackling Cartel-Driven Drug Distribution 30:26 - Drug Trafficking Beyond the Border 34:19 - Tracing Money in the Drug Trade 35:13 - The Rise of Xylazine and Emerging Threats 39:46 - Enhancing Interdiction Efforts and Intelligence Sharing 47:00 - Stories of Success in Combating the Crisis 49:13 - The Importance of Unified Community Action Resources Mentioned: HIDTA: https://www.hidtaprogram.org/ SAFE Project: https://safeproject.us/ Connect with Mike Sena: Mike Sena: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-sena-8548292b/ #FentanylCrisis #DrugTrafficking #HIDTA

    51 min
  8. 07/12/2024

    Working The Mighty Mississippi with Captain Doicus Langley Jr.

    “Both engines died instantly, the hit was so hard. I immediately just kind of lay down on my bed because I knew how bad the impact was going to be. It threw my bed all the way across the room, dresser laid over, refrigerators downstairs on the floor - it was a hard impact.” Captain Doicus Langley Jr. joins Sandy and Sandra on the podcast today to share details of this perilous moment and so much more as he recounts his journey from a water-loving childhood to becoming a seasoned push boat Captain on the Mississippi River. Along the way, he discusses the contrasting experiences of working on rivers versus open water and the unique challenges of river navigation. Reflecting on the evolving technology in tugboat operations, Captain Langley describes the logistics of moving cargo from Minnesota to New Orleans as well as the immense horsepower required for steering and speed. After highlighting the competitive nature of the maritime industry and the collaborative spirit among river captains, this very special guest draws the episode to a conclusion with some valuable advice for aspiring captains, underscoring the dedication needed for a successful career in river navigation. Episode Highlights: Captain Langley Jr.’s upbringing and early love of being on the water His perspective on working on rivers vs. open water Becoming a Captain The evolution of tug operation over the years Tugs and barges The competitive side of the industry Moving a load from Minnesota to New Orleans A tug’s horsepower, steering, and speed Navigating the Mississippi’s hazards Running aground The Captain’s worst incident His crew and its work dynamic His relationship with other Captains Advice for aspiring tug or push boat Captains Key Takeaways: "Not only does a good cook cook good food, they can be the person who kind of holds everything together because they're down there in the center of the whole boat." "Typically, people that start in the river industry stay there.” "Within a five year period, you can be sitting in the wheelhouse running a boat, maybe not as a captain, but as a pilot." "The southbound vessel proposes the place and manner of passing, while the northbound vessel has more control." "You have to, at some point in your career, be able to dedicate yourself to the boat while you're on the boat." “It can be great. I mean, it really is like a family away from home. It can also be as bad as you can imagine like a squabbling family at home, you know, like, you're having issues. So it can go both directions.” “There's definitely a huge need for people out on the river for merchant mariners in general.” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone  Captain Doicus Langley Jr.’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doicus-r-langley-Jr.-24b25b95/

    44 min
5
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29 Ratings

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Most people spend their lives avoiding risk. A select few attack it. They dive head first into the zone where physical, intellectual, reputational, and financial risks fuel their actions, test their resolve, and fulfill their dreams. Every week The Adrenaline Zone podcast explores the action-packed lives of people who seek out challenges most wouldn’t consider. Buckle up and hold on as we interview these deep divers, high fliers, and fast drivers to find out how it feels to live life in The Adrenaline Zone.

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