What happens when we listen to a call we don’t fully understand? In this first interview episode of Room to Evolve, Jessica Goulding sits down with Jill Geoffrion, one of the world’s leading voices on labyrinth prayer, pilgrimage, and Chartres Cathedral. Together, they explore pilgrimage not as tourism, but as transformation—an outer journey with an inner purpose. Jill shares her origin story: how a simple paper labyrinth traced with her finger revealed her life story back to her, and how that moment led her into decades of walking, studying, and teaching labyrinth prayer across the world. From Chartres to the Camino, from sacred geometry to modern thresholds, this conversation gently unfolds what it means to say yes to a call—especially when we don’t yet know where it leads. You’ll hear reflections on: What defines a pilgrimage (and what doesn’t) Why the labyrinth is a practice of trust and surrender Chartres Cathedral as a “tuning fork” for the soul Threshold moments—when to step in, when to step out Hospitality as a spiritual path How beauty itself becomes a form of prayer Living at the threshold with love in uncertain times This episode is an invitation to slow down, listen deeply, and consider where your next threshold may be waiting. As you listen, notice: Is there a place, practice, or path that keeps calling you back? Where might you be standing at a threshold—ready, or almost ready, to step in? You don’t need to know the destination.Sometimes, the pilgrimage begins the moment you say yes. Join Jessica and Jill October 3-10, 2026 Hidden Things: Pilgrimage to Chartres Cathedral https://roomtoevolve.substack.com/p/go Subscribe and enjoy Room to Evolve: A spiritual sanctuary for pilgrims, seekers, mystics, and creatives to move, breathe, and walk together through the labyrinth of life. http://roomtoevolve.com Jessica Goulding, C-IAYT, E-RYT500, Labyrinth Facilitator Jessica Goulding is a yoga therapist, labyrinth facilitator, and retreat leader—a pilgrim of the inner life whose teaching and writing accompany others through thresholds of change, weaving yoga, contemplation, and sacred practice. https://roomtoevolve.com Subscribe on Substack: https://substack.com/@roomtoevolve? The Rev. Jill Kimberly Hartwell Geoffrion, PhD, DD, is a world-renowned expert on labyrinths, labyrinth prayer, and the Chartres Cathedral. She has published seven books and numerous scholarly and popular articles on labyrinths. Her most recent work, Visions of Mary, Art, Devotion, and Beauty at Chartres Cathedral, combines stunning images and historical insights. As a professional photographer, Jill’s visual work points to the unique character and inspiration of labyrinth prayer, the Chartres Cathedral, and sacred sites around the world. In her global ministry on four continents, Jill installs large-scale, Chartres-style labyrinths, often working in places of violence and acute suffering. When serving as a guide, workshop leader, and retreat facilitator, she enjoys connecting the spiritual needs of others with God’s bountiful love. Jill’s writing, art, and leadership style are inspiring, encouraging, and experience-based. Learn more about Jill at https://jillgeoffrion.com/ Browse Jill's books at https://jillgeoffrion.com/writings/books/ Book mentioned in this episode: Visions of Mary: Art, Devotion, and Beauty at Chartres Cathedral Brewster, MA: Mount Tabor Press, 2017 Tags:PilgrimageLabyrinthChartres CathedralSacred Journey
