10 episodes

Curious about the health care physical environment? Join John Williams and Bridget McDougall for serial fun on a serious topic as they discuss the FGI Guidelines and design and compliance issues with some of the world’s top thinkers and designers. Explore the history of the minimum standards and intent between the lines of the code.

Between the Lines with FGI Facility Guidelines Institute

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Curious about the health care physical environment? Join John Williams and Bridget McDougall for serial fun on a serious topic as they discuss the FGI Guidelines and design and compliance issues with some of the world’s top thinkers and designers. Explore the history of the minimum standards and intent between the lines of the code.

    E9 – Ding! Ding! A Toast to Residential Care Dining Spaces: Addie Abushousheh

    E9 – Ding! Ding! A Toast to Residential Care Dining Spaces: Addie Abushousheh

    Addie Abushousheh shares her insights on the evolution of residential health, care, and support facility design and construction, particularly focusing on the role kitchen and dining spaces have in enhancing residents’ quality of life. Key points include shifts in language to empower residents, the importance of various kitchen types for autonomy, and the significance of dining areas for socialization and therapy. Addie highlights new language in the upcoming 2026 draft Guidelines for Design and Construction of Residential Health, Care, and Support Facilities document, emphasizing the intent to support choice for both those building these facilities and the people calling them home.  

     

    Sponsored by:  

    Specified Technologies, Inc. (STI): Your partner in barrier management solutions. 

     

     

    Link to show notes https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e9-ding-ding-a-toast-to-residential-care-dining-spaces-addie-abushousheh

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    • 34 min
    E8 – The Sound of Silence: Mandy Kachur

    E8 – The Sound of Silence: Mandy Kachur

    Unless you’re an expert in acoustics, it’s likely the acoustic-related requirements in the Guidelines read like a foreign language. Acoustic engineer Mandy Kachur joins hosts John and Bridget to not only talk about the impact noise can have on patient care, but also turn a complex topic into a digestible concept. Various acoustic tables in the Guidelines are explained, touching on speech privacy, speech intelligibility, exterior noise control, and sound isolation. Mandy also cautions designers about the easiest mistake to avoid before the threat of costly retrofits and explains how reducing noise in patient care spaces can be directly tied to reimbursement.
     

    Sponsored by: Specified Technologies, Inc.: Your partner in barrier management solutions. 

     
    Link to show notes: https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e8-the-sound-of-silence-mandy-kachur/

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    • 35 min
    E7 – Is Part 1 of the Guidelines Optional? —John Williams and Bridget McDougall

    E7 – Is Part 1 of the Guidelines Optional? —John Williams and Bridget McDougall

    In this week’s episode, Bridget and John discuss the intricacies of design and construction standards as they unravel both the misconceptions and the significance of Part 1 of the Guidelines for Design and Construction. Exploring topics ranging from risk assessments to equipment specifications, they offer valuable perspectives on navigating building codes, emphasizing the importance of thorough planning and collaborative discussions. Whether you're a seasoned professional or a curious observer, their conversation captivates and informs, leaving you with a deeper understanding of the complexities inherent in the planning, design, and construction of health care facilities.
     
    This episode is sponsored by Northstar Management Company: "Smart Builds Start With Us."
     

    Link to show notes: https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e7-is-part-1-of-the-guidelines-optional-john-williams-and-bridget-mcdougall

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    • 30 min
    E6 – It’s Electric! (Receptacles): Krista Biason

    E6 – It’s Electric! (Receptacles): Krista Biason

    In this episode, Bridget and John enter the world of electrical receptacles in patient care areas with electrical engineer expert Krista Biason. They simplify complex regulations, dig into related Guidelines minimum requirements, and emphasize the importance of inclusive planning for functional, patient-centered spaces. Krista's expertise shines as she explains technical nuances, from distinguishing between critical and essential branches to discussing emerging technologies like USB charger outlets. The trio's candid exchanges inject humor, making the topic engaging, as they stress the need for flexible designs that balance functionality with adaptability.
     
    This episode is sponsored by Northstar Management Company: "Smart Builds Start With Us."
     
    Link to blog: https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e6-its-electric-receptacles-krista-biason
    Learn more about AIA self-reporting LUs: https://fgiguidelines.org/aia-self-reporting-lus/
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    • 32 min
    E5 – Behavioral Health Crisis Units: Dr. Scott Zeller

    E5 – Behavioral Health Crisis Units: Dr. Scott Zeller

    “We usually think of treatments being medications, devices, surgeries. But we need to realize that the environment can be a treatment, too.” Dr. Scott Zeller joins hosts Bridget and John to explore the importance of designing supportive spaces for individuals experiencing mental health crises. Learn about the innovative EmPATH model that led to the inclusion of the behavioral health crisis unit in the 2022 edition of the Guidelines.
     
    This episode is sponsored by Northstar Management Company: "Smart Builds Start With Us."

    Link to Blog https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e5-behavioral-health-crisis-units-scott-zeller/(
    Learn more about AIA self-reporting LUs: https://fgiguidelines.org/aia-self-reporting-lus/
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    • 40 min
    E4 – Infection Preventionists as Collaborative Partners: Lela Luper

    E4 – Infection Preventionists as Collaborative Partners: Lela Luper

    Infection preventionist Lela Luper joins hosts John and Bridget to explore the critical nexus of facility design and infection control in healthcare. From furr downs to fish tanks and everything in between, today’s episode illustrates the often-overlooked hidden dangers in the health and residential care physical environment. Lela underscores the value of including infection preventionists early in design conversations and highlights the importance of being a collaborative partner rather than a rigid enforcer.  
     
    This episode is sponsored by Northstar Management Company: "Smart Builds Start With Us."

    Link to show notes:
    https://fgiguidelines.org/podcast/e4-infection-preventionists-as-collaborative-partners-lela-luper

    Learn more about AIA self-reporting LUs: https://fgiguidelines.org/aia-self-reporting-lus/ 

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    • 32 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
21 Ratings

21 Ratings

ghornsby3 ,

Essential

If you are involved with health care design then this podcast is essential. The guests provide valuable insights into why the guidelines have the requirements/helpful addendums they do. This often includes the history. As an AHJ these podcasts have informed how I review a project.

FloatingheadDM ,

Thank you!

Bridget and John,
Thank you for hosting this podcast. The context of the “why” and the “who” of the guidelines brings the guidelines to life for me. Keep them coming!
John

KSpringer27 ,

Interesting and informative

As a nurse emerging into the healthcare design world this podcast is not only educational but also interesting. I will recommend to all of my healthcare friends interested in healthcare design!

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