14 episodes

Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and K-12 education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.

ChatEDU: AI in Education Matt Mervis and Dr. Elizabeth Radday

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    • 4.9 • 26 Ratings

Welcome to ChatEDU: AI in Education, your go-to podcast for insightful discussions on the intersection of AI and K-12 education! Hosted by Matt Mervis, Director of Skills21 and AI Strategy at EdAdvance, and Dr. Elizabeth Radday, Director of Research & Innovation, this podcast explores the dynamic landscape of education technology.

    Teens on Gen AI: A New Study from Common Sense Media | Ep. 14

    Teens on Gen AI: A New Study from Common Sense Media | Ep. 14

    In this episode of ChatEDU (Teens on Gen AI: A New Study from Common Sense Media), Matt and Liz dive into a new report from Common Sense Media that explores how teens are using and perceiving generative AI. The episode provides a comprehensive overview of the latest research on this topic, shedding light on both the excitement and concerns surrounding AI among young people.

    First in Our Intro


    Matt and Liz talk about interactive prompting and narcissism :). Check out www.skills21.org/ai  (Prompts > Counselor > Role-Playing a Challenging Work Situation) 



    Then in the News:


    Cara: An AI-Free Space for Artists - Matt introduces Cara, a social media portfolio app created by photographer Jenga Zhang. Cara aims to protect artists' rights by providing an AI-free environment where they can share their work without the risk of it being scraped by AI models.


    Tribeca Film Festival - The festival features five short films created using OpenAI's Sora, a text-to-video tool. This marks the first time Sora is showcased at a major arts festival, highlighting the potential of generative AI in filmmaking. Matt and Liz discuss how schools will need to address each artistic field individually when it comes to generative AI.




    Illuminate by Google - Liz discusses Illuminate.withgoogle.com, an experimental tool that transforms dense academic papers into accessible NPR-style discussions. This tool aims to make academic research more engaging and easier to understand, while addressing issues like hallucinations in AI-generated content.



    Short Stack Chat Back:


    Dumbledore-Style - ChatGPT + ElevenLabs provide a whimsical, yet insightful, three-sentence summary of the Common Sense Media report in the style of Dumbledore, capturing the essence of teens' perspectives on generative AI.



    Have a question or comment? Please email Matt and Liz at chatedu@edadvance.org

    • 31 min
    AI Surrender - Professors Throw in the Towel on Writing? | Ep. 13

    AI Surrender - Professors Throw in the Towel on Writing? | Ep. 13

    In this episode of ChatEDU (AI Surrender - Professors Throw in the Towel on Writing?) Matt and Liz discuss the controversial notion of AI taking over writing tasks. The episode deep dive is informed by the work of two professors from Carnegie Mellon University who are saying the quiet part out loud, with an AI tool aimed at assisting students with the writing process.

    Fist in the news: 


    Mechanistic Interpretability - Matt explains the concept of mechanistic interpretability, likening it to an MRI for language models. This technique, championed by AI safety-focused company Anthropic, helps unpack the black box nature of AI models to understand how they generate their outputs and address issues like bias and hallucinations.


    AI Tutors in Education - Liz revisits the topic of AI tutors, emphasizing the benefits they bring to students (particularly in math and science). These AI tools can serve as accessible and affordable tutors, helping students understand complex problems step-by-step as a means to increase educational equity.



    Short Stack Chat Back - The episode concludes with an AI supported take on the Beneath the Surface topic. 

    Have a question or comment? Please email Matt and Liz at chatedu@edadvance.org 

    • 26 min
    AI Hope or Hype - A K-12 Reality Check | Ep. 12

    AI Hope or Hype - A K-12 Reality Check | Ep. 12

    In this first “Short Stack” episode of ChatEDU (AI Hope or Hype - A K-12 Reality Check) Liz and Matt unpack an important New York Times opinion piece titled "Press Pause on the Silicon Valley Hype Machine” by Julia Angwin. They explore key assertions in the article including: 


    Overstated Achievements: AI's claimed capabilities versus real performance.


    Unreliable Performance: The effort required to correct AI output versus manual tasks.


    Limited Improvement Potential: Constraints on AI improvements due to data and energy consumption.


    Resource Allocation: The diversion of resources from practical innovations to AI developments.



    In each area, Matt and Liz discuss how these points resonate in the K-12 context, emphasizing the need for balanced AI literacy and thoughtful resource allocation. They end with their own priority list of K-12 AI in education challenges. 

    First, in the News - 


    Holographics and Wearables: Matt shares his excitement about the new Meta Ray-Ban glasses as well as lightweight AR/AI glasses being developed by Stanford researchers


    AI and Gender: Liz discusses the economic impacts of AI on women, highlighting bias in AI models and the underrepresentation of women in AI labs. 



    Short Stack Chat Back - The episode concludes with an AI supported take on the Beneath the Surface topic. 

    Have a question or comment? Please email Matt and Liz at chatedu@edadvance.org

    • 31 min
    That’s a Wrap - Exploring the Fate of Custom AI Teacher Tools | Ep. 11

    That’s a Wrap - Exploring the Fate of Custom AI Teacher Tools | Ep. 11

    In this episode of ChatEDU (That’s a Wrap - Exploring the Fate of Custom AI Teacher Tools), hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday think through the implications of the ChatGPT 4o release, and what it may mean for custom AI teacher tools and the broader landscape AI + education landscape. 

    First, In the News: 


    Microsoft Work Trends Report



    Matt unpacks a new report from Microsoft highlighting the need for AI literacy in schools.





    AI and Solopreneurs



    Liz examines the rise of "solopreneurs," entrepreneurs using AI to operate alone, and draws connections to Capstone projects.





    NSFW Content and AI



    Matt and Liz discuss OpenAI's new “Model Spec” including the possibility of NSFW content in AI outputs down the line.





    Homework Assistance Apps



    Liz highlights the prevalence of AI homework assistance apps in the iOS App Store and the challenges they pose for teachers.




    Beneath the Surface Links


    GPT 4-o Math Problems


    GPT 4-o Rocky Interview


    GPT 4-o Real Time Translation



    Chat Back: Listener Question


    Matt and Liz address a listener's question about whether schools should appoint a primary AI lead.

    • 43 min
    AI for Good: The Literacy Component We Might Be Missing | Ep. 10

    AI for Good: The Literacy Component We Might Be Missing | Ep. 10

    In this milestone 10th episode of ChatEDU (AI for Good: The Literacy Component We Might Be Missing) hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday explore how US attitudes towards AI impacts our perspective and potentially narrows how we define AI literacy for students. 

    First in the news: 

    Segment 1: AI's Role in Reading


    Matt discusses the less highlighted role of AI in reading compared to writing, featuring insights from Marc Watkins who addresses the potential risks AI poses to developing deep reading and analytical skills.



    Segment 2: Labor in Developing Nations and AI


    Liz examines the significant yet overlooked contribution of labor from developing nations in shaping generative AI outputs, highlighting ethical considerations and impacts on language, with a focus on the overuse of the word "delve."



    Segment 3: Google's AI Tool for English Language Learners


    Matt introduces Google's new generative AI tool designed to assist English language learners through interactive and scenario-based learning, enhancing their practical communication skills.



    Segment 4: Generative AI and Trust in Educational Settings


    Liz unpacks a study concerning how generative AI influences trust in student-teacher relationships, discussing the challenges and the evolving expectations that both parties face in an AI-integrated educational environment.



    Chat Back: Listener Question

    The episode concludes with a listener's question about how to best explain AI to high school students, stressing the importance of understanding AI beyond just generative models and incorporating real-world applications that students encounter daily.

    • 43 min
    Yes the Jobs - But First the Class of 2025 | Ep. 9

    Yes the Jobs - But First the Class of 2025 | Ep. 9

    This episode of ChatEDU (Yes the Jobs - But First the Class of 2025) unpacks the significant impact of AI on the job market, emphasizing how to meet the immediate needs of next year’s seniors. But first in the news, hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday explore various facets of AI in education, including persistent biases in AI models, student preferences for AI-generated versus teacher feedback on writing, and the role of generative AI in the art and science of book writing. Additionally, they discuss S.A.R.A.H, a video avatar from the World Health Organization designed to provide reliable health information. The episode wraps up with listener questions about how not to increase student anxiety as they prepare for 2025 and beyond. 

    In the News:

    Segment 1: AI and Bias


    Highlight of a study from University College London showing bias in AI models.


    Discussion on efforts to mitigate biases in AI.



    Segment 2: Student Feedback on AI


    Insights from a field study on how students perceive AI-generated feedback compared to teacher feedback.


    Discussion on the importance of human elements in educational feedback.



    Segment 3: AI in Health


    Introduction of S.A.R.A.H, an AI tool from WHO for health guidance.


    Discussion on the reliability and limits of AI in providing health information.



    Segment 4: AI in Authorship


    Liz discusses her personal project on using AI to aid in writing her book.Exploration of different roles AI can play in the creative process of writing.

    • 42 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
26 Ratings

26 Ratings

NJ Mommer ,

Making AI understandable

Way to go at getting this mom to understand the implications of AI on my kids education!

Helping me cross this off my mental load checklist one episode at a time.

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Great

I enjoyed listening to Matt speak his wisdom

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Interesting, Important, & Entertaining!

As educators it’s always important to ask what knowledge and competencies are essential for students to learn in order to best prepare them for success in the world beyond school. Through interesting examples, news, and anecdotesMatt and Elizabeth make a compelling case that AI is a “literacy” that we cannot afford to ignore. In considering both teacher-facing and student-facing AI, the ChatEDU podcast provides a great entry point into the still burgeoning discussion around this complex topic. Highly recommended for all educators and anyone interested in AI!

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