Contractor Growth Network

Logan Shinholser
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Growing up as the son of a successful contractor, Logan experienced firsthand the benefits of a healthy contracting business: less stress, more money, and more time for family. Now Logan runs Contractor Growth Network to help guide you on your journey to create a strong and reliable contracting business for your family. Interested in learning more? Visit contractorgrowthnetwork.com or join our Facebook group, Common Sense Contracting, today.

  1. 12/17/2025

    #475 "How I Doubled my Close Rates with Design Proposals" (ft. AJ Ballantine)

    In this episode, Logan sits down with AJ Ballantine to break down how Cornerstone Remodeling grew from $2M to $10M in five years—without hiring five times the people. The secret? A radically optimized design process, driven by empathy mapping, technology, and sales finesse. AJ walks through the systems, tools, and scripts he used to cut his sales cycle, boost his close rate, and wow clients—all while keeping a high-touch, boutique feel. If you're a design-build remodeler struggling with lengthy sales processes, low perceived value, or slow growth, this episode is your blueprint for change. 🔑 Key Takeaways Optimize, Don't Overhire → AJ's sales team used to close $3M/year—now they close at a $10M pace with the same team → The shift: 6–10 hours to build a high-impact "first pass" proposal that converts faster Perceived Value > Just Deliverables → AJ's team builds proposals in Canva with floor plans, mood boards, and personalized designer quotes → Clients feel like they're already halfway through the project before competitors even send a bid Use Tech to Speed Trust → Render's "Invite to Capture" feature lets homeowners scan their space remotely → Clients feel empowered, and your team gets measurements without stepping foot in the home Empathy Mapping = Sales Gold → AJ's team mapped out client pain points like option overload and lack of clarity → Solutions like curated samples, mood boards, and visual timelines de-stress the process Charge to Impress → Clients pay 1% upfront for a first pass proposal, then 5% more before design revisions → Conversion after that second payment? 100% (outside of rare exceptions) 🧰 Tools & Tactics Mentioned Render – 3D space scanning tool AJ co-developed Canva – Used for building visually stunning proposals Calendly – Streamlined consult scheduling JobTread – Estimating and construction management DocuSign – Seamless proposal signing + payments Loom – For walking clients through proposals remotely 🕒 Timestamps 00:00 – Why growing a business doesn't mean hiring more people 01:30 – AJ's background: design + build = natural fit 04:00 – How Render's space scanning changed the game 07:45 – How to ask clients to scan their space without losing trust 10:35 – Case study: A $75K bathroom turned $150K with the right process 13:00 – The power of the phone call as a pattern interrupt 15:30 – What goes in a "first pass" proposal and how it's delivered 20:00 – Using the Moscow Report to align budget and finishes 24:00 – Proposal design: how aesthetics drive perceived value 26:50 – Creating speed and momentum to outpace competitors 30:00 – Including designer mood boards and personal touches 35:00 – The metrics: 76% close rate, $1M–$2M months, 6–10 hours per proposal 39:00 – The second phase: formal measurements, structural confirmation 44:00 – No-surprises contract pricing explained 48:00 – Selection process: curated samples over option overload 51:00 – Designing for the busy, not the picky 54:00 – Solving for process friction: empathy + accountability 57:00 – The sales and marketing adjustments that made it all work 1:02:00 – Why everything is digital (except the printed permit plans) 1:05:00 – How AJ got team buy-in on massive change 1:11:00 – 40X and driving a culture of accountability 1:14:00 – Start with WHY if you want your new process to stick 💬 Quote of the Episode "We used to spend $2,000 worth of effort on a proposal and hand over a spreadsheet. Now, we hand them a deliverable that looks like a million bucks—and they're halfway to signing." — AJ Ballantine

    1h 20m

  2. 12/03/2025

    #474 Lessons from 30 Years in Residential Architecture (ft. Chris Landis)

    Logan sits down with Chris Landis, co-founder of the award-winning Landis Architects/Builders in Washington, D.C. With over 35 years of experience, Chris shares how his architecture background shaped the firm's design-build approach—and what remodelers can learn from their detailed, phased design process. From feasibility studies and pre-construction agreements to hiring in-house designers and scaling team structure, this episode is a masterclass in how to elevate the design side of your remodeling business. Whether you're just starting to charge for design or scaling up to larger, more complex projects, Chris offers clear takeaways on how to structure your process, train your team, and charge what you're worth. 🔑 What You'll Learn Why Landis' design process includes 3 clear phases: schematic, DD, and CD How feasibility studies help pre-qualify projects and set expectations What to look for when hiring designers—and how to train them How a team leader role bridges sales and design for smoother execution Why charging properly for design leads to better clients, work, and profits How Landis keeps clients excited and engaged throughout long design timelines What it looks like to run a design department that actually makes money ⏱️ Key Timestamps 00:00 – Intro to Chris Landis + Landis Architects & Builders 01:30 – From Wall Street offices to handyman work: how the business started 05:30 – Why drawings matter (and why they should never be free) 11:00 – Overview of Landis' design services: feasibility, pre-construction, full design 15:00 – Three phases of design: schematic, DD, and CD 20:00 – Aligning sales and design with a "team leader" role 27:00 – How Landis prices design and stays ahead on billing 30:00 – In-house vs outsourced design teams: pros and cons 36:00 – Matching designers to project types and geographic regions 38:00 – Keeping clients excited during long design and permitting windows 45:00 – How Landis markets high-end projects (and the power of awards) 47:00 – Design isn't a loss leader—it's a profit center 52:00 – Why charging for design leads to better hires, better clients, and a stronger brand

    54 min

  3. 11/19/2025

    #473 Improving your Remodeling Sales with Assignment Selling

    Logan and Aaron unpack one of the most powerful but underused sales strategies in remodeling: assignment selling. Originally coined by Marcus Sheridan, this method bridges the gap between marketing and sales—by arming prospects with the right information before they ever get on a call. You'll learn how to apply this approach in your own sales process—whether it's sending project walkthroughs before a meeting, using content to pre-qualify leads, or walking clients through your website in real-time. If you've been creating great content but aren't sure how to use it to actually close deals, this episode will show you how.  What You'll Learn What assignment selling is (and isn't) Why content belongs in your sales process, not just your marketing How to reduce unqualified leads and shorten the sales cycle What kinds of content work best at different sales stages How to personalize resources based on each prospect The difference between automations vs one-on-one communication How to ask clients to consume content—without sounding pushy  Key Timestamps 00:00 – What is assignment selling (and why does it matter)? 03:00 – Mapping your sales process to identify content gaps 06:30 – The difference between marketing automation and sales enablement 12:30 – Why production quality matters in sales content 18:00 – Examples of content that actually move the sale forward 25:00 – What happens when a prospect doesn't do their assignment 32:00 – Using your website like a live sales deck 37:00 – Emotional buy-in vs logical overload 43:00 – How to map your process and assign content that supports it 48:00 – How CGN uses this strategy in their own sales calls

    50 min

  4. 11/05/2025

    #472 Top-of-Funnel Marketing: Truck Wraps, Social Media, and More

    In this episode of the Contractor Growth Network podcast, Logan and Aaron break down what it takes to build a memorable, recognizable remodeling brand in your community—before prospects are even ready to hire. From truck wraps to social media ads, they walk through the most common "top of funnel" marketing strategies, explain when to use them, and how to measure impact over time. If your goal is to become the remodeler people think of first, this episode is your blueprint. Key Topics: Understanding the marketing funnel and where branding fits Truck wraps, yard signs, and how they signal trust Why remodelers should use social media—even without going viral The new way Meta ads work (and why they're easier than ever) The role of email marketing in nurturing leads Direct mail that doesn't feel like junk Trade shows, magazine ads, and when (and when not) to use them How to measure success when ROI isn't immediate 🎯 Timestamps: 00:00 — Why household-name remodelers dominate neighborhoods 04:00 — Who "top of funnel" marketing is really for 10:00 — Truck wraps, yard signs, and company shirts as branding tools 23:20 — Using social media effectively (paid and organic) 30:00 — How to turn high-performing posts into local ads 40:00 — Building and nurturing your email list 49:55 — Direct mail: how to make it worth the cost 54:58 — Trade shows and community event sponsorships 57:21 — Billboards, magazine ads, and long-term brand recall 01:00:46 — Tracking top-of-funnel performance through branded searches

    1h 9m

  5. 10/22/2025

    #471 Getting Found in the AI Era

    In this episode of the Contractor Growth Network podcast, Logan and Aaron break down how artificial intelligence (AI) is changing the way homeowners search for remodelers—and what you need to do to keep getting found. With tools like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Google's AI Overviews shifting how search results are delivered, contractors who rely on organic leads can't afford to sit this out. From local SEO to AI-friendly website structure, Logan shares what's working right now (October 2025) and how remodelers can prepare for a future where search engines are smarter—and less likely to send users to your site by default. If you've heard phrases like "zero-click search" or "retrieval augmented generation" and don't know how they affect your marketing, this is the episode to listen to. Free Webinar Link: Logan is hosting a free live webinar on November 6, 2025 at 2:00 PM EST to go even deeper on this topic—with tactical examples and live Q&A. 👉 [Register here] https://www.contractorgrowthnetwork.com/google-ai-remodeler/ Can't make it live? Use the same link to access the replay after the event. 🔑 Key Takeaways The Game Is Changing—But Not Gone → Google still dominates local search (AI Overviews only show in ~6% of local searches). → Organic SEO is still king—but AI is adding new rules to the playbook. AI Search Works Differently Than Google Search → Tools like Gemini and ChatGPT don't just scan top search results—they combine multiple searches and synthesize answers. → If you're not in the top 10 organic results, you may be invisible in AI search. SEO Fundamentals Still Matter → Clear website structure, fast load times, keyword strategy, and quality content are still foundational. → Blogs and project pages should be conversational and answer real homeowner questions. Citations and Consistency Are More Important Than Ever → The more places your business info appears (and matches), the more credible you seem to AI and Google. → Directory listings, Houzz profiles, YouTube videos, and local backlinks all help. Get Found Where the AI Is Looking → It's not just about your website anymore—YouTube, Google Business, Instagram, and even Houzz or Angie listings can all feed AI. → Quality, relevance, and proof-based content wins in every search format. 🧠 Memorable Quotes "If you're not in the top 10 organic search results, you're not getting found by AI search tools." "Google wants to keep people on Google. So if your site doesn't offer a better experience, they won't send users to you." "AI search isn't about clever hacks—it's about clarity, credibility, and being everywhere your ideal client is." ✅ Action Steps Check your Google Business Profile for accuracy and reviews Reformat your blogs to include question-based headers (AI scans better this way) Get listed on trusted directories like Houzz, Yelp, and local chambers Structure your site to make important pages 1–2 clicks from the homepage Continue investing in SEO—the top 10 spots matter more than ever

    58 min

  6. 10/08/2025

    #470 What Your Website Is Actually Meant to Do

    Most remodelers see their website as a brochure—but it should act like a salesperson. In this episode, Logan and Aaron explain how your site can guide homeowners through the same trust-building process as an in-person consultation. From project storytelling and emotional connection to page flow and calls-to-action, they break down what turns casual browsers into high-quality leads—and how to future-proof your site for the coming era of AI search. Timestamps 00:00 Why your website matters – It's not just "online presence," it's your digital salesperson. 03:29 Traffic vs. conversion – Why more visitors don't fix a bad website. 04:45 What homeowners really want – Proof, price, process, and trust. 09:59 Sell excitement, not necessity – Remodeling is emotional, not logical. 13:18 How to self-assess – Does your site answer the right homeowner questions? 19:33 Story-driven websites – Turning photos into HGTV-style transformations. 26:56 The feature project page – How storytelling doubles engagement. 45:16 Beyond project pages – Why process and service pages build trust and SEO. 52:42 Preparing for AI search – Structuring your site so future tools can read and recommend it.

    1h 8m

  7. 09/24/2025

    #469 Why Should They Pick You? | LIVE FROM REMODELERS SUMMIT 2025

    Taking a short break from our ongoing "Full marketing strategy" series, this week's episode features Aaron's live presentation from Remodelers Summit 2025, "Why Should they Pick You? (How to Showcase Your Unique Value on Your Website)." In this presentation Aaron lays out some of the insights he's learned as a traveling videographer and speaking to remodeling clients all across the country.    You've Worked Hard on Your Client Experience. Don't Let It Get Lost in a Sea of Sameness. Your website should do more than list your services, it should instantly show homeowners why you are the right choice. In this session, we'll walk you through how to clearly define your Ideal Client Avatar and Unique Selling Proposition, then translate them into a website that truly sets you apart. You'll discover how to: Use storytelling and education to connect with the right clients. Build Featured Project Pages that showcase your craftsmanship and process. Elevate your brand with professional photography that builds trust at first glance.

    40 min

  8. 09/10/2025

    #468 Photos and Videos That Actually Help Sell Projects

    Most remodelers do details their competition doesn't—whether it's quality, communication, or process. But prospects don't see that. All they know is what they see online: your photos, your videos, your testimonials. In this episode, Aaron and Logan break down how to avoid wasting money on the wrong photographers or videographers, what separates good media from bad, and how the right visuals can sell jobs before you even step into the home. FOR VISUAL EXAMPLES OF WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EPISODE, HEAD TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/@ContractorGrowthNetwork Timestamps 00:00 Why your media matters – How the right photos and videos let prospects picture themselves in your finished spaces. 05:12 What makes a good or bad remodeling photo? – Staging, lighting, detail shots, and avoiding the "iPhone-only" trap. 14:38 What photographer should you hire? – Real estate vs. architectural vs. interior design photographers. 30:08 The three types of videographers – Social content creators, technical "film school" types, and storytellers. 36:31 Which videographer should you hire? – How to choose based on storytelling ability, not just visuals. 56:46 Using design/renderings in your sales – Helping homeowners "see it" before committing, and why visuals drive confidence.

    1h 5m
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Growing up as the son of a successful contractor, Logan experienced firsthand the benefits of a healthy contracting business: less stress, more money, and more time for family. Now Logan runs Contractor Growth Network to help guide you on your journey to create a strong and reliable contracting business for your family. Interested in learning more? Visit contractorgrowthnetwork.com or join our Facebook group, Common Sense Contracting, today.

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