Since 2009, Eat Your Words has covered what's new and happening in the world of food through its literature. A radio dispatch from Cathy Erway, founder of the blog Not Eating Out In New York, Cathy was joined by authors of books that you would want to eat up! From colorful cookbooks, to food memoirs, to exposés on the food industry, every conversation is full of meaty topics for discussion.
Now, in 2023, Eat Your Words is proud to present its first limited-run series. We've partnered with John deBary, author of "Drink What You Want," to create a companion podcast that dives deep into the production of his newest cocktail book. "Saved by the Bellini" is all about 90's nostalgia. "Saved by the Bellini" includes over 65 recipes that celebrate the decade’s greatest pop culture moments, from cassette tape tunes and video game consoles to after-school snacks and OMG-it’s-back-again fashion. In this 7-episode series, John interviews the editors, illustrators, and cocktail innovators who helped to make this book a reality.
Bar Icon Jim Meehan
When John got started in the cocktail world, Jim Meehan was his first boss at the acclaimed neo-speakeasy, PDT (Please Don’t Tell). Jim also wrote the foreword to John’s first book, Drink What You Want. The finale of this miniseries, this is a touching interview between two longtime friends and colleague, and ultimately ends up being as much of an interview of John as it is of Jim.
Editor Amanda Englander
Editors are the unseen heroes of the publishing world, offering critical behind-the-scenes feedback that can take an author’s work from good to spectacular. Amanda has not only been John’s editor for both Saved by the Bellini and Drink What You Want, she’s also a dear friend. Here they chat about Amanda’s start in publishing, her editing process, and why she chose to focus on cookbooks.
Bar Icon Julie Reiner
Julie Reiner is one of John’s bar heroes. Although he never formally worked for her, she had a tremendous impact on his career. In the course of his research for Saved by the Bellini, he came across a New York Times article from 2000 in which Julie was quoted for her Appletini recipe. Listen to them chat about Julie’s favorite Appletini spec and dive deeper into the actual bartending conditions in the 90s. (Spoiler alert: they weren’t as bad as everyone thinks!)
Artist Mel Chin
One of the most interesting references in Saved by the Bellini is to Melrose Place, the Beverly Hills 90210 spinoff that was one of the first primetime network shows to feature a gay character. Unbeknownst to many viewers at the time, Mel Chin led a group of conceptual artists to quietly install props into the show that referenced various societal issues like racism, alcohol use, and reproductive health. Here John interviews Mel about the origin story of the project and how it was a preview of our current easter egg-obsessed media habits.
Author Brian Raftery
A significant portion of Saved by the Bellini is devoted to the iconic movies that defined the decade. A few years before writing Saved by the Bellini, John read Best. Movie. Year. Ever: How 1999 Blew Up the Big Screen by journalist Brian Raftery. Listen to hear just how much of an impact Brian’s book had on John’s writing process, Brian’s reflections on journalism in the 90s, and why 1999 is the most “90s” year of the 90s.
Bartender Toby Cecchini
John’s exploration of the world of Saved by the Bellini takes a turn towards drinks this episode with a conversation with legendary bartender Toby Cecchini, the inventor of the iconic Cosmopolitan recipe. Hear them chat about the wild backstory of the Comopolitan’s disputed authorship, Madonna’s nickname for him, and what bartending was actually like in the 1990s.
Love this show
Every episode’s guest is so different but each conversation is fascinating. The host doesn’t insert himself much but instead asks just a few key questions and thoughtful responses to dig deeper. So much fun.
NEVER MISS ANY OF THE SHOW.
This show is PHENOMENAL. It is completely different from what you heard on Munchies, Eaters, or Bon Appetite. This shownParmigiano-Reggiano whilst all the rest of food podcasts are American cheese. No offense to American cheese. The show features really great stories from great figures, chefs, and scholars as to everything related with food. This is a must listen for people who love food. Thanks for making such a phenomenal podcast. Peace!
Guests are fantastic, host has no clue what she’s doing
I enjoyed Erway’s book about not eating out in NYC & she is clearly someone who knows about food. Unfortunately, neither of those things makes up for how out of her depth she is in the capacity of host/interviewer. Recent listens illustrated how her experienced, eloquent guests (Tamar Adler, Diana Henry) generously & repeatedly bailed her out of unfinished sentences that go nowhere, halting questions that reveal her unpreparedness, & countless “ums,” “likes,” and giggles. Cathy, if you read any reviews, you are clearly passionate about food and cooking & hosting this podcast is an amazing platform. But PLEASE learn something substantive about your guests & prepare some pertinent questions that aren’t worded in a “yes/no” format. You are not a high school student in a beginning journalism class, but you sound like one.