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Why has burnout culture been normalised in activism and how can we change it?
Arifa Nasim founded Educate2Eradicate, a non-profit organisation committed to spreading knowledge to prevent the hundreds of thousands of individuals at risk from experiencing forced marriage, genital mutilation and honour-based abuse. Arifa has educated more than 5,000 individuals and plans to grow Educate2Eradicate into a holistic program, training larger organisations and offering counseling and legal advice to victims. Arifa was an official UK delegate to the Sustainable Development Goals Summit.
In the penultimate episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Arifa Nasim to explore why burnout culture has become normalised within activism and what we can do to actively change it. Finally, Arifa spills her climate confession!
Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about female genital mutilation, suicide and forced marriage. So please listen with care.
“There is a reason I’m much happier now; there is time for spiritual rest, and creative rest and physical rest. Now that I know better, I don’t know that I’d ever go back” -Arifa Nasim
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How does the climate crisis make you feel?
Mitzi Jonelle Tan is a full-time climate justice activist based in Metro Manila, Philippines. She is the convenor and international spokesperson of Youth Advocates for Climate Action Philippines, the Fridays For Future of the Philippines. A strong voice on anti-imperialism, anti-colonization, and the intersectionality of the climate crisis, she is committed to changing the system and building a world that prioritizes people and planet, not profit, through collective action.
In the 7th episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Mitzi Jonelle Tan to explore the difference between eco-anxiety and eco-trauma, and how to understand our emotions. They discuss how to keep showing up and the power of community in cultivating mindset shifts from anxiety to agency. Finally, Mitzi spills her climate confession!
“Knowing that you’re not alone in it really helps. Knowing that the collective action aspect of activism is so crucial. Even if you don’t see anyone else who is anxious, there are people who are fighting alongside you fighting.” - Mitzi Jonelle Tan
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Finally, if you haven't heard the word 'senti' before, it means 'sensitive' - IYDKGTK ;)
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Why is it so difficult to chat with family and friends about causes you care about?
Jamie Windust is a an author, content creator and Contributing Editor at GAY TIMES. They made headlines in 2018 for calling out the staff of Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald for "Misogyny, homophobia, transphobia everywhere", and in 2019 for petitioning the UK Parliament for gender-neutral passport options. In 2020, they published their book, ‘In Their Shoes: Navigating Non-Binary Life’ and continues to write for publications such as Metro UK, The Independent and GAY TIMES to compassionately share LGBTQ+ stories with the world.
Fehinti Balogun is an actor, creator, and activist. He has worked in theatre, film and television, with recent performances including Dune, I May Destroy You, ITV's Viewpoint, Netflix's The Bastard Son & The Devil Himself and Juliet Naked. Alongside his acting career, he delivers talks on climate change aimed at more rounded inclusion in the climate conversation.
In the sixth episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Jamie Windust and Fehinti Balogun to explore how to ruin Christmas! First up, Clover and Jamie discuss the expectations placed on individuals to be and oftentimes represent someone they aren’t. Then, Clover speaks with Fehinti about the difficulties of waking up to the climate crisis while navigating our day-to-day lives. To wrap up, both Jamie and Fehinti spill their juiciest climate confessions.
“Take your time finding out who you are first and not existing as someone who you think other people want you to be.” - Jamie Windust
"Climate change isn’t the problem. Climate change is a symptom of the problem. Climate change wouldn’t exist if it didn’t make someone money.” - Fehinti Balogun
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Sometimes we have to remind ourselves who or what the true enemy is…
Sophia Kianni is an Iranian-American social entrepreneur and activist. She studied at Stanford University and is the founder of Climate Cardinals, the world’s largest youth-led climate nonprofit, with 10,000 volunteers in 80+ countries. She is the youngest United Nations advisor in US history. She was most recently appointed to serve on the EPA’s National Youth Advisory Council.
In the fifth episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover chats with Sophia Kianni to explore how cancel culture impedes activism and how to redirect our energies to keep pressure on institutions with power. Stay tuned to hear Sophia spilling her climate confession.
“We’re all just a series of contradictions. Nobody is perfect. The eco-influencers aren’t perfect.” - Sophia Kianni
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Wait, you’re getting paid to be here?!
Isaias Hernandez (he/they) is an educator and creative from Los Angeles. He’s more commonly known by his moniker, Queer Brown Vegan: the independent media platform he started to bring intersectional environmental education to all. They’ve been featured in Vogue, New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and Yale Climate Communications. His social media advocacy earned him recognition as a top climate creator by Harvard C-CHANGE.
Being overworked and underpaid is a reality in many activist spaces. In the fourth episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover chats with Isaias Hernandez about unpaid labour in activism and the difficulties of building his career whilst receiving scrutiny for his own choices in climate spaces. Stick around to hear Isaias spill their climate confession.
“I was invited to do a speaking engagement and I asked, ‘how much are you paying?’ — I was gaslighted and told that it should be an honor and privilege that I talk in this space because they don’t usually give out opportunities like that.” - Isaias Hernandez
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Have you ever felt imposter syndrome because of your age?
Ziad Ahmed (he/him) is an American-Muslim-Bangladeshi entrepreneur and speaker. He's the CEO/Co-Founder of JUV Consulting, a Generation Z consultancy that has collaborated with over 20 Fortune 500 companies, gaining recognition from the New York Times and earning him a spot on Forbes' 2019 #30Under30 list at the age of 19.
Severn Cullis-Suzuki gained international attention at the age of 12 when she delivered her famous speech at the UN Earth Summit in Rio in 1992. The speech earned her the moniker "The Girl Who Silenced the World for 5 Minutes." and she received recognition in the United Nations Environment Programme's Global 500 Roll of Honour. Severn has continued to speak to audiences around the world about the necessity of keeping the future in mind for environmental sustainability and has published several books including, ‘The Day You Will Change the World’.
In the third episode of season 3, Confessions of a Climate Activist, Clover sits down with Ziad Ahmed and Severn Cullis-Suzuki to explore how it feels to wear the label of a 'youth activist' and the messiness and nuance that comes with it. The episode ends with a juicy climate confession from both Ziad and Severn!
”I believe that so many more of us deserve a seat at the table.” - Ziad Ahmed
“There’s something really powerful about young people standing up for future generations.” - Severn Cullis-Suzuki
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