56 episodes

A daoist and a designer explore design, technology, health and wellbeing, and the future of everything.

Join Jost Sauer (author, rebel therapist, daoist and expert in traditional Chinese medicine) and Leon Fitzpatrick (industrial and experience designer, educator and futurist), as they discuss health, daoism, design, cars, martial arts, the search for purpose, and the meaning of life. Unplanned, off the cuff, and spontaneous. Welcome to the Future Chi podcast!

Future Chi Leon Fitzpatrick & Jost Sauer

    • Arts

A daoist and a designer explore design, technology, health and wellbeing, and the future of everything.

Join Jost Sauer (author, rebel therapist, daoist and expert in traditional Chinese medicine) and Leon Fitzpatrick (industrial and experience designer, educator and futurist), as they discuss health, daoism, design, cars, martial arts, the search for purpose, and the meaning of life. Unplanned, off the cuff, and spontaneous. Welcome to the Future Chi podcast!

    Ep 56: Stirring It Up - Inflammation, Building Your Own Lifeboat, the Emotionality of Destruction and the Phoenix Rising

    Ep 56: Stirring It Up - Inflammation, Building Your Own Lifeboat, the Emotionality of Destruction and the Phoenix Rising

    Respectful discourses, nuanced conversations, and the ability to explore and express ideas that challenge mainstream thinking seems to be a thing of the past. These days it’s hard to have a conversation without fear of judgement or the feeling that someone is picking a side for you (even if you haven’t picked one for yourself). Ideas have been replaced by ideologies, and as a result extremism, tribalism and the need to constantly fight for the ‘right’ side of an issue keeps us divided and angry at one another. Inflammatory thoughts, words, actions however don’t come out of the blue, and once again we need look no further than within to figure out what’s going on. 

    In this episode Jost and Leon turn up the heat and get into the role that inflammation plays in how we perceive the world and the reality we create as a result. Like forging steel, accomplishing something worth doing requires heat and stress, but also a cooling and repairing process in order for it to achieve it’s full strength and potential. Burning the old in order to create the new means that we must experience inflammation - but if we remain in that phase of the process without a path forward, things take a turn for the worse. Jost talks about his early experiences with Marxism and how it’s become so unrecognisable that it may as well be called something else (which leads to a brainstorming session). Jost also gets into the process of inflammation from a health, bodybuilding, and traditional Chinese medicine perspective and how to treat this naturally by focusing on Blood production, building new tissues and choosing the right foods and herbs. He also discusses the madness of the dying world and the need to access portals to our higher selves, the importance of transcending emotionality, and how to avoid being entangled in the mundane and negative aspects of life and instead focus on community, sharing, and awakening. Leon talks about the learned-not-felt nature of ideology, the insanity of spray painting Stone Henge to express an ‘environmental’ message, the pointlessness of anarchy without vision, what Darth Vader and the outgoing elites have in common, and what Wim Hoff would have done if he was on the Titanic. 

    The focus on doom, gloom and the inevitability of the apocalypse takes us closer to that reality, but these are the trappings of the dying world that would rather have us rearrange the chairs on the Titanic instead of being captains of our own ship. If we’re to approach the future with trust, sympathy and understanding then we must be prepared to burn ourselves in our own flame first - to build and temper ourselves - so that we can be a force for good. Don’t ponder the past, or get bogged down by negative people in the present. Our job is to keep cool, and keep going.


    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Ep 55: The Eraser - Simplifying Infinity, Opening Meridians, Transmuting Trauma, and the Art of Forgetting

    Ep 55: The Eraser - Simplifying Infinity, Opening Meridians, Transmuting Trauma, and the Art of Forgetting

    If it feels like everything is happening all at once, you’re not alone. The past is colliding with the present in such an intense way that it’s hard not to feel the effects. Disagreements, emotionally charged conversations, war, conflict, and suffering; it’s trauma on every channel and there doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it off. But there’s a powerful way to to turn this trauma into something new.

    The pain we’ve experienced over the course of multiple lifetimes is stored in the same way we store data on our phones and computers, and if we don’t clear our cache our system slows down and we find ourselves entangled by old emotions, ideas, and memories. So this week Jost and Leon get busy dropping the f word: forgetting! Jost talks about the baggage we carry with us from our past lives, why we get good or bad vibes from people we’ve only just met, how the power of acupuncture can clear out old data and set us up to create new worlds, and how there are always guides around to help us (and one even pops up during the pod to remind him!) Leon talks about the messages behind the underrated masterpiece Tron: Legacy, the beauty of simplifying complexity through design, and how he totally forgot to have asthma.

    Jost and Leon also discuss off-roading in inappropriate vehicles, how to (not) pull a bank job on a skateboard, the future of currency, the 5 elements, spontaneous self becoming, phantom limbs, and how we shouldn’t focus on forgiveness, but rather, forgetting.

    Things tend to make sense in hindsight, but we can’t quantify, predict or plan for what comes next because it’s imperceivable. Analysts, historians and experts can’t give us a map for the way forward. Instead of trying to know what’s happening next we have to embrace the unknown, and pave our way forward accordingly. But the first step is to erase the old and bring in the new. Go forget yourself!


    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Ep 54: Rebirth - Rebels, Reactivity, Neo-Physics, Ascended Masters and Entering the Ether

    Ep 54: Rebirth - Rebels, Reactivity, Neo-Physics, Ascended Masters and Entering the Ether

    In this episode of Future Chi Jost and Leon are broadcasting from their 4th studio location, and what turns out to be Jost’s 11th clinic since starting his practice in 1991. This leads them into the topics of new beginnings, adaptation, improvisation and paradigm shifts, and the importance of creativity when it comes to creating change and resisting the forces of darkness. They also kick things off with a discussion on Terrence Howard’s recent mind bending podcast with Joe Rogan and its implications on technology, spirituality, Newtonian physics, and Cartesian coordinates, and it’s parallels with Taoism and traditional Chinese Medicine. 

    Jost talks about the importance of knowing and living your true nature, the correlations between dark matter and cosmic chi (hint - they are one in the same), how to merge old knowledge with the new, and how the interaction between elements is more important than their individual properties. Jost also talks about the sharp rise in reactive patterns in people, communicating with ascended masters, and how the higher the state of consciousness we reach the less we’re able to talk about it. Leon talks about the value of being light and nimble when it comes to defeating the bad guys, the rebellious nature of true creativity, and removing yourself from the equation when it comes to picking sides. He also talks about alien cloaking devices and the value of creativity in education. 

    Jost and Leon also talk about the impact that judgement has on global conflicts, the recent failure of the WHO pandemic treaty, David vs Goliath, St. Germain, using divestment as a tool to create change, and what Spiritual Social Media would look like. 

    Every day is a chance to be reborn, and now’s the time to have faith in what you can’t see, react less but interact more, detach from judgement and don’t be afraid to wipe the slate clean and start over

    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 16 min
    Ep 53: Simulations - The Matrix, Projections, Base Reality, Life Between Lives, and The Higher Self

    Ep 53: Simulations - The Matrix, Projections, Base Reality, Life Between Lives, and The Higher Self

    What is real? How do we define real? Is this the real life or is this just fantasy? Thought experiments, debates, and investigations into the nature of reality and whether or not we’re in a simulation have been ongoing for centuries. The further down the technological road we go, the increasingly relevant this discussion becomes. As we bear witness to computer generated worlds indistinguishable from (what we perceive as) reality, the question of illusion vs truth becomes more pressing. What if this is all just a simulation, but not a technological one? What if we aren’t being enslaved by AI overlords but are in fact benefitting from the simulation in order to achieve a higher goal? 
    In this episode Jost and Leon get real with a lively discussion on simulations, projections, the ‘afterlife’, and how we can stay connected to reality. Leon gets started (predictably) with pyramids and UFOs, and can’t resist referencing his all-time favourite movie The Matrix (which he may or may not have seen over 40 times). He also wonders if we should look at destiny as a rail or a road, and has a mid-podcast realisation that if you’re busy finding and following your purpose, then you’re less likely to stress about the nature of reality and will instead get busy creating it. Jost talks about the Taoist perspective on simulation and the way laughter, love, and experiences of the heart are ways to access base reality and instantly become real. He also talks about the concept of the higher self, the ‘life between lives’ as described by Michael Newton, what theorists, academics and scientists are missing when it comes to understanding the nature of reality, and how the feeling that there is something missing in ourselves is a result of how much soul energy we bring with us from the other side. 
    Jost and Leon also get into the danger of creating simulations within simulations, how negative forces are attempting to centralise their version of reality, and how decentralisation is the way forward in more ways than one. They also talk about mesh networks, quantum healing, the evolutionary leaps of Tai Chi, bar fights, how to properly experience socks, and how to fill voids in the soul. 
    That being said, no one can be told what this episode is… you have to listen to it yourself. 
     
    Check out Jost's 'Open the Portal to your Higher Self' video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFvbchAzylE
    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/
    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 11 min
    Ep 52: Fear Forces - Phobias, Polarity, Transhumanism, Self Healing, and Accessing Divinity

    Ep 52: Fear Forces - Phobias, Polarity, Transhumanism, Self Healing, and Accessing Divinity

    The battle between opposing forces is palpable these days. Good and evil, light and dark, left and right…it’s hard to not become embroiled in who’s right and who’s wrong or to be forced to pick a side, and it feels like the future of everything hangs in the balance. But there’s a difference between feeling our way forward and being internally guided to do the right thing, versus being convinced, bullied or scared into subscribing the latest set of rules and ideologies.

    The good news is we need opposing forces and polar opposites to create a field of reality to operate within…it’s why we’re here. We need challenges, battles to fight, and various fear factors to ignite our purpose and sharpen our skills, but this can take a wrong turn. Fear can also be weaponised and used to derail our journey through life and seperate us from ourselves.

    In this episode Jost and Leon get into all aspects of fear - from a pre-podcast close encounter with a deadly spider to the progression of fear that can lead to anger, hate and ultimately the death of the soul. Jost talks about the confluence of pharmaceuticals, sedentary lifestyles and sugar filled diets that are destroying our bodies, how this detaches us from our inherent ability to heal ourselves, and how anything that is fear inducing must be recognised as a weapon. He also talks about the rise of transhumanism, and how the fear of death and reliance on tech can burn the bridge between us and our higher selves. Leon talks about the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters, Thoth the Atlantean, how to stay on your path despite the people who want to knock you off it, and the amazing abundance of information at our fingertips to help us through this next phase of existence. 

    Jost and Leon also talk about the prophetic nature of movies, the inverted nutritional value of Twinkies, boxing kangaroos, the turning tide of a mass awakening, the circus of Australian politics, and how the Taoists define the difference between fear and phobia.   

    When it comes to fear and those who want to control us the next steps are simple: laugh it off, build your spirit, access your own divinity and get strong. The more powerful we become, they weaker they get. Fight the fear!

    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Ep 51: Future Perfect - Optimism, Teleportation, Timeless Techniques, New Frontiers and Designing Desire

    Ep 51: Future Perfect - Optimism, Teleportation, Timeless Techniques, New Frontiers and Designing Desire

    What will the future bring? What was once an exciting, optimistic and limitless concept has now become something to be anxious about, fear and even criticise. But the future is a journey, not a destination, and while science fiction stories, movies and the design of everyday things often gives us a glimpse of what’s on the horizon, it’s still always tethered to the past. So how do we detach ourselves from outdated modalities and conditioning, ditch the negative baggage and get aboard the future train? 

    While we don’t know what tomorrow will bring, in this week’s episode Jost and Leon talk about all things past, present and future, and how we all need to play a roll in the redesign of everything - especially ourselves. After a muddy experience with his Mini, Jost gets into the reality of levitation, teleportation and telekinesis which even Western research says is within us all. He also talks about the new paradigms that are needed for us to see what’s already there, the timeless origins of Tai Chi, the need to disconnect from the old and tap into new sources of chi, and the importance of feeling good to create good design from the inside out. Leon discusses the late, great automotive designer Marcello Gandini, how futuristic design is still a reflection of the past, the optimism of the space age, and how we should no longer ask the audience’s opinion on anything.

    Jost and Leon also chat about Asimov’s 3 laws of robotics, hoverboards, soul awakenings and the next spiritual revolution, the future of education, the challenges with being a creator, and the dark truth about Star Trek’s teleporters. 

    If we expect the future to resemble the past we’ll miss opportunities to create the new that’s desperately needed in the world. We can’t overthink it either, we have to just get out there, do it, and feel our way forward. Don’t fear the future, be the future.

    • 45 min

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