52 episodes

A daoist and a designer explore design, technology, health and wellbeing, and the future of everything.

Join Jost Sauer (author, rebel therapist, daoist and expert in traditional Chinese medicine) and Leon Fitzpatrick (industrial and experience designer, educator and futurist), as they discuss health, daoism, design, cars, martial arts, the search for purpose, and the meaning of life. Unplanned, off the cuff, and spontaneous. Welcome to the Future Chi podcast!

Future Chi Leon Fitzpatrick & Jost Sauer

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A daoist and a designer explore design, technology, health and wellbeing, and the future of everything.

Join Jost Sauer (author, rebel therapist, daoist and expert in traditional Chinese medicine) and Leon Fitzpatrick (industrial and experience designer, educator and futurist), as they discuss health, daoism, design, cars, martial arts, the search for purpose, and the meaning of life. Unplanned, off the cuff, and spontaneous. Welcome to the Future Chi podcast!

    Ep 52: Fear Forces - Phobias, Polarity, Transhumanism, Self Healing, and Accessing Divinity

    Ep 52: Fear Forces - Phobias, Polarity, Transhumanism, Self Healing, and Accessing Divinity

    The battle between opposing forces is palpable these days. Good and evil, light and dark, left and right…it’s hard to not become embroiled in who’s right and who’s wrong or to be forced to pick a side, and it feels like the future of everything hangs in the balance. But there’s a difference between feeling our way forward and being internally guided to do the right thing, versus being convinced, bullied or scared into subscribing the latest set of rules and ideologies.

    The good news is we need opposing forces and polar opposites to create a field of reality to operate within…it’s why we’re here. We need challenges, battles to fight, and various fear factors to ignite our purpose and sharpen our skills, but this can take a wrong turn. Fear can also be weaponised and used to derail our journey through life and seperate us from ourselves.

    In this episode Jost and Leon get into all aspects of fear - from a pre-podcast close encounter with a deadly spider to the progression of fear that can lead to anger, hate and ultimately the death of the soul. Jost talks about the confluence of pharmaceuticals, sedentary lifestyles and sugar filled diets that are destroying our bodies, how this detaches us from our inherent ability to heal ourselves, and how anything that is fear inducing must be recognised as a weapon. He also talks about the rise of transhumanism, and how the fear of death and reliance on tech can burn the bridge between us and our higher selves. Leon talks about the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters, Thoth the Atlantean, how to stay on your path despite the people who want to knock you off it, and the amazing abundance of information at our fingertips to help us through this next phase of existence. 

    Jost and Leon also talk about the prophetic nature of movies, the inverted nutritional value of Twinkies, boxing kangaroos, the turning tide of a mass awakening, the circus of Australian politics, and how the Taoists define the difference between fear and phobia.   

    When it comes to fear and those who want to control us the next steps are simple: laugh it off, build your spirit, access your own divinity and get strong. The more powerful we become, they weaker they get. Fight the fear!

    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Ep 51: Future Perfect - Optimism, Teleportation, Timeless Techniques, New Frontiers and Designing Desire

    Ep 51: Future Perfect - Optimism, Teleportation, Timeless Techniques, New Frontiers and Designing Desire

    What will the future bring? What was once an exciting, optimistic and limitless concept has now become something to be anxious about, fear and even criticise. But the future is a journey, not a destination, and while science fiction stories, movies and the design of everyday things often gives us a glimpse of what’s on the horizon, it’s still always tethered to the past. So how do we detach ourselves from outdated modalities and conditioning, ditch the negative baggage and get aboard the future train? 

    While we don’t know what tomorrow will bring, in this week’s episode Jost and Leon talk about all things past, present and future, and how we all need to play a roll in the redesign of everything - especially ourselves. After a muddy experience with his Mini, Jost gets into the reality of levitation, teleportation and telekinesis which even Western research says is within us all. He also talks about the new paradigms that are needed for us to see what’s already there, the timeless origins of Tai Chi, the need to disconnect from the old and tap into new sources of chi, and the importance of feeling good to create good design from the inside out. Leon discusses the late, great automotive designer Marcello Gandini, how futuristic design is still a reflection of the past, the optimism of the space age, and how we should no longer ask the audience’s opinion on anything.

    Jost and Leon also chat about Asimov’s 3 laws of robotics, hoverboards, soul awakenings and the next spiritual revolution, the future of education, the challenges with being a creator, and the dark truth about Star Trek’s teleporters. 

    If we expect the future to resemble the past we’ll miss opportunities to create the new that’s desperately needed in the world. We can’t overthink it either, we have to just get out there, do it, and feel our way forward. Don’t fear the future, be the future.

    • 45 min
    Ep 50: The Self - Genius, Madness, Colliding Worlds, the God Molecule, and the Fear Igniter

    Ep 50: The Self - Genius, Madness, Colliding Worlds, the God Molecule, and the Fear Igniter

    The more we attempt to make sense of the world at the moment, the more confusing everything becomes. Up is down, left is right, and it’s feeling a lot like the inmates are running the asylum. But in a mad world is being crazy simply a matter of perspective? What do the words mad, crazy, or insane even mean?

    With aspects of physical reality colliding left, right and centre, Jost and Leon get onboard the crazy train to try and decode not just what’s happening, but what we can do about it. Jost discusses his ‘mad’ past as a drug user, smuggler, hippy and outcast and the baffling recent developments in Germany as they simultaneously enter into a ‘pre-war’ phase and legalise marijuana. He also gets into the need to combine Eastern internal energy development with external Western strength training, how the focus on materiality moves us away from both the self and ultimately the soul, and the power of fear as a catalyst for evolution. Leon talks about the thin line between creativity and craziness, and the importance of being yourself when it comes to cultivating and sharing your passion with the world. Jost and Leon also talk about the superpowers of D3, Rupert Sheldrake and the morphogenetic field, Navy SEALs, and the surprising connection between spirituality and survival skills. 

    The more crazy and unstable things become the more fear and uncertainty increase, but these things are necessary for us to discover who we really are and what we’re capable of. We can’t have an incredible gift without a corresponding weakness or liability, so it’s our job to dig deep, face our fears, and become ourselves.


    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Ep 49: Food for Thought - Diets, Synergy, Superfoods, Permaculture, and Unified Fields

    Ep 49: Food for Thought - Diets, Synergy, Superfoods, Permaculture, and Unified Fields

    In this episode, Jost and Leon chew the fat on all things food - from agriculture, permaculture and industrial food production, to superfoods, alcohol, porridge and the mystery and misunderstandings around the topic of dieting. 

    The conversation kicks off on the topic of our unhealthy and unsustainable system of food production, the current uprising of farmers around the world, and how we must find a way forward that unifies technology, spirituality and our own intelligence. Monocultures and processed food are bad for the ecosystem and bad for our health,  but there’s a deeper, internal issue that has to be addressed when it comes to food. Beyond just what we eat, the physical and mental state we’re in when we eat have a huge impact on our health and wellbeing.

    Jost talks about the metabolic syndrome epidemic affecting 90% of the world, and how the underlying factor is not just poor food choices but stress and a lack of purpose. Jost also discusses the need to target emotionality before diet, how to see the body as its own permaculture system, the concept of happy foods, and his clinical observations of where vegan and raw diets can lead. Leon chats about the problems with one-size-fits-all solutions and the importance of doing what you can, with what you have, where you are.

    Jost and Leon trade their very different experiences with alcohol and have an in-depth chat about what ‘good food’ really is. They also get into the indestructible cars of the 80’s, the correlation between road rage and sandwiches, Jost’s fruit loops breakfast recipe, belly fat, bottled air, and how the beginning of your day dictates the end. 

    Eating is about unification, not isolation, so it may be time to rethink your relationship with food. Don’t worry, eat happy!


    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Ep 48: Out of Cortex: Chimeras, Psychosis, Mental Warfare, Energy Armour, and the Decline of the Amygdala

    Ep 48: Out of Cortex: Chimeras, Psychosis, Mental Warfare, Energy Armour, and the Decline of the Amygdala

    Why do some people see through lies while others go along with them? What makes us either blindly follow the rules or challenge the prevailing narrative? What makes us feel safe, helps us make decisions, and allows us to freely and truthfully express ourselves? Turns out these things are all related and are affiliated with the small and humble amygdala. But what happens when it becomes damaged? What happens when we can’t regulate emotions like fear and anxiety? Inexplicable actions and downright chaos ensues, and this means there may very well be a biological basis for the bizarre behaviour over the past few years. 

    This week’s episode tackles the heady topic of the human brain, with a special focus on the amygdala, which, according to the latest research, has lost its protective layers and is in sharp decline. But in true Future Chi fashion we don’t stay in the head; the rest of the body, mind, and spirit comes along for the ride too.

    Jost and Leon discuss not only the insanity of recent years, but the path leading up to it, and how nutrient deficient foods, sedentary lifestyles and mental weakness left many exposed and susceptible to manipulation. Jost talks about the energy Organs in Chinese medicine and how they must work in concert, the need to upgrade our hardware (body) to deal with life’s challenges, and how Earth is the hardest planet in the multiverse to exist on. Leon talks about cerebral warfare, mental immunity, pushovers, and how to avoid internalising the industrial process. 

    Jost and Leon also talk the repetitive cycle of the broken political system and the imperative for personal responsibility and preparedness when dealing with societal challenges. True unity and the evolution of humankind hinge on our actions, rather than faith in a new leader. They also chat about jazz, James Dean, zombie hordes, mass formation phenomenon, fringe living, invisible amygdala monsters and the brain eating chimera from The Relic movie.

    It’s now more important than ever to defend against the fear and negativity that others are spreading, by strengthening your energy armour through how you live: breath work, nutrition, and connecting to the cosmic chi grid. Keep the defences strong, fight off the energy vampires and mindless mobs, and guard your internal world from external chaos. May the chi be with you!

    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 57 min
    Ep 47: Power - Jing, Self Reliance, False Idols, the Golden Rule, and the Essence of Life

    Ep 47: Power - Jing, Self Reliance, False Idols, the Golden Rule, and the Essence of Life

    Welcome to Future Chi, where once again we’re broadcasting from a log cabin, on a nature preserve, somewhere in the hills of Queensland, Australia. Off the bat this leads to a reflection on living in isolation, living free of critique, and how to break through the sheath that surrounds our true selves. This reflection on self reliance leads Jost and Leon to get into the topic of true power; where it comes from, how to cultivate it, and how to tell the difference between imitation and authenticity.

    Jost discusses our vital essence - or ’Jing’ - in Chinese medicine and its critical role in the foundation of life itself; from fertility, energy, and longevity, to its impact on our impulses and sex drive. Jost also talks about the 3 stages of spiritual practice (and their correlating dimensions), the 5 elements, the 12 meridians, and how this relates to the pyramids, DaVinci’s Vitriuvian Man, Chinese Medicine, gold, and Alexander Shulgin (the godfather of Ecstasy). Leon talks about working things out internally before expressing them externally, the dangers of asking focus groups for advice, and how the open-ended loop of mass manufacturing is a slippery slope into downcycling. He also talks about the emptiness of trying to obtain power by proxy instead of doing the hard work. 

    Jost and Leon wonder if our physical reality just a prototype, if the Spiritual Hierarchy is considering discontinuing this model, and if so, what comes next? They chat about Elvis, Stalin, and what happens when you’re surrounded by yes men, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, global unrest, and cryptocurrency. They also call bullsh*t on the ‘junk DNA’ theory and expose the lack of real power possessed by the ruling class. 

    Jost and Leon both share their experiences of the last few years and acknowledge all the reasons to be angry, but emphasise the need to ‘hang up the phone’ and move forward. They also discuss the importance of mourning the loss of the old world and allowing grief to take us to a new starting point; discovering our own power. If you have internal power you will always see a solution, you always have options, and you always know what to do. The people trying to manipulate us want us stupid, weak, and unhealthy, but their power is built on false foundations. It’s time to take the power back by taking charge of ourselves and becoming active participants in forging the future.

    For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

    For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

    • 1 hr 1 min

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