Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom C**k, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

  1. Bespoke Future

    15H AGO

    Bespoke Future

    This episode dismantles the myth of “one-size-fits-all retirement,” arguing that retirement isn’t a date, an age, or a lifestyle—it’s a personal transition that demands both an income plan and a purpose plan. Don and Tom explore the growing trend of “un-retiring,” why fear and economic anxiety are lousy motivators for going back to work, and how a lack of planning fuels unnecessary worry later in life. Listener questions cover smart uses of 529-to-Roth conversions, parking large sums of cash, Roth strategies for young investors, rebuilding emergency funds without sabotaging retirement, and why converting Vanguard mutual funds to ETFs in taxable accounts is often a no-brainer. The through-line is clear: stop predicting the future, stop reacting emotionally, and build flexible plans that let your money support the life you actually want. 0:04 Retirement isn’t a script, a date, or a finish line 0:56 The myth of “retire at 65 and stop living” 1:20 The rise of “un-retiring” and why Disney hires retirees 3:22 Fear-based reasons people go back to work 4:28 Why retirees often worry more, not less 5:10 Studies showing how many retirees expect to work again 6:38 Income plans vs. purpose plans in retirement 7:16 The Dalai Lama, retirement, and dark humor 8:16 Using leftover 529 money for a future Roth IRA 10:31 Anton Chekhov’s The Bet and money as a moral test 12:08 Parking $3.5M: T-bills vs. high-yield savings 14:30 Why holding massive cash piles is usually a mistake 16:21 Interest-rate predictions and the illusion of certainty 19:17 How (and where) people actually listen to podcasts 21:02 Mortgage rates under 6% and why context matters 23:15 Roth IRAs for young investors and compounding reality 25:12 VT vs. AVGE vs. AVGV for long-term simplicity 27:51 Disney’s $60B expansion and what it says about costs 31:07 Rebuilding emergency funds without derailing retirement 33:32 Converting Vanguard mutual funds to ETFs in taxable accounts 35:20 Why small tax efficiencies matter over decades Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    45 min
  2. Easier Usually Better

    1D AGO

    Easier Usually Better

    Tom C**k and Don McDonald kick off 2026 with a sharp, skeptical look at portfolio simplicity—what it really means, what it doesn’t, and why promises like “no sacrifice in returns” should always raise an eyebrow. Using a Morningstar article as a springboard, they dig into active vs. index funds, one-fund and target-date strategies, and the behavioral traps that complexity creates. Listener calls drive deeper discussions around Avantis funds (AVGE vs. AVGV), value tilts, international exposure, Fidelity’s zero-fee funds, and when simplicity actually beats sophistication. Along the way: holiday viruses, Jeopardy ETF fails, Tesla-as-a-value-stock arguments (sort of), and a reminder that knowing yourself as an investor matters more than chasing the “perfect” allocation. 0:04 Holiday hangover, fake presence, and welcoming 2026 1:27 Simplicity in investing and why complexity isn’t intelligence 1:44 Morningstar’s “simplify your portfolio” claim—skepticism engaged 3:01 Active funds vs. index funds (and Morningstar’s awkward contradiction) 3:56 One-fund vs. multi-fund portfolios and why rebalancing is hard 5:24 Target-date funds as delegation for real humans 7:32 Hodgepodge-itis vs. fewer funds, fewer mistakes 8:52 Listener call: Roth IRA for an 8-year-old and AVGE vs. AVGV 12:20 Value tilt, international exposure, and long time horizons 13:44 AVGE vs. AVGV performance—why short-term results don’t settle debates 16:57 VT compared to Avantis—diversification without tilts 17:32 Fidelity Zero funds—what’s free and what’s the catch 20:00 Jason from Sammamish: value, growth, Tesla, and confidence 23:36 SPY vs. SPYM and when cheap is just cheap 25:46 Listener call: escaping a Fidelity managed large-cap portfolio 29:58 What to say when an advisor tries to keep your money 31:24 Jeopardy contestants miss “ETF” (yes, really) 33:46 AVGE vs. VT—tilts, belief systems, and picking your poison Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    44 min
  3. Nobody Knows

    2D AGO

    Nobody Knows

    Predictions feel comforting—but they’re usually nonsense. In this episode, Don and Tom dismantle the illusion of foresight by revisiting last year’s loudest economic forecasts around tariffs, inflation, jobs, recessions, and markets. Drawing from a Wall Street Journal retrospective, they show how both political promises and expert predictions missed the mark, with reality landing squarely in the messy middle. The takeaway is classic Talking Real Money: nobody—not economists, not presidents, not pundits, and especially not you—has actionable insight into the future. That’s why successful investing isn’t about forecasts or hot takes, but about building a diversified portfolio, rebalancing when needed, and tuning out the noise. The episode wraps with listener questions on teen investing accounts and Roth conversion rules, plus a reminder that humility beats hubris every time markets get unpredictable. 0:04 The future is unpredictable—even when we pretend it isn’t 0:26 Why we crave predictions and mistake luck for skill 0:53 Being “right” once doesn’t mean anything 1:58 Tariffs, Trump, and the great forecasting divide 2:27 Inflation predictions that never showed up 3:53 Jobs, unemployment, and why both sides were wrong 5:49 Who actually paid for tariffs (hint: not who you think) 7:08 Recession fears vs. reality—and the AI wildcard 8:55 Why short-term predictions fail and macro trends survive 10:41 The truth usually lives between the extremes 11:31 Lao Tzu, Yogi Berra, and why nobody knows the future 13:20 The most dangerous “expert” investors trust: themselves 14:43 Listener question: investing for a 16-year-old 17:29 Roth IRA vs. UTMA/UGMA and simple fund choices 18:06 Listener question: Roth conversions and the five-year rule 20:54 Humor, offense, and why everyone needs to lighten up 21:14 RetireMeet 2026 details and special guest preview 23:14 Apella Wealth philosophy and free help reminder 24:39 The number one word of the year (still shocking) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    27 min
  4. Try Before You Buy?

    5D AGO

    Try Before You Buy?

    Investing isn’t a game, and treating it like one can quietly sabotage your future. This episode dismantles the idea of “trying out” investments or advisors the way Wall Street has trained people to do for decades. Don and Tom argue that real financial advice starts with planning, not products, and that a true fiduciary focuses on taxes, portfolio design, and long-term goals — not beating markets or selling what’s hot. Listener questions tackle portfolio overlap inside a 401(k), when simplicity beats customization, the reality behind so-called “Trump accounts” for children, and how to evaluate companies like Corbridge Financial in teacher retirement plans. The show wraps with a reality check on World Cup ticket pricing that somehow makes active management look affordable by comparison. 0:04 Why “trying out” investments makes no more sense than test-driving surgery 1:26 The danger of treating investing like a game 2:29 How Wall Street gamified investing for nearly a century 3:45 What good advisors don’t promise 4:10 Fiduciary planning versus transactional sales 5:14 Marketing narratives vs. real financial planning 6:55 Why big advisory firms spend fortunes on persuasion 7:48 Hot returns, sexy funds, and why chasing them fails 8:35 Investing to win vs. investing to reach a goal 9:56 Accepting market reality instead of competing with billionaires 11:27 Product versus planning — the core distinction 12:09 Listener question: fixing portfolio overlap inside a 401(k) 14:34 Why simpler portfolios usually work better 15:09 Using target-date funds to eliminate overlap and rebalancing headaches 16:19 What “Trump accounts” actually are — and what they aren’t 18:39 Comparing Trump accounts to 529 plans 21:38 Corbridge Financial: when it’s fine and when it’s a trap 23:01 Appreciating listeners everywhere (yes, even Portland) 24:40 World Cup ticket prices that defy financial gravity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    30 min
  5. Very Different

    JAN 7

    Very Different

    This episode opens with a reality check on streaming delays before diving into the growing divide between investing and gambling, highlighted by Charles Schwab’s refusal to promote crypto, options, and prediction markets while Robinhood leans fully into high-intensity trading. Don and Tom warn that flashy features and frequent trading usually lead to worse outcomes, not better ones. Listener questions cover whether employees can roll a 401(k) during a plan change (usually no), how to cope with bad retirement plans, and how to choose between a high-cost growth fund and a low-cost index option. The show also tackles whether mixing Avantis and Dimensional funds truly adds diversification, argues that over-engineering portfolios is counterproductive, and closes with a candid discussion about the decline of financial radio, the rise of podcasts, and why a strong financial plan matters more than recent market gains. 0:04 Recorded-not-live reality, streaming delays, and why nothing feels real anymore 1:56 Schwab draws a hard line between investing and gambling 2:56 Robinhood’s casino-style features and the problem with pandering 6:12 Why trading more usually means ending up with less 6:52 Listener question: Can you roll a 401(k) during a plan change while still employed? 9:23 Why “in-service” rollovers usually aren’t allowed before 59½ 11:53 What employees can do when stuck in a bad 401(k) plan 14:44 Fund choice question: Fidelity Growth vs. Vanguard 500 Index Trust 18:06 Why expenses, risk, and diversification matter more than past performance 19:21 Why podcasts are replacing traditional financial radio 22:06 How to listen to podcasts using Apple Podcasts and Spotify 27:22 Avantis vs. Dimensional: does doubling up add diversification? 31:52 Over-diversifying and the illusion of control 34:42 New-year reminder: returns don’t equal good planning 35:25 The importance of having an actual financial plan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    44 min
  6. Picking a Good One

    JAN 6

    Picking a Good One

    With Tom on vacation and an eerily convincing AI stand-in holding down the mic, Don kicks off 2026 by tackling one of the most persistent listener questions: how to actually find a true fiduciary—and how to eliminate salespeople fast. Using FINRA’s BrokerCheck as a simple filter, the show explains why the “B” matters, why dual-registered advisors are still a risk, and how complexity is often a red flag. From there, the conversation dives into the rise of RILAs (registered index-linked annuities), why their shiny back-tested returns don’t mean much, and how simpler balanced portfolios often do better with far less risk and confusion. Along the way, the hosts cover podcast reviews, investing in bourbon barrels (don’t), Roth IRAs for teenagers (do), and close with Tom’s five timeless investing rules for 2026: go global, simplify, define risk, rebalance, and understand your taxes. 0:04 New year, Tom on vacation, and the rise of AI Tom 0:22 AI voices, joke quality, and job security jokes 2:20 Welcome and the show’s core mission 2:46 How to actually find a real fiduciary 3:30 BrokerCheck explained and why the “B” is a deal-breaker 5:24 Firm searches and fast advisor elimination 6:38 Why dual registration still isn’t fiduciary 7:22 RILAs introduced and why “index-linked” is a warning sign 9:38 Hypothetical returns and misleading back-testing 11:19 Balanced index funds vs annuity complexity 13:00 Why RILAs solve no real investor problem 14:08 How to leave podcast reviews (and where) 15:22 Apple vs Spotify reviews and ratings reality 17:34 Ratings, trolls, and thin-skinned hosts 20:07 Tom’s five investing rules for 2026 20:41 Go global—actually global 21:56 Fewer accounts, less mess 22:49 Know your risk before the market teaches you 23:50 Rebalancing after strong stock years 24:38 Understanding taxes by account type 27:33 Bourbon barrel investing pitch—hard pass 29:13 Custody risk and private-investment danger 31:35 No sales guests, ever 33:54 Roth IRAs for working teens 34:35 RetireMeet 2026 announcement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    44 min
  7. Why Complicate It?

    JAN 5

    Why Complicate It?

    Wall Street is pitching “fixed-maturity ETFs” as the perfect solution for retirees who want certainty, income, and peace of mind—but are they actually solving a problem that already has simpler answers? In this episode, Don and Tom break down what bonds and CDs really do, why fixed-maturity funds are being pushed so hard right now, and how fees quietly eat away at the promised benefits. Along the way, they explain the real role of bonds in a portfolio, why chasing yield is a trap, and how diversification and simplicity still beat clever packaging. Listener questions tackle fiduciary responsibility in 401(k) plans, loaded mutual funds, and how much international exposure makes sense in retirement. 0:04 New year opener, time anxiety, and refusing to acknowledge large numbers 1:05 What a bond actually is—and what it guarantees (and doesn’t) 1:54 CDs vs. bonds: fixed maturity products that already work 2:37 Why Wall Street suddenly “needs” fixed-maturity ETFs 3:22 BulletShares, yields, and the quiet problem of fund expenses 4:45 Larry Swedroe’s blunt answer: skip the fund, buy the bonds 5:24 Yield fixation and how investors ignore cost and complexity 6:05 When fixed-maturity ETFs might make sense—and when they don’t 7:14 I-Bonds, TreasuryDirect, and Don’s practical reality check 7:48 A simple solution: total bond fund plus a CD ladder 8:28 Why fixed maturity doesn’t mean fixed safety 10:09 Expense ratios compared: broad bond funds vs. sliced products 10:35 The real purpose of bonds in a portfolio 12:04 Putting 2022’s bond losses in proper historical context 12:58 Eugene Fama on Wall Street “innovation” 13:20 Listener question: fiduciary responsibility in a 401(k) plan 16:30 Listener question: A-shares, B-shares, loads, and advisor honesty 19:14 Why high fund expenses hurt more than exit fees 20:52 Listener question: international exposure in retirement portfolios 22:18 Practical global diversification without precision theater 23:02 Why Don is flexible on allocations—but not on insurance sales 23:22 How to send in questions and closing banter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    27 min
4.5
out of 5
775 Ratings

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Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom C**k, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

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