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Land wholesale experts, Steven Jack Butala and Jill DeWit, share their personal land investment/real estate business achievements, answer questions, share valuable tips, all in the name of promoting listeners’ personal and professional real estate success. Steven and Jill have been buying and selling unwanted vacant land since the 90’s and have completed the purchase and sale of more than 15,000 properties. Their experience has earned them a solid reputation in the industry as well as assisted them in gaining the respect and friendship of many of the top national real estate investment and internet marketing experts. Through Land Academy, Steven and Jill mentor ambitious real estate aspirants on how to buy unwanted rural land and sell it for profit on the internet. Every week they buy and sell land alongside their members. They take you through all the parts of this process in great detail in their programs. Join Steven Butala and Jill DeWit on Land Academy Podcast, 5 days a week, and learn how to create your own real estate wealth. You are not alone in your real estate ambition. Land Academy shows you how to Buy unwanted rural land for next to nothing, sell it for a lot more money on the internet and collect the payments for years to come. All in the spirit of LandGeek, Mark Podolsky, Jack Bosch, Land for Pennies on the Dollar.

Land Academy Show Steven Butala & Jill DeWit

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    • 4.8 • 178 Ratings

Land wholesale experts, Steven Jack Butala and Jill DeWit, share their personal land investment/real estate business achievements, answer questions, share valuable tips, all in the name of promoting listeners’ personal and professional real estate success. Steven and Jill have been buying and selling unwanted vacant land since the 90’s and have completed the purchase and sale of more than 15,000 properties. Their experience has earned them a solid reputation in the industry as well as assisted them in gaining the respect and friendship of many of the top national real estate investment and internet marketing experts. Through Land Academy, Steven and Jill mentor ambitious real estate aspirants on how to buy unwanted rural land and sell it for profit on the internet. Every week they buy and sell land alongside their members. They take you through all the parts of this process in great detail in their programs. Join Steven Butala and Jill DeWit on Land Academy Podcast, 5 days a week, and learn how to create your own real estate wealth. You are not alone in your real estate ambition. Land Academy shows you how to Buy unwanted rural land for next to nothing, sell it for a lot more money on the internet and collect the payments for years to come. All in the spirit of LandGeek, Mark Podolsky, Jack Bosch, Land for Pennies on the Dollar.

    Jill Friday – 3 Relationships You Need in Your Land Business (LA 1612)

    Jill Friday – 3 Relationships You Need in Your Land Business (LA 1612)

    Jill Friday - 3 Relationships You Need in Your Land Business (LA 1612)

    Transcript:



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Steve and Jill here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Hello.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala.



    Jill DeWit:

    And I'm Jill DeWit broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Today is Jill Friday. And she's going to talk about the three relationships that you really should have, or that you need in your land business.



    Jill DeWit:

    They're not husbands, it's not children, it's not boss, it's not accountant.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community, it's free. And please don't forget to subscribe to the land academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.



    Jill DeWit:

    Ian wrote, hey everyone, I have a property owner I'm talking to who owns a piece of property that has a dilapidated trailer on it. The property is pretty far back from a highway, but there appears to be a lengthy dirt road that goes through several pieces of property. Looks like there are a few other homes back down this road. Does anyone have any recommendations for determining legal access to the property? The sellers don't know much about it as they inherited it. There's nothing in writing that they know of. They told me they use the road to get to the property, but like I said, the trailer needs to be torn down and they really go back there. Is this an implied easement situation? Any input is appreciated.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    It's a very good question and just like yesterday, it's a question that I directly got involved in on discord. All these things start with a plat map. A plat map is one of those... It's black and white. It's some type of a surveyor or way back in the day before even surveyors, there are people that would hand write maps based on the stuff that they found from the measurements that they took. And it's the most basic map you can get. We don't use them a lot anymore because of Google earth and things like that and data tree, but a plat map will have in when it was subdivided the legal roads. Nine times out of 10, way more than that actually probably. And they're identified by dotted lines, not straight lines. Straight lines are property lines, dotted lines are roads or easements if they're involved in other properties.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    So you'll start with that and you'll see it. If it goes along people's property lines and there are no properties between it, that's just a driveway and you won't see that on a plat map. Think about your own driveway or a driveway in a subdivision or even a parking lot in an apartment building. You won't see that in a plat map, you'll just see the property line and that's it and here's the dirt. And so this is going to take some digging into and it's worth it because I love these kinds of deals, by the way. If there's an old mobile home and it's way back somewhere off the road and it... You started to tell the story about the sales story here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Right?



    Steven Jack Butala:

    So I'd definitely get to the end of it. In a rare case if they find out, there's no easement at all. It sounds like the property is being used that way, or it has been used that way. So if you just talk to the neighbors and say, "Hey, do you mind if we make this official? I'm going to call my lawyer and we'll just redraft this stuff. The guys can sign some stuff so I can use it. That'd be great."



    Jill DeWit:

    Right?



    Steven Jack Butala:

    That happens a lot with us because she's on the phone doing it and she's talking nice to these neighbors. Flies with honey kind of thing.

    • 10 min
    Jack Thursday – We Now Control Most Aspects of Our Own Lives (LA 1611)

    Jack Thursday – We Now Control Most Aspects of Our Own Lives (LA 1611)

    Jack Thursday - We Now Control Most Aspects of Our Own Lives (LA 1611)

    Transcript:



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Steve and Jill here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Hey.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala.



    Jill DeWit:

    And I'm Jill Dewitt. And we are broadcasting from the Valley of The Sun.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Today is Jack Thursday, and I'm going to talk about how we now control and I mean, all of us, all, almost all aspects of our own lives. And I'll tell what, when we were kids, Jill and I wasn't like that at all.



    Jill DeWit:

    Yeah. I'm excited to talk about this.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It's free. And please don't forget to subscribe on the land academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.



    Jill DeWit:

    Jessica wrote, "What points of failure do you think new land investors should be looking out for? As a one person show, I don't want to use my limited energy to create redundancy for the sake of redundancy, but there's bound to be ways we can mitigate the typical points of failure experienced by those at this stage of our careers."



    Steven Jack Butala:

    So Jessica and I in Discord, went back and forth on this. And then a lot of people came back in. I'm not in there every day or constantly or anything, but this is a topic that... A single point of failure is a topic that really sings to me because I was on the Brent end of that concept between around 2009 and 2011.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Really until Jill and I had joined forces to get back in it, really get land investing back on track, or there was a recession then. And a lot of it was because of the single point of failure. We had a single point of failure sales channel. All we were doing was buying some property and selling them on eBay. It was great. I made millions and tens of millions of dollars doing it actually.



    Jill DeWit:

    It was great until it wasn't.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Yep. Until it turned off. And I looked around and said, "Well, it's off like the electricity. And what can I do about it? Pretty much nothing." And so I never want that to happen again. So Jessica and I were going back and forth on Discord. I said, you can't have a single point of failure in your sales channel. This came up because Facebook and Instagram were down for two days this week.



    Jill DeWit:

    Oh yeah, that's true.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    That's why she was asking this.



    Jill DeWit:

    Oh.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    She's, "I don't want to get caught up in this."



    Jill DeWit:

    Whatif Facebook marketplace is the only place I seem to sell property?



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Yeah. That's where she [crosstalk 00:02:21].



    Jill DeWit:

    Well, then don't let that happen.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Really what she asked.



    Jill DeWit:

    Yeah.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Here's another place that I've been burned on a single point of failure, recently, very, very recently. When you rely too heavily on a single important employee, it's going to bite you at some point. Now, Jill and I cross-train everybody. We don't go in there and say, "Hey, we're cross-training you." What ends up happening is somebody makes some time off, another person steps in. They learn how to run some stuff or whatever division it is. They work at 020 for a couple of weeks, they go over to data, the neighbor scoop for a week or whatever. So it ends up being a inadvertent cross-training.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Everybody's in it together kind of thing.

    • 10 min
    Housing Market is Back and so is House Academy (HA XYZ)

    Housing Market is Back and so is House Academy (HA XYZ)

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    Housing Market is Back and so is House Academy (HA XYZ)

    Transcript:

    Steven Jack Butala:Steve and Jill here.

    Jill DeWit:Hello.

    Steven Jack Butala:Welcome to the Land Academy Show. Entertaining land investment talk. Well, it's really the House Academy Show today.

    Jill DeWit:Yeah.

    Steven Jack Butala:I'm Steven Jack Butala.

    Jill DeWit:Hi, I'm Jill DeWit broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun.

    Steven Jack Butala:Today, Jill and I talk about how the housing market is back or is coming back. And then, so is House Academy. In the background for years and years and years before I met Jill, she was buying and selling houses and so was I. We met and we really focused on land because that's always been my primary focus and I think I kind of introduced it to her, but she always knew about buying, selling houses and we never stopped until COVID. We stopped because I thought initially it was going to crash like it did in 2010, the exact opposite happened to every economists and the planets dismay or amazement. Including us. Some of these markets got so hot, we just decided, you know what? We're not going to-

    Jill DeWit:Plan up.

    Steven Jack Butala:We're no... I don't want to swim with sharks. I want to swim with goldfish and have not a lot of competition. So we've been watching patiently. If you're in the group, you know we talk about this on that Thursday call all the time, in the Land Academy group. And it's statistics now, and I'll talk about this in a minute, are showing serious signs of, yep, let's get back in here and do it.

    Jill DeWit:Agreed, I'm excited.

    Steven Jack Butala:Before we get into it. Let's take a question meets you posted on the one by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community it's free. And don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.

    Jill DeWit:I think we're going to have a house channel on the Land Academy Channel. I don't know, look around. We're going to come up with some more good house stuff for you. I'm just tying back to how-

    Steven Jack Butala:On the Land Academy YouTube Channel.

    Jill DeWit:Yeah.

    Steven Jack Butala:We will have a House Academy playlist very, very soon. If not, by the time that you listened to this. In the past, forget about the past. We had its own separate House Academy Channel. So we're moving all that content over.

    Jill DeWit:It's going to be cool.

    Steven Jack Butala:So it's going to roll it all up into one kind of thing.

    Jill DeWit:Totally.

    Jill DeWit:Charlie wrote, "What tricks do you have to help buyers get a survey completed in a timely manner? I'm going on three weeks since we opened escrow. Title could have closed last week and we're still waiting on the survey with no estimated date of completion. At this point, I'm willing to do anything before my buyer decides to walk." I hate the situation. It's happening. You're not alone. Charlie. It's frustrating. There's a lot of things that are behind, your Amazon deliveries behind not kidding. I mean, I've like not so much Amazon, but they've moved things around a little bit, but I'll tell you FedEx and UPS and other services are behind. My bigger point is, I think people are having a hard time finding workers and there's a transportation issue and just people to show up. So, that could be going on. Maybe this poor guy went out and did his stuff and it's waiting on the office staff to finally put the paperwork together to get you his ...

    • 17 min
    Beginners Guide to Doing Land Deals (LA 1610)

    Beginners Guide to Doing Land Deals (LA 1610)

    Beginners Guide to Doing Land Deals (LA 1610)

    Transcript:



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Steve and Jill here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Howdy.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Stephen Jack Butala.



    Jill DeWit:

    And I'm Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the Valley of the Sun.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Today, Jill and I, we're going to talk about a beginner's guide to doing land deals.



    Jill DeWit:

    I broke it down in a couple of steps from zero to 30, I should say.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Jill and I often have different takes on what these shows should be about. And today is no exception.



    Jill DeWit:

    Exactly. We often have different takes on everything from parenting to where we're going to dinner tonight.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    We do not have different takes on the following: getting rich together.



    Jill DeWit:

    Yes.Getting in An RV.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    When that should happen.



    Jill DeWit:

    True.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    How to run our staff, for the most part.



    Jill DeWit:

    Right. Leaving town.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    I think we're almost on, well, we're not on the same page about parenting, right? But I don't think you should be. I think you need two of them going at it.



    Jill DeWit:

    We're on the same page about vehicles in the garage and toys. We're pretty good about that because no one will say no. It's pretty much a,"Yeah, we should get one of those."



    Steven Jack Butala:

    We're on the same page about how much real estate we should own and not own and where.



    Jill DeWit:

    That's true.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    That's a pretty big deal.



    Jill DeWit:

    I can agree with that.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on thelandinvestors.com online community. It's free. And don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel, and comment on the shows you like.



    Jill DeWit:

    Victor wrote: What does it mean when a property's co-owned with an "or" instead of an "and"? And I'm putting in quotes here, "Jane Smith and John Smith," instead of, "Jane Smith or John Smith." Both are deceased and the daughter wants to sell.



    Jill DeWit:

    It means absolutely nothing.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    This is incorrect. And it's a great question. Whoever did this vesting deed before you, or before them, didn't do it right. Here's how you do it. Jane Smith and John Smith own this property as joint tenants with rights of survivorship. One of them dies, the other one owns it all, at the moment that that person passes, without any paperwork. It's a beautiful thing, actually. But eventually, John's going to die too. And that's what goes on here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Yeah. Any deed you come up with, you might even find still some tenants in common. Whatever it is "or" doesn't mean anything "Or" doesn't count. What counts are the words after it.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Yes, well said.



    Jill DeWit:

    Thank you.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    What also accounts is that they're both dead. And so to answer that, depending on the state, that's really easy to undo, or really hard. Arizona's very hard. California's very easy. So, [crosstalk 00:02:52]. And it always changes, or else I would directly answer it.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    California requires an affidavit of death, and Arizona requires a whole new... In a lot of cases it's just not worth it, a new estate settlement. Or it means nothing. That's the takeaway from there.



    Jill DeWit:

    That's it.

    • 11 min
    Working From Home on Your Land Business (LA 1609)

    Working From Home on Your Land Business (LA 1609)

    Working From Home on Your Land Business (LA 1609)

    Transcript:



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Steve and Jill here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Hello.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Welcome to the Land Academy show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala .



    Jill DeWit:

    And I'm Jill DeWit, broadcasting from the valley of the sun.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Today, Jill and I talk about working from home on your land business.



    Jill DeWit:

    Pretty hot topic.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    It is. I saw that actually, I saw it, it ranked high... It falls under something I thought we all would've known and how this works but I get it though.



    Jill DeWit:

    Do you know what's so funny? It used to be, working from home on X, right? Meaning, you would have a second job, whatever gig, and now everybody's working from home. So, it's like, what do you happen to be working from home on? Does that make sense? Are you're working from home? No kidding. Is it your day job? You know what I mean? I'm just curious, so is the planet.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    It wasn't that long ago when someone said, she's working from home today?



    Jill DeWit:

    Right.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    And everybody would say, oh, she's getting nothing done and took the day off.



    Jill DeWit:

    Totally.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    It's just not the case at all- [crosstalk 00:00:59]



    Jill DeWit:

    She's doing laundry and she's watching movies- [crosstalk 00:01:01].



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Mm-hmm (affirmative).



    Jill DeWit:

    And everything. Now, it has a whole new different meaning now, it's true.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com, online community is free. And don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.



    Jill DeWit:

    I've got to add one little thing here too, by the way, home schooling has a whole new meaning now too.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    It's going to be interesting how this episode goes.



    Jill DeWit:

    Yeah. I know.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Two cynical people talk about working from home.



    Jill DeWit:

    I know. Okay. All right. Back to the topic. Jeff wrote, I've been an instructor since 2008.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Flight instructor.



    Jill DeWit:

    Okay. I thought of making flying an expense and probably would have been viable in the years before drones existed. I think you could do as an expense but be very costly compared to the low cost of getting the same photos from a drone. If you could expense the travel but it would be more expensive than the airlines. I think you could expense the travel but it'd be more expensive than the airlines, got it. So, Kevin, our moderator wrote, you can make anything an expense.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Yep.



    Jill DeWit:

    Get the right CPA. That's true. When he interviewed my CPA he asked an important question, how far do you want me to push the tax laws? I tell him I'm going to push it right up to the limit of the law.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    Me too.



    Jill DeWit:

    I don't care if I'm audited, as long as we document everything. He said, no problem, I know what to do. I think that flying over land that you have an interest in, you can define what an interest means, will be deductible. You will probably get audited but make sure it's documented and handled correctly on the tax returns. I have done this with a trip in the car to another state, I drove by some parcels while I was the and noted the APNs. Totally, totally on the same page.



    Steven Jack Butala:

    So,

    • 21 min
    Jill Friday – I’m Going to Have a Good Day Damn It (LA 1608)

    Jill Friday – I’m Going to Have a Good Day Damn It (LA 1608)

    Jill Friday - I'm Going to Have a Good Day Damn It (LA 1608)

    Transcript:



    Steven Butala:

    Steve and Jill here.



    Jill DeWit:

    Happy Friday.



    Steven Butala:

    Welcome to the Land Academy Show entertaining land, investment talk. I'm Steven Jack.



    Jill DeWit:

    And I'm Jill Dewitt broadcasting from the valley of the sun.



    Steven Butala:

    Today is Jill Friday. And she's going to do a show called I'm going to have a good day damn it.



    Jill DeWit:

    So this, I started mentioning it yesterday. This is when we sat down. This topic came up as we sat down and in the morning. And we're thinking about a couple of days ago, what our topics are going to be for this week. And Steven very lovingly said, well, how's your day going to which I said, it's going to be a great day because I'm going to make it a great day. That was the whole point. So the title morphed into I'm going to have a good day damn it. So, because there's a lot in your control and that's what we're going to talk about.



    Steven Butala:

    Before we get into it. Let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com, online community it's free. And don't forget to subscribe on the Land Academy, YouTube channel and comment on the shows you like.



    Jill DeWit:

    Shannon wrote as a newbie, I'm getting a little overwhelmed by the amount of response we are receiving. This method works. If you work it, not sure if it's because tax time is coming or what, but as a newbie, it feels we have dove into the deep end. LOL. I don't know who else says the mail is dead. It's alive and well, and people are opening up their letters. The hate calls are comical are also LOL what's the... Yeah go ahead.



    Steven Butala:

    All right. So here's the thing. This happened to me the first time I sent mail out. So I didn't know what I was doing. This is a lot of years ago, and this is long after I had a very successful tax deed tax auction business. I just tried to just send out a [mailer 00:02:00] Just to see what was going to happen. I sent a mailer out to very specific number of properties in a specific county, Mojave county, Arizona for a straight $500. Just trying to get to see if people didn't want the property anymore.



    Steven Butala:

    We got a massive response, as you can imagine. No one's ever... There's tens of probably 45,000 properties in that county. No one ever received a letter or an offer ever. And so we had a massive response and I screwed up everything, everything. If I could go back and do that, now we would probably do a thousand deals. But the whole time I did it with a smile on my face because I knew now it's possible. I knew, all right, on the next mail we'll solve this. And this is without Jill. This is with somebody like me answering the phone, which is not the best choice or answering the phone at all.



    Jill DeWit:

    Well, you did what you had to do with what you have to work with. That was it.



    Steven Butala:

    This person, what I love about this and why I put this in here, Shannon doesn't care what she's not saying, "Well, they're not doing this. And the salary's not doing this. And everyone hates. There's all this hate and everywhere. I can't believe. I never knew that these words existed." Let alone, has anyone ever said that. She's not saying any of that, what's she saying is, "Oh my God, can you imagine what's going to happen after I land three of these?" That's all she's focusing on Shannon you're going to be amazing at this. I'm sure of it. It requires that attitude.



    Jill DeWit:

    It's perfect for today.



    Steven Butala:

    Today's Jill Friday. I'm going to have a good day damn it. This is the meat of the show.



    Jill DeWit:

    So I was thinking about I've talked to people that are new to land investing,

    • 12 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
178 Ratings

178 Ratings

Shieldmaker ,

Excellent content

Steve and Jill do not waste any words or time. They furnish excellent REI content and share valuable experience commercial-free.

Tb773 ,

Do not fall for their gimmicks

Do not for these guys gimmicks. Don’t get locked into a auto renew contract with them!

captainfuzz ,

Fair to OK

I’ve listened to a good number of these, and MAYBE I get one useful nugget of information per show, usually nothing. This podcast feels like being a fly on the wall of the hosts’ kitchen during morning coffee talk. It’s mainly chatter, not serious business talk, and it is the same recycled humor show after show- he’s the nerdy data guy, she’s the sweet talking sales and service person. There is little to no original research or substance on whatever the podcast topic may be. Sometimes the show is almost over before they even bring the topic up. This must be advertising for their educational program, Land Academy, because in my opinion this podcast offers very little except the promise of knowledge if you join their program. One caveat- I do think the hosts are very successful in the business that they run, and they could make this podcast much more than it is if only they changed the format. Clearly they are accomplished land investors and businesspeople, I just wish in this show, in and of itself, they shared more of the detailed practical knowledge that got them there.

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