27 episodes

The Start Right HERE podcast was created because our world could use some therapy. From two bestselling authors and psychotherapists with more than 90 years of combined experience. Still standing, writing, and talking (And making sense the vast majority of the time).

Start HERE emphasizes that mental and emotional well-being requires certain essential understandings and practices. The hosts demonstrate clearly how the same principles that they utilize in individual and relationship therapy also apply to the larger contexts of family, organizations, community and even government.

The hosts are at times as much philosophical as psychological but never stray from their commitment to being practical. There will be “take-aways” from every episode – something to think about in a different way - and/or something new to try to improve your relationship with yourself, your friends, your family, and the bigger world surrounding us all.

Start Right Here: Conversations About What Matters Most Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge

    • Mental Health
    • 4.6 • 25 Ratings

The Start Right HERE podcast was created because our world could use some therapy. From two bestselling authors and psychotherapists with more than 90 years of combined experience. Still standing, writing, and talking (And making sense the vast majority of the time).

Start HERE emphasizes that mental and emotional well-being requires certain essential understandings and practices. The hosts demonstrate clearly how the same principles that they utilize in individual and relationship therapy also apply to the larger contexts of family, organizations, community and even government.

The hosts are at times as much philosophical as psychological but never stray from their commitment to being practical. There will be “take-aways” from every episode – something to think about in a different way - and/or something new to try to improve your relationship with yourself, your friends, your family, and the bigger world surrounding us all.

    Episode Twenty-Seven: What Can The US Capitol Attack Teach Us About Ourselves? (Part Two)

    Episode Twenty-Seven: What Can The US Capitol Attack Teach Us About Ourselves? (Part Two)

    Therapist and author Dr. John Amodeo joins us in conversation about the attack on the Capitol and how we might be able to contribute to healing. Much of the episode is framed by an excerpt from John’s new article in Psychology Today: “Psychological Causes of the Attack on Our Capitol.”
    Highlights include how communication can become less contentious if we can work toward a paradigm shift, away from all/none and either/or thinking toward communication that is characterized by “conversations to convey rather than conversations to convince.” The American Psychological Association has published "Beyond Your Bubble", to provide guidance for us to improve how we communicate politically.
    We will continue exploring these themes in future episodes.
    Read John’s article “Psychological Causes of the Attack on Our Capitol” here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/intimacy-path-toward-spirituality/202101/psychological-causes-the-attack-our-capitol
    Visit John’s website http://johnamodeo.com/ for more information on John.

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Episode Twenty-Six: What Can The US Capitol Attack Teach Us About Ourselves? (Part One)

    Episode Twenty-Six: What Can The US Capitol Attack Teach Us About Ourselves? (Part One)

    The conversation begins this week with Thom discussing his experience with the publication of his book, Embracing Fear - shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 - and drawing comparisons to the feelings surrounding this week's attack on the Capitol in Washington, DC.
    Allen, Thom and Patrick (Podcast Producer) have a multi-faceted and admittedly chaotic conversation congruent with the emotional aftermath of the very frightening events we have all just witnessed. Included in this conversation are elements of how our understanding of human psychology and mental health can help us make some sense of things, how there is an important difference between healthy and neurotic fear and that when we tune into healthy fear, we can find direction for how best to respond, individually, as a community and hopefully as a nation. There is an emphasis throughout the sometimes pin-ball conversation on focusing on how we, as individuals, can work to remain grounded in times of crisis. As with previous podcasts, we’ve decided to continue exploring this topic next week.

    • 52 min
    Episode Twenty-Five: What Have We Learned in 2020, and How Do We Move Forward in 2021? (with Mary Gordon)

    Episode Twenty-Five: What Have We Learned in 2020, and How Do We Move Forward in 2021? (with Mary Gordon)

    Mary Gordon MA, LAADC, ICAADC shares her experiences as Director of The Betty Ford Center family program (among other things) in this discussion with Allen and Thom in the first week of 2021. Mary shares her thoughts on the importance of communication across America’s political divide to heal some of the damage caused by our extreme polarization. Mary describes some of the group experiences with retreats for women she and her colleague, Peggy McGillicuddy (also Mary’s daughter) facilitate as examples of discovering the power of self-respect and how some of these very same experiences might hold keys for a broader, national healing. As 2021 begins, we join with our listeners in grieving what has been lost in 2020 while also expressing gratitude for what has been created.
    Learn more about Mary Gordon at InnerDirectionRecovery.com
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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Special Episode: How To Avoid Messing Up The Holidays!

    Special Episode: How To Avoid Messing Up The Holidays!

    In the spirit of Allen’s 12-counts (12 Stupid Things That Mess Up Recovery, 12 Smart Things To Do When the Booze & Drugs are Gone, 12 Hidden Rewards to Making Amends, etc.) and in the spirit of this pandemic-fraught holiday season, Allen presents his list of 12 stupid things to mess up the holidays along with helpful comments from Thom. As with most of their collaborations, even in the fun, there are some more enlightened moments. Thom wraps the episode with his Help for the Holidays, (Don’t Run from Positive Guilt and The Rules of Self-Care Apply to the Holidays Too). 
    NEXT WEEK: Allen & Thom are joined by their friend and colleague, Mary Gordon, to offer their version of 2020: Year In Review.
    You can download Thom’s "Help for the Holidays" here: https://3f48999b-b083-4400-97b5-96c49b21a0e7.filesusr.com/ugd/e71801_c8f8b44df1814cddbbe64767c7fe296e.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1L3O41V5dnd75c_X0MohLOg5tY4vovikI14IkEosZ4JbBipsAieElsFfo
    Allen’s 12 Stupid Things that Mess Up the Holidays (and the Corresponding “Cures”)
    1)  Take this holiday as an opportunity to point out the character defects of your family members, since they will give you ample opportunities to do so.
    Cure: Keep quiet about their shortcomings, especially when you know you are right.
    2)  Expecting this year to be different than any other.
    Cure: Accept that nothing will be different, if you haven’t surrendered your unenforceable rules.
    3)  Lose yourself in making everyone else happy.
    Cure: Make yourself as important as others, not more and not less.
    4)  Swallow whole and uncritically someone else’s notion of what this time of year is supposed to mean.
    Cure: Personalize your concept of the holidays.
    5)  Expect others to take better care of you than you do yourself.
    Cure: Accept personal responsibility for your happiness, comfort, security, safety and serenity.
    6)  Accept gifts or help that are not given with an open hand.
    Cure: Only accept those gifts that are offered freely - with an open hand. Ask to be seen and recognized if your partner doesn’t know you. Take responsibility to create the kind of relationship you want.
    7)  Deny or resist feelings from your past or current situations that surface such as resentments, grief or disappointments.
    Cure: Embrace whatever emotions or memories surface. View this as an opportunity to complete unfinished business.
    8)  Keep yourself in a state of perpetual motion.
    Cure: Hold still and experience your feelings.
    9)  Expect your family to be different than they are, hoping that things will be different because of this magical time of year.
    Cure: This is a false hope. Your response needs to be “of course” this is the way they are, and things are - I can learn from all of these experiences.
    10)       Believing that family problems indicate that something is wrong.
    Cure: Problems are a natural occurrence in families and indicate that something is right, not wrong.
    11)       Give “Thank you for nothing darling gifts” and expect gratitude or graciously accept “Thank you for nothing darling gifts.”
    Cure: See the peop

    • 49 min
    Episode Twenty-Three: What Can Robyn Goldberg Teach Us About ’The Eating Disorder Trap’?

    Episode Twenty-Three: What Can Robyn Goldberg Teach Us About ’The Eating Disorder Trap’?

    Robyn Goldberg, CEDRD-S has been working as a nutritionist in a variety of settings for 23 years. She specializes in medical conditions, disordered eating, eating disorders, people in recovery, pre-pregnancy nutrition and Health at Every Size. This episode is clearly an introduction of Robyn to Start Right HERE, as it becomes apparent that Allen, Thom and Robyn have much to talk about. In this episode, you will learn some about her basic philosophy of practice, about her new book, The Eating Disorder Trap and about her thoughts on building the best treatment team for each individual’s care. Look for Robyn to return in future episodes.
    Learn more about Robyn at her website:
    https://askaboutfood.com/
    And find her on Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/robyngoldbergrdn
    Also check out Austin Baechle, the illustrator for her book “The Eating Disorder Trap” on IG:
    https://www.instagram.com/agrumpyguy/
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    • 54 min
    Episode Twenty-Two: What Can Dr. Ericha Scott Teach Us About The Healing Power Of Creativity?

    Episode Twenty-Two: What Can Dr. Ericha Scott Teach Us About The Healing Power Of Creativity?

    Ericha Scott, Ph.D. is Allen’s and Thom’s guest for this episode. Dr. Scott is a Fellow for the International Society of Study of Trauma & Dissociation, a board certified registered art therapist, a registered expressive arts therapy, internationally certified as an advance alcohol and drug counselor and licensed in three states as a psychotherapist. All that and she is a wonderful addition to the Start Right HERE conversation. Dr. Scott offers a fascinating description of Sand Tray Therapy plus many others varieties of expressive arts therapies, along with some very powerful case examples from her own practice. She is a proponent, as are Allen and Thom, of practitioners in the people-helping professions being responsible to do their own person work in order to be authentically present with clients. The hosts and Dr. Scott discover other practice philosophies and methodologies that they have in common. If you have even a passing interest in the use of creative arts in therapy, you will find many good leads in this episode.
    Dr. Scott can be contacted via phone at (310) 880-9761. Her website and social media links are as follows:









    www.artspeaksoutloud.org

    www.linkedin.com/in/ehitchcockscottwww.facebook.com/ErichaScottPhDwww.facebook.com/erichascottwww.twitter.com/ErichaScott
    www.google.com/+ErichaScottPhDwww.youtube.com/c/ErichaScottPhD










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    Coming Soon: Robyn Goldberg, RDN, CEDRD-S to talk about her new book, The Eati

    • 1 hr 12 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
25 Ratings

25 Ratings

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Timely Truth to help Right Now

Two talented professionals bring clear, practical advice for coping in today’s world. Two different approaches cover broad interpersonal issues with solid information & a dose of humor. Great place to Start Right Now!

CarolCarter ,

These podcasts are life changing!

Thom Rutledge, psychotherapist and author, and Dr. Allen Berger, clinical psychologist and author, have partnered in this series of conversations between friends and colleagues to cover a wide variety of topics of interest around personal growth and healing. Just as I have enjoyed their books, I have yet to listen to one of their podcasts where I didn’t come away with some new understanding that was helpful in my life. These friends have an easy and fun rapport while being vulnerable at times about their own stories and discussing things they have learned along their combined 90 years in practice. I highly recommend this series of podcasts. To date they have recorded 14, and I have listened to each one multiple times. What a gift of love these gentlemen offer the world in their sharing. Pass the gift on to yourself. I promise you won’t regret the investment of some time. I wish you the best in your journey.

LeahDancer ,

Incredibly Helpful!!!

Thom and Allen have the most amazing chemistry. Not only are they both extremely wise, they are harmonious in every topic they discuss. The respect they have for each other not only as therapists but as people leaves the message they are conveying crisp and clear. I love listening to how they build on each other’s thoughts. Instead of listening to two experts argue their opinion, we hear two experts relate, confirm, agree, and offer different perspectives on the same topic to ensure that we as the listener take away all there is to take. Their incredible sense of humor and willingness to laugh at themselves helps me lighten up. This is the perfect duo.

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