38 episodes

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.



Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.



Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.



Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.



Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).

    Mi in Puerto Rico

    Mi in Puerto Rico

    Episode 37 – MI in Puerto Rico

    Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcome Gabrielle Ruiz Tudó to the program. Gabrielle is a Puerto Rican, currently living in Puerto Rico. She is a Program Evaluator with a Master’s Degree in Psychology. For more than 10 years her research and community-based experience has involved counseling, training, supervision, and coordination of programs mostly aimed towards disease and substance use prevention, and most recently towards sexual violence prevention. Gabrielle first received MI training in 2006, and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) in 2012. Since then she has facilitated and co-facilitated training in Spanish and in English. She has been part of the Health Education and Training Institute (HETI) coding and coaching team since 2013, helping professionals become more proficient in their MI skills, both in Spanish and English. From her beginnings in MI, she has been involved in several efforts to make MI more accessible to Spanish speakers by creating and translating tools in Spanish and participating in a community of Spanish speaking MINTies.

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    2:36 – Gabrielle’s introduction and MI background

    6:20 – Helping clients to find their own tools and own their process

    12:30 – MI in Puerto Rico

    16:30 – Important cultural elements of Puerto Rico

    24:10 – Adapting MI for use in Spanish

    34:30 – Learning the micro-skills and macro-skills of MI

    43:55 – Quarantine with family and food

    48:36 – End of recording

    Links and contact information:

    -Email: gtudo96@gmail.com

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



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    * Sebastian Kaplan 



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    • 48 min
    The Psycholinguistics of MI

    The Psycholinguistics of MI

    Glenn and Sebastian were excited about having Paul Amrhein on the podcast given his historical importance to the development of MI. Paul is presently on the faculties of Montclair State University (Professor, Psychology) in New Jersey and Columbia University (Adjunct Associate Professor, Psychiatry) in New York. An experimental psycholinguist by training, he earned his PhD in psychology at the University of Wisconsin—Madison. In 1995, as a faculty colleague at the University of New Mexico, Paul began work with Bill Miller on an exploration of the nature and role of client language evoked during MI as a predictor of substance use outcomes. Based on his dissertation work, Paul devised a process model explaining how the valence (sustain or change) and strength (weak or strong) of client commitment expressions, supported by underlying preparatory language, lead to behavioral outcomes. Since then, he has been investigating how factors of therapist training in MI and client learning ability interact to promote or impede change talk and its relationship to subsequent behavior.

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    2:05 – Paul’s introduction and MI background

    5:25 – The original DARRN-C coding system

    9:20 – Category, valence, and strength of change language

    21:00 – Double-sided reflections

    23:25 – The reflection to question ratio (R:Q)

    31:30 – Psycholinguistics beyond substance use conversations: “Talk is talk”

    37:00 – Change talk is a construction between the client and the practitioner

    44:45 – Connecting what the client says and what the client does

    47:10 – How experience affects learning MI

    50:25 – Re-entering normalcy, with masks

    54:26 – End of recording

    Links and contact information:



    * Email: pa2146@columbia.edu

    * 2003 paper citation:



    * Amrhein, P.C., Miller, W.M., Yahne, C.E., Palmer, M., & Fulcher, L. (2003). Client commitment language during motivational interviewing predicts drug use outcomes. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 71, 862-878. DOI: 1037/0022-006X.71.5.862 







    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us









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    • 54 min
    Experiential Motivational Interviewing

    Experiential Motivational Interviewing

    In Episode 35 ‘Experiential Motivational Interviewing’ we talk with Matt McKenzie who is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Alabama, USA, member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and a certified experiential specialist.  Matt received his Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Alabama – Birmingham in 2016 and he is currently working on his Doctoral of Philosophy at the University of Holy Cross in New Orleans, LA.  Professionally, he has applied experiential learning methods with motivational interviewing in substance abuse treatment with adjudicated adolescents, emerging adults and adults.  Matt has also seen positive outcomes of experiential motivational interviewing as a corporate educator and professional consultant when delivering teaching techniques.  He has provided training opportunities to health and wellness coaches, military personnel and mental health practitioners.  Matt recently co-authored, Experiential Motivational Interviewing:  An Action-Oriented Way of Being, with Marc Pimsler. 

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    2:30 – Matt’s introduction and early MI story

    8:45 – Experiential practices: “We don’t laugh with our enemies”

    15:40 – Experiential practices as a precursor to MI

    20:15 – The “carpet tiles” exercise

    28:00 – “Life’s blueprint” exercise: MI spirit through art, metaphor, and the core skills

    31:30 – Healing as a creative act

    36:15 – Resistance as a fear of knowing

    51:40 – Meeting vulnerability with kindness

    53:20 – Matt’s work on compassion fatigue in helpers

    1:01:02 – End of recording

    Links and contact information:



    * Email: mckenzie@mckenziestrategies.com

    * Twitter: @McKenzieMINTie

    * Website: mckenziestrategies.com

    * Book details: https://he.kendallhunt.com/product/experiential-motivational-interviewing-action-oriented-way-being 



    For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Experiential Motivational Interviewing

    Experiential Motivational Interviewing

    Episode 35 – Experiential Motivational Interviewing

    Matt McKenzie is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Alabama, USA, member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and a certified experiential specialist.  Matt received his Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from the University of Alabama – Birmingham in 2016 and he is currently working on his Doctoral of Philosophy at the University of Holy Cross in New Orleans, LA.  Professionally, he has applied experiential learning methods with motivational interviewing in substance abuse treatment with adjudicated adolescents, emerging adults and adults.  Matt has also seen positive outcomes of experiential motivational interviewing as a corporate educator and professional consultant when delivering teaching techniques.  He has provided training opportunities to health and wellness coaches, military personnel and mental health practitioners.  Matt recently co-authored, Experiential Motivational Interviewing:  An Action-Oriented Way of Being, with Marc Pimsler. 

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    2:30 – Matt’s introduction and early MI story

    8:45 – Experiential practices: “We don’t laugh with our enemies”

    15:40 – Experiential practices as a precursor to MI

    20:15 – The “carpet tiles” exercise

    28:00 – “Life’s blueprint” exercise: MI spirit through art, metaphor, and the core skills

    31:30 – Healing as a creative act

    36:15 – Resistance as a fear of knowing

    51:40 – Meeting vulnerability with kindness

    53:20 – Matt’s work on compassion fatigue in helpers

    1:01:02 – End of recording

    Links and contact information:



    * Email: mckenzie@mckenziestrategies.com

    * Twitter: @McKenzieMINTie

    * Website: mckenziestrategies.com

    * Book details: https://he.kendallhunt.com/product/experiential-motivational-interviewing-action-oriented-way-being 



    For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us









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    • 1 hr 1 min
    MI from an Evolutionary Perspective

    MI from an Evolutionary Perspective

    Ep. 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective

    Dr Abilio (Bill) de Almeida Neto joined Glenn and Sebastian for this unique conversation about possible underlying evolutionary mechanisms of MI. Bill is a registered psychologist in Australia. He holds a Bachelor of Science (Psychology) with Honours from the University of New South Wales and a PhD in psychology from the University of Sydney in the area of behaviour modification for which he was awarded a university medal. Professionally, he has applied behaviour modification techniques to a wide range of areas, including alcohol and other drugs, smoking cessation, correctional rehabilitation, quality use of medicines, and work health and safety. His primary scientific interest is in mechanisms of behaviour change that account for psychotherapeutic effects. He has been guest speaker at a number of international conferences and has published extensively in scientific journals.

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    4:00 – Bill’s introduction: “A long MI journey”

    9:50 – Seeking a theory of MI to understand underlying mechanisms

    20:38 – Why does telling people to change typically not work?

    30:30 – “Our brains don’t know it’s the 21st century”

    33:25 – Social hierarchy in MI conversations: Counselors taking the “lower                             place”

    46:45 – Oppositional behavior as adaptive

    53:24 – “It takes two to resist”

    1:00:20 – The Rogerian influence on MI through an evolutionary lens

    1:11:20 – MI helps deactivate unconscious mechanisms that hinder behavior change

    1:19:45 – Understanding impact on clinicians

    1:22:59 – End of recording

    Links and contact information:



    * Email: AbilioDeAlmeidaNeto@justice.nsw.gov.au



               Abilio_Neto@yahoo.com.au



    * Twitter: @billneto4

    * Citation for paper: de Almeida Neto, A. C. (2017). Understanding Motivational Interviewing: an Evolutionary Perspective. Evolutionary Psychological Science, DOI 10.1007/s40806-017-0096-6



    For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us

    • 1 hr 22 min
    MI in Dietetics

    MI in Dietetics

    Episode 33 – MI in Dietetics

    In this episode of the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore MI in Dietetics with Orla Adams. Orla is a dietitian specialising in weight management. She divides her time between delivering this service in Cardiff and Vale University Health Board and providing MI training across the UK to various disciplines.  Orla attended her first MI workshop in 2006, became a member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers) in 2011, and is a supportive committee member for MINT UK and Ireland.  She is currently the Chair for the Program Planning Committee for the annual international MINT Forum.  Orla is originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland and lives in Cardiff with her husband and two sons.  She loves running, baking and learning to ice skate, not very successfully.

    0:00 – Opening/introduction

    5:35 – Orla’s introduction and MI background

    9:55 – Early lessons from the MI spirit: Empathy and acceptance

    14:20 – How do we know if it is working?

    19:30 – Self-discovery, skill development, and a quieter mind

    23:30 – MI Applications: Selective eating

    32:30 – Continued learning beyond the workshop

    44:20 – Orla’s future directions: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

    50:28 – End of recording

    Links and contact information



    * Email: orlaadams76@gmail.com

    * Twitter: @orlaadams



    For suggestions, questions and to contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us

    • 50 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
50 Ratings

50 Ratings

mcanono ,

Excellent Intro to MI

I started listening to this knowing some basic theory of MI and had just started a job where I would need to use it. It has been invaluable and I love that they do situation-specific episodes if you have a certain kind of person you are trying to help. They are also fun and easy to listen to. I have recommended this to all of my colleagues and others interested in MI.

Rachel Silv ,

Extremely Helpful!

I am a Health Coach with a focus of helping my clients create a sustainable exercise routine. This podcast has been a game changer for helping me gain a deeper and more thorough understanding of Motivational Interviewing. I feel much better equipped to help my clients find the desire to change from within themselves and in a sustainable way!

lisalisap ,

Excellent

I love listening to this podcast. These two gentlemen are so intelligent and empathetic and curious it is such a pleasure to hear their conversation, explanations and in depth interviews with a variety of knowledgeable practitioners and researchers in the field of MI and more.

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