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A Psychology and Schema Therapy Podcast by Drs Justine Corry and Gemma Gladstone from the Good Mood Clinic in Sydney, Australia. In this podcast, two clinical psychologists take an in-depth look at the common issues their clients bring to therapy and offer listeners new ways to think about their own lives and the people around them. With a mixture of conversations, meditations, case studies and interviews, these two experienced psychologists bring you plenty to think about and loads of valuable ideas and practical tips. Justine Corry, Clinical Psychologist, BSocSc (Hons); MSocSc; MPsychol(Clin); PhD (UNSW). Gemma Gladstone, Advanced Certified Schema Therapist, Trainer and Supervisor (ISST). BA (Hons) GradDip (Psychotherapy); Cert (Clin Hypnosis); PhD (UNSW). Music by Glenn Brace. Artwork by Nigel Sanft

The Good Mood Clinic Podcast Gemma Gladstone and Justine Corry

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A Psychology and Schema Therapy Podcast by Drs Justine Corry and Gemma Gladstone from the Good Mood Clinic in Sydney, Australia. In this podcast, two clinical psychologists take an in-depth look at the common issues their clients bring to therapy and offer listeners new ways to think about their own lives and the people around them. With a mixture of conversations, meditations, case studies and interviews, these two experienced psychologists bring you plenty to think about and loads of valuable ideas and practical tips. Justine Corry, Clinical Psychologist, BSocSc (Hons); MSocSc; MPsychol(Clin); PhD (UNSW). Gemma Gladstone, Advanced Certified Schema Therapist, Trainer and Supervisor (ISST). BA (Hons) GradDip (Psychotherapy); Cert (Clin Hypnosis); PhD (UNSW). Music by Glenn Brace. Artwork by Nigel Sanft

    Mailbox: Co-parenting with a Narcissist Ex and Supporting your Partner with Their Schema Therapy

    Mailbox: Co-parenting with a Narcissist Ex and Supporting your Partner with Their Schema Therapy

    Welcome to another episode of The Good Mood Clinic Podcast!
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    In today’s mailbox episode, Gemma and Justine address two questions submitted by two different listeners. One of the questions is about co-parenting children with a narcissistic ex-partner and how to protect them from the negative influences of their narcissistic parent. The other question is about supporting a partner while they have schema therapy. 
    Like any other personality trait, type, or disorder, narcissism falls on a continuum, so every case is different and comes with its own level of difficulty. People can fall anywhere on the spectrum, from having a few narcissistic traits to being an extremely toxic pathological and malignant narcissist. Some people with narcissistic traits could also have some healthy traits. So you might be able to communicate with them rationally in their healthy moments, while others may have more extreme traits and can be more difficult to deal with as a co-parent.
    Narcissism is a complicated topic, and co-parenting your children with a narcissistic ex-partner can be very tricky. You can go back and listen to episodes 14, 17, 20, and 22 to gain a deeper understanding of narcissism and learn how to deal with the narcissist in your life. Those episodes also cover how to manage your narcissistic parents when you are an adult. 
    Show highlights:
    Justine reads out and discusses the email that Joe sent in asking how to support his teenage daughters without undermining their relationship with their narcissistic mother.Gemma explains how Joe can keep the lines of communication with his kids open. Justine explains to Joe how he can provide a safe space and be an emotional coach for his kids.What you can do when your child comes home and shares a distressing story about something that has happened at their other parent’s house.Talking to your kids about boundaries.There are many resources available on the topic of narcissism.Justine and Gemma summarize and discuss Karen’s question about how to help and support her partner while he is doing schema therapy.How to cope with a partner with an emotional deprivation and a self-sacrifice schema.Coming up with a plan when your partner and you both get triggered.Why you should never throw things that people have said to you when they are vulnerable back in their faces.How the subjugation and self-sacrifice schemas are correlated.Links:
    Free webinar on co-parenting with a narcissist:
    https://susanstif

    Emotion Coaching information 

    Books:
    Disarming the Narcissist, by Wendy Behary

    • 54 min
    BONUS - Meditation: 'Inner Child' Connection & Healing

    BONUS - Meditation: 'Inner Child' Connection & Healing

    Listen to a meditation by Dr Gemma Gladstone, where she takes you on a journey to connect with and start to heal an inner child part of you who needs love and connection.  This meditation is very gentle and may assist you to develop a greater sense of compassion for yourself as a whole.  The meditation only focuses on you and a child part of you who feels alone or  overwhelmed by difficult emotions.  It might be listened to as an adjunct to the individual therapy you are receiving, especially if the therapy is working on childhood issues.  If you have lots of pain around your childhood and if you have experienced trauma in your childhood, we recommend that you seek therapy to help you work through those issues rather than relying only on self-help methods.  

    • 29 min
    Fifty Shades of Red: How Knowing Your Schemas Can Prevent Toxic Relationships

    Fifty Shades of Red: How Knowing Your Schemas Can Prevent Toxic Relationships

    Welcome to another episode of The Good Mood Clinic Podcast!

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    Some distinct red flags tend to show up in the very early stages of dating that indicate that the person you are dating is likely to become emotionally unavailable, controlling, or toxic in a relationship. When you are in that situation, it can be hard to understand what is going on, and if you really want the relationship to work out, you could even become resistant and fail to recognize your schemas when they come up.

    Today, Gemma and Justine continue with their series on the indicators of coerciveness or control in the early stages of dating. In the last episode, they did a therapist/client role-play to help you identify some early markers of controlling behaviors, understand what they mean, and recognize the feelings that tend to arise when that happens. In this episode, they refer to that role-play and take a deeper dive into the topic. They focus on schemas that might come up for the client and analyze what could be going on with her internally after being triggered by the guy she is dating. Stay tuned today to find out about the schemas that could make you vulnerable to control and learn how to avoid the possibility of landing up in a toxic relationship.

    Show highlights:
    It can be confusing when being romantic and taking control crosses the line into becoming insensitive and controlling.Schemas that could make you vulnerable to being controlled or cloud your judgment.How an abandonment schema could affect you.The best mindset to adopt, when you have an abandonment schema and start dating.How a subjugation schema could affect you.Someone making fun of you, or a put-down made in jest, on a first date is a red flag.The difference between being self-sacrificing and being subjugated.How a defectiveness schema could affect you. It is vital to have self-respect and protect the vulnerable child within you.Why do we need relationships to learn about ourselves?What a dependence schema is all about.Looking at schema chemistry. (What happens when you are attracted to someone who could potentially wound you in the same way you were wounded as a child?)Justine explains what the ‘downstairs brain’ is.Justine and Gemma talk about their upcoming webinar.Other links and resources:
    Books:
    Reinventing Your Life by Janet S. Klosko and Jeffrey Young
    The Journey from Abandonment to Healing by Susan Anderson
    See What You Made Me Do by Jess Hill
    The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
    In Control by Jane Monckton Smith

    Webinar Link:
    Schema Chemistry: Understanding the Role of Schemas in Romantic Attraction
    The webinar will take place on Thursday the 28th of October at Australian Eastern Standard Time

    • 56 min
    Fifty Shades of Red: Very Early Indicators of Coercive Control

    Fifty Shades of Red: Very Early Indicators of Coercive Control

    Welcome to another episode of The Good Mood Clinic Podcast!

    Go straight to THE RED FLAG PROJECT course for women
    Visit our website THE GOOD MOOD CLINIC
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    For confidential information, counseling, and support service go to     https://1800respect.org.au.
    Ask us a question or suggest a topic by emailing: justineandgemma@goodmood.com.au

    Managing all the uncertainty surrounding the pandemic can be tough and make it hard for many of us to remain grounded during these challenging times. That’s why we need to talk openly with our kids about anything that could be worrying them and spend some extra time on our self-care right now.
    Gemma and Justine are passionate about helping women make better choices in their relationships. In this new series of episodes, they will be focusing on helping women to identify the red flags that tend to show up very early on when dating, or in relationships, that could potentially lead to emotional unavailability in a partner, a partner being controlling, or a more dangerous outcome.
    In the past, Justine and Gemma have both been in relationships with unavailable partners. Many of their clients have also experienced problematic relationship patterns. In this episode, they will be talking about some of the markers that might show up soon after you meet someone that could give away a tendency for them to become controlling and toxic in a relationship. Stay tuned today to learn about coercive control and how to spot some of the darker red flags that might show up early on when you are dating someone.

    Show highlights:
    Justine talks about what they will be exploring over the next three podcasts.   Gemma shares some devastating statistics.A pattern of coercive control often precedes violent crimes against women.Justine and Gemma do a role play to show what coercive control looks like when it shows up in the early stages of dating.Getting into an intimate or sexual relationship can set a woman’s attachment system off. That makes it harder to make rational and healthy adult decisions.Mentioning an ex can be a red flag.A manipulative attempt can often be dressed up with romantic gestures.Some examples of how a healthy person would treat you, compared with someone potentially coercive or controlling.Pseudo intimacy may feel a bit off, but it could also feel pleasantly romantic.What does it show you when the guy you are dating posits himself as a victim and his ex as a perpetrator in the stories he tells?Slow down, collect data, and speak out when you do not feel comfortable.Why do you need to notice it when you start feeling guilty? Other links and resources:
    Books:
    Reinventing Your Life by Janet S. Klosko and Jeffrey Young
    The Journey from Abandonment to Healing by Susan Anderson
    See What You Made Me Do by Jess Hill
    The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
     In Control by Jane Monckton Smith
         

    • 55 min
    The Mailbox: Schemas and Friendships: Abandonment in Platonic Relationships

    The Mailbox: Schemas and Friendships: Abandonment in Platonic Relationships

    Welcome to another episode of The Good Mood Clinic Podcast!
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    Some people find it very hard to cope if their best friend goes out with another friend or starts a new friendship with someone else. They might find themselves feeling cut off, needy, jealous, or even angry. Abandonment triggers in a friendship can be just as strong as those in a romantic relationship. Especially if that friendship is a special one and the friend is someone important to you. In those situations, the same feelings could come up as they would in a romantic relationship. That can be quite confusing.

    In this episode, Gemma and Justine answer a mailbox question they received from a therapist who wrote in asking for tips for some of her clients struggling with an abandonment schema and friendships. Those clients were finding it very hard to cope with the problems they experienced in their platonic relationships. Stay tuned today to hear about the triggers that can come up in your friendships when you have an abandonment schema and learn what to do to create healthier relationships.

    Show highlights:
    Gemma and Justine talk about some of the situations in a friendship that could trigger an abandonment schema.Having an abandonment schema triggered can cause feelings of shame or make people feel like something is wrong with them.Sometimes, we have friendships that are not good for us. Those relationships can be very triggering.Justine and Gemma discuss what defines a healthy friendship.Repairing a relationship with a friend can sometimes be harder than repairing a romantic relationship.Some characteristics of schema-driven friendships.Relationships can be hard work.Triggers are often small and can represent a difference or a separation. Not all situations need to be discussed. Sometimes you only need to sit with your feelings.Moving away from the black and white/all or nothing frame of reference is vital in healthy relationships.It helps to understand that all relationships go through cycles of rupture and repair.Other links and resources:
    Books:
    Reinventing Your Life By Janet S. Klosko and Jeffrey Young
    The Journey from Abandonment to Healing by Susan Anderson

    Podcast Justine mentioned: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-peter-attia-drive/id1400828889?i=1000484615115

    • 43 min
    The Mailbox: Help! I'm Avoiding Relationships Because They're too Painful

    The Mailbox: Help! I'm Avoiding Relationships Because They're too Painful

    Welcome to another episode of The Good Mood Clinic Podcast!
     
    Go straight to THE RED FLAG PROJECT course for women
    Click here for the Break-Up Guide
    Visit our website THE GOOD MOOD CLINIC  (Go to our website to download Ten Characteristics of an Emotionally Unavailable Partner on the Podcast Page!)
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    Ask us a question or suggest a topic by emailing: justineandgemma@goodmood.com.au

    Gemma and Justine have another conversation in their series on breakups and schemas today.

    If you have ever experienced a breakup when you have an abandonment schema, you know how traumatic it is. So it is understandable if you would want to avoid going through that pain again. In this episode, Justine and Gemma share a mailbox segment. They answer a question sent in by a client of Justine, who is in the process of addressing her abandonment schema. Although she is doing well and has started experimenting with finding a relationship, she has become aware of a strong urge to avoid looking for a partner because she fears the feelings that might arise if things fail to work out.

    In trying to care for herself in the longer term, Justine’s client is struggling to deal with her fears around the possibility of having to feel the feelings of abandonment again.  Be sure to stay tuned today to find out what to do and how to cope if you are in that situation.

    Show highlights:
    Gemma and Justine explain why people might intentionally choose to avoid relationships.There is a difference between someone avoiding finding a romantic partner due to the pain of an abandonment schema and someone who is not interested in a relationship.Life can be easier if you avoid relationships, but it can also be lonely.Even when you understand your schemas and can use that framework to understand your past relationship decisions and how they played out, it can still be difficult to muster the confidence to trust your decision-making and avoid choosing an unavailable partner. In their Red Flag Project, Gemma and Justine share a specific strategy to help you avoid becoming attached to people too quickly.Once you can spot the red flags, you will realize how much you have changed. Although you cannot avoid your emotional triggers, you can learn to respond in healthier ways.How to cope when you realize that your defectiveness schema has been triggered.Download Ten Characteristics of an Emotionally Unavailable Partner on the podcast page on our website!What you can do if you are struggling to find someone you like.Even if you do not feel it initially, you could end up having amazing chemistry with someone who meets your emotional needs.Dating is about self-development as well as finding a partner. Doing the right kind of work can help shift your thoughts and feelings of hopelessness and remove your internal barriers to finding someone.Books:
    Reinventing Your Life
    Reinventing Your Life By Janet S. Klosko and Jeffrey Young       
    The Journey from Abandonment to Healing by Susan Anderson

    • 43 min

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