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How do uninvited life challenges like chronic illness or loss change us? Psychotherapist Lauren Selfridge hosts compassionate, humorous conversations with people who have been there. Through their insights and wisdom, you're invited to explore the bigger questions about life: Why are we here? What does fulfillment really mean? How do our relationships nourish us? And what will we leave behind when we're gone?

This Is Not What I Ordered: conversations on chronic illness, loss + change Lauren Selfridge

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.9 • 118 Ratings

How do uninvited life challenges like chronic illness or loss change us? Psychotherapist Lauren Selfridge hosts compassionate, humorous conversations with people who have been there. Through their insights and wisdom, you're invited to explore the bigger questions about life: Why are we here? What does fulfillment really mean? How do our relationships nourish us? And what will we leave behind when we're gone?

    Ménière's Disease, Hearing Loss + Missed Communication

    Ménière's Disease, Hearing Loss + Missed Communication

    This week, join me for a co-hosted episode alongside returning guest, Melissa Platt. She is a clinical psychologist who specializes in working with survivors of complex trauma, and since she last joined me, has received a Ménière's disease diagnosis. In our candid conversation, we explore the complexities of living with progressive health challenges, the impact on one's identity, and the vital role of open and honest communication. Melissa's personal journey serves as a poignant backdrop for us to understand the intricate landscape of life with a chronic health condition, and together, we share insights, laughter, and a reminder that authentic connections and understanding can profoundly influence this journey.
    Examining the crucial themes of connection and communication within the context of chronic illness, we also shine a light on Melissa’s experiences with Ménière's disease and how she's adapting to progressive hearing loss, as well as my experiences with multiple sclerosis and personal identity. Throughout our conversation, we emphasize the importance of genuine support networks, and share amusing anecdotes that illustrate both the humor and hurdles encountered along our respective health journeys. As you will hear, our dialogue showcases how language, resilience, and accompaniment can make a powerful difference when navigating life with chronic health conditions. 
    Episode Highlights:
    Melissa's Ménière's disease diagnosis and her journey with progressive health challenges
    The vital importance of being heard, both literally and emotionally, in our relationships
    Navigating the complexities of identity and self-awareness amidst health challenges
    Coping with the uncertainties surrounding future health outcomes
    The value of compassion and empathy when facing adversity
    Amusing miscommunication anecdotes highlighting communication hurdles
    The transformative power of non-verbal communication and meaningful connection
    Quotes:
    "I knew this hearing loss was going to happen, and that's why I've been taking steps to stay in communication, to stay in connection, no matter what."
    "It's not forever, even though my current self doesn't believe that."
    "When living a life with any kind of chronic health challenges, communication feels so important to find other human beings who you feel heard by."
    "I think those are two spins on the concept of being heard. One is literal and the other is more of an emotional feeling of being known and witnessed."
    “I was like, ‘I need to find my people.’"
    "The power of language in shaping self-perception and self-esteem is truly remarkable."
    "True connections are formed based on emotional resonance."
    "Don't give up because there's probably someone feeling the exact same way somewhere."
     
    “Everybody deserves to have people they can text and say, “Guess what just happened?” Or have a deep conversation with, or just sit with and not have to talk and just be around each other - whatever it is that you desire. I think you get to choose your people.”
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge
    Melissa Platt
     

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Partner TBI & Journeying Through the Grief Portal

    Partner TBI & Journeying Through the Grief Portal

    Joining me on the podcast today is our very special guest, Shideh Etaat, an Iranian-American writer. Shideh holds an MFA in creative writing from San Francisco State University and has recently unveiled her debut literary masterpiece, Rana Joon and the One and Only Now. Today, Shideh shares an emotionally resonant narrative, recounting the day of her police officer husband's traumatic brain injury and the following six years since. 
    Brace yourself for an impactful exploration of the "grief portal," a term Shideh uses to illustrate her voyage through abrupt trauma, a journey that reconnects her with spiritual insights, acceptance, and grace. In the face of seemingly insurmountable challenges, Shideh demonstrates remarkable determination, ushering healing and transformation into her own life and the lives of those around her. The episode unfolds as an intriguing tapestry of themes, including steadfast devotion, the profound impact of grief, and the remarkable strength that arises from profound challenge. Join us as Shideh unveils her extraordinary odyssey through grief and beyond, a journey that will undoubtedly leave you equal parts moved and inspired to embrace your own capacity for growth and renewal.
    Episode Highlights:
    Shideh's childhood experiences, early awareness, and anxiety
    Intergenerational trauma from her family's escape during the Iranian revolution
    The challenges Shideh encountered in parenthood and healing her inner child
    Her husband's traumatic brain injury, and the resulting shock, fear, and resilience
    Shideh's shift to a deeper spiritual perspective on her husband's condition
    Mobilizing positivity and hope amid medical uncertainty
    Protective denial during pregnancy, focusing on her husband's potential
    Themes of devotion, grief, resilience, and finding meaning in adversity.
    Quotes:
    "I think for me at least, a lot of parenting is about healing my inner child stuff by doing things differently with my son."
    "I was experiencing the situation on two levels: which was what I was seeing with my eye and what the doctors were telling me… And then I could see underneath that to the spiritual, soul-level journey of this person who I love deeply. And I felt very strongly like I was playing a role in that.
    "There's always some goodness you can hold on to and try and focus on."
    "The idea of comparing our journeys to those around us is so detrimental to our well-being."
    "Owning your own experience as uniquely yours–that's a beautiful definition of liberation."
    "I am holding life and death together. I am constantly holding opposing things inside of my body and my heart."
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge
    Shideh Etaat
     

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Partnering With Yourself While Navigating The Unknown

    Partnering With Yourself While Navigating The Unknown

    My guest this week is Michelle Irving, who combines training with personal experience to offer mentorship and coaching around career and chronic illness. A gifted teacher, and a globally in-demand speaker and writer, Michelle is driven by a mission to de-shame and transform conversations around illness. Drawing upon her extensive training in somatic therapy, cancer survivorship, and women's leadership, her life's work and living legacy are dedicated to helping individuals foster positive self-relationships amidst illness, aiming for lives filled with love, meaningful work, and empowerment.
    Together, we explore the complexities of chronic illness and the importance of reframing our relationships with ourselves. We also discuss maintaining hope and connection during life's uncertainties, and Michelle shares her four stages of coping with the unknown. Throughout this thought-provoking episode, we’ll explore acceptance, emotional stages of navigating illness, self-compassion, and resilience. Michelle's wisdom, storytelling, and vulnerability make this episode a must-listen.
     
    Episode Highlights:
    Embracing uncertainty on the way to empowerment
    Fostering self-connection during challenges
    Navigating grief and resilience in life transitions
    Developing self-trust step by step
    Prioritizing curiosity over problem-solving
    Cultivating self-trust with a “future-self” perspective
    Sustaining hope and connection in life's unpredictability
    Seeing chronic illness as a journey
    Practicing self-compassion
    Understanding emotional stages
    Balancing career with self-care
    Quotes:
    "And the one or the couple of things we lose connection to is hope because it feels dangerous. And we lose connection to our longings because it's like, “Okay, what you want has to go in a box, and you can't even open that box until you're well.”"
    "I'm nervous about traveling… there's little parts of me that are like, “But we really liked our couch.” And there's other parts of me. It's like, “Yeah, but we get to go to Rome.”"
    "Can I have compassion for myself that I can't have compassion for myself? Yes, I can do that because both things get to be true at once."
    "No matter where you are, it's never the end of the story."
    "Acceptance is the opposite of rejection. And if part of what we're doing is rejecting some element of reality, then the most loving response is essentially what you're saying is to create some acceptance of that rejection."
    "I think my purpose is to not abandon myself and be as connected to myself as possible, so that every moment, even if I don't know who I am in terms of identity, I know that I can trust my heart, and what my heart feels is the next right thing for me."
    "I need to know that I can have Thursdays to lie in bed regardless, and I need to know where to get help."
    "We only work with people we love. That's it. If we don't love you, and I don't mean that in a codependent way, but if this isn't a fit, it's not a fit. We don't struggle then to try and work out how to do it because it has to have some ease in the process and some delight."
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge
    Michelle Irving
     

    • 57 min
    Body Image, Entrepreneurship + Indigenous Identity with Alison Tedford Seaweed

    Body Image, Entrepreneurship + Indigenous Identity with Alison Tedford Seaweed

    Today I'm joined by Alison Tedford Seaweed: a Canadian consultant, author and mother who lives with hypermobile ehlers-danlos syndrome, chronic idiopathic urticaria and ADHD. Alison wrote a book called "Chronic Profit" about running a business while managing chronic pain and finds new ways to cope every day.
    In today's conversation, we discuss new, creative, and hilariously uplifting ways to rethink our relationships with our bodies amidst chronic illness, disordered eating, and a productivity-focused culture, as well as Alison's definition of Indigenous inclusion and her identity as a Kwakiutl First Nation member from a family of ʼNakwaxdaʼxw ancestry. There is so much depth and laughter in our conversation and I hope you enjoy the many insights Alison shares.
    Alison shares about her personal journey navigating chronic illness, and the complexities of dealing with body image issues. As our discussion unfolds, we reflect on life's purpose and the continuous journey of self-discovery, highlighting the profound importance of stillness and self-care in our fast-paced world. Alison also shares her unique journey of self-discovery, celebrating Indigenous culture, and the profound significance of reclaiming her last name, Seaweed. Join us for this very special episode where the themes of resilience and the concept of "enoughness" take center stage, and where you can always rest assured that your presence is, indeed, the most valuable gift of all.
    Episode Highlights:
    The transformative power of connecting with nature
    Consulting work in helping businesses share their stories
    Navigating chronic illness and body image issues, emphasizing self-compassion and humor
    Cherishing stillness and self-care in a fast-paced world
    Alison’s journey of self-discovery and celebrating Indigenous culture.
    The importance of Indigenous inclusion and its benefits
    Alison on reclaiming her last name, Seaweed, and its significance


    Quotes:
    "I do a lot of work with different companies and helping them share their stories, often as they relate to their connection to Indigenous people... imagining ways to be more inclusive.”
    "I went from being super happy with my body because it could do a lot of things to then feeling really frustrated with my body because it couldn't do all of the things."
    "Indigenous inclusion isn't doing a favor to Indigenous people. It's a benefit to the people who are welcoming us to the table."
    "In reconnecting with language, I'm getting to learn so much more about the values of my culture and my family."
    "Fulfillment has been knowing that there's enough."
    "When people are feeling like there isn't enough or that there's scarcity, it isn't an attitude problem. It can just be situational awareness."
    "Your presence is a gift, and you don't have to do anything to earn the right to be here."
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge
    Alison Tedford Seaweed
     

    • 59 min
    Chronic Illness and The Holidays: Tips for Joy & Connection

    Chronic Illness and The Holidays: Tips for Joy & Connection

     
    In today’s special bonus episode, I delve into the topic of navigating the holidays with loved ones while dealing with chronic illness. The holiday season can be both joyous and challenging, especially when we want to connect with family and friends who may not fully understand our health challenges. In today’s episode, I discuss the importance of communication and setting clear expectations with loved ones, the power of sharing our health challenges openly, and the value of staying connected with others who understand what we're going through. 
    I also share my own personal experience of living with multiple sclerosis for a decade, and offer valuable insights to help you create a meaningful and fulfilling holiday season, even in the midst of health challenges. Finally, you’ll hear about my upcoming holiday workbook, A Gentle Guide to Creating Joy and Connection for the Holidays While Living with Chronic Illness and Health Challenges,  which is designed to help you navigate the holiday season more effectively. So, let's dive into this episode and explore practical ways to make your holidays more enjoyable and inclusive.
    For more valuable insights and guidance on navigating the holiday season with chronic illness, be sure to listen to the full episode. And if you're interested in exploring the holiday workbook mentioned in the episode, visit www.thisisnotwhatiordered.com 
    Episode Highlights
    The importance of asking loved ones for what you need during the holiday season
    The value of sharing your health challenges openly and authentically with family and friends
    Tips on managing expectations and helping your loved ones understand your unique situation
    Strategies for staying connected with friends and loved ones who also have health challenges
    The significance of simply being present and not feeling pressured to be at your best during the holidays
    A gentle holiday preparation workbook designed to help you navigate the season with ease
     
    Quotes
    "I think if I had really been told that I could share and actually have that be a positive thing, it really would have changed my experience of showing up with a body that has its own plans and feel less alone."
    "When we can share more openly about what's going on for us, I think it invites people into our world and it invites them to be in the messiness with us and helps us feel like we've got companions."
    "The people who love you just want to be around you. So keep that in mind, even if you've got people who care about you and maybe they don't quite understand how to show up for you, or maybe they're feeling their own emotions."
    "Just being in the room with you is significant. You may have a ton of symptoms. You may have a bad mood sometimes. You might not feel like your full self. You might just be dealing with not feeling up for quite the social interaction that you used to or that you wish you could be up for. Just know that that's okay."
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge

    • 21 min
    Savoring This Moment as a Highly Sensitive Person

    Savoring This Moment as a Highly Sensitive Person

    This week, I’m joined by returning guest, April Snow. She’s a psychotherapist and author of The Empowered Highly Sensitive Person's Journal and The Mindfulness Workbook for Stress Relief. Specializing in working with highly sensitive people (HSPs), April’s compelling experience in this vocation has greatly enhanced her profound understanding of what it means to live authentically.
    Together, we explore the world of HSPs, discussing how being highly sensitive intersects with other aspects of our identities, along with the necessity and complexity of pursuing justice as HSPs. We explore the themes of grief, self-acceptance, the unique strengths of HSPs, and the beauty and challenges of embracing our sensitivity. You’re invited to share in these personal stories that touch upon the depth and richness of life that comes with being highly sensitive.
     
    Episode Highlights:
    The nature of high sensitivity and its impact on our lives
    The ongoing process of embracing one's unique traits as an HSP and finding relief in self-acceptance
    Positive effects of deep emotional experiences and empathy in the lives of HSPs
    Emotional challenges that often accompany high sensitivity and how we cope with them
    Finding resonance and wonder in life's subtle details
    Cultural misunderstandings about sensitivity
    Celebrating the gift of being highly sensitive
    The significance of modeling self-acceptance for personal and professional growth
    How high sensitivity intersects with various identities and the challenges and strengths that arise from these intersections
    What our roles are as deeply feeling activists

    Quotes:
    "When you're highly sensitive, you process information more deeply, feel everything more intensely, and take in subtleties in your environment more than most people."
    "It's really important to self-calibrate and find other HSPs. Don't look outside for how to set up your life based on people who don't experience the world as you do."
    "Discovering that I'm highly sensitive and having empathy for myself, letting it be okay to be different, is maybe the greatest work."
    "Seeing someone fully embody excitement and exuberance, which only HSPs can feel so deeply, is really healing."
    "I see what is possible. A lot of the parts of my experience that are the most important to me are because I'm highly sensitive."
    "HSPs possess a unique kind of exuberance, appreciating and savoring the beauty of the present moment."
    "HSPs often aren't taken as seriously when we notice those little details or we have different experiences when we're interacting with healthcare providers."
    “We do have a purpose here. We have this trait for a reason.”
     
    Links:
    This Is Not What I Ordered
    Lauren Selfridge
    April Snow
     

    • 57 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
118 Ratings

118 Ratings

CelestiHel ,

For Everyone, Even Grumps Like Me!

Look, some part of me just seems to reject a lot of things that are too gentle, too sweet, etc. (I have a therapist, thank you, it’s fine 😆) but I have listened to EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE. and somehow, Lauren and her guests bring me riiiiiiight up to the line without triggering that too hard, too cynical place so that even I feel belonging and validation in this space. I learn so much, my heart opens a little more each time. It’s a straight up gift to humanity, thank you!

Miss Shana T. ,

A place one can relate

This is not what I ordered is an uplifting place to be. One with Chronic illness can relate to so many of Lauren’s guests. Lauren shines light and sometimes laughter on her show. This show shined a bright light when I was in a dark place searching for a diagnosis.

Allmojo ,

Wonderful podcast and much needed topic

Lauren is an absolute delight and wonderful interviewer! One of my most favorite podcasts.

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