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Welcome to the new B2B Revenue Vitals podcast, formerly State of Demand Gen. On this podcast, you’ll learn how to build a high-growth company from Refine Labs' CEO, Chris Walker. From proving new revenue programs to identifying and scaling programs that work, to training your team to operate at scale, you will understand what it takes to create a predictable pipeline of revenue innovation that drives compounding gains. Through interviews, AMAs, and invite-only events, we give you a sneak peek into the data-backed insights we are executing for the fastest-growing SaaS companies in the world.

B2B Revenue Vitals B2B Refine Labs

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    • 4.8 • 30 Ratings

Welcome to the new B2B Revenue Vitals podcast, formerly State of Demand Gen. On this podcast, you’ll learn how to build a high-growth company from Refine Labs' CEO, Chris Walker. From proving new revenue programs to identifying and scaling programs that work, to training your team to operate at scale, you will understand what it takes to create a predictable pipeline of revenue innovation that drives compounding gains. Through interviews, AMAs, and invite-only events, we give you a sneak peek into the data-backed insights we are executing for the fastest-growing SaaS companies in the world.

    RV199 - Expert Session: GTM Programs & Marketing ROI

    RV199 - Expert Session: GTM Programs & Marketing ROI

    Chris was joined by Tom Wentworth, CMO @ Recorded Future, to talk about GTM programs and Marketing ROI. Their discussion focused on guiding marketers aspiring to senior roles, offering rich insights into account selection, demand creation, and the relationship between marketing and finance.

    Tom emphasizes the importance of narrowing down account focus, even for large enterprises, suggesting that a smaller, targeted set of accounts can yield better results. They dig into practical challenges and solutions in demand creation, attributing their lower cost per opportunity to a more strategic allocation of marketing spend. Tom’s advocacy for direct mail as a unique, effective tactic highlights an often-overlooked channel. Moreover, the value of robust financial relationships, notably with the CFO, and the innovative use of a news organization to drive engagement and brand authority are discussed in depth.

    Then, they spent time on listener questions, going into the specifics of Direct Mail tactics and messaging. 

    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. ⁠Register here⁠.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? ⁠Submit it here⁠.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at ⁠www.hatch.fm⁠

    • 46 min
    RV198 - Content Strategy AMA

    RV198 - Content Strategy AMA

    Chris Walker joins Erik Jacobson, CEO at Hatch, to host a full hour AMA on Content Creation. This session dives deep into the nuances of content strategy, focusing on the importance of integrating various content forms—such as podcasts, social media, YouTube, and blogs—into a unified strategy that aligns with business goals. Chris and Eric discuss how content is no longer solely a marketing responsibility but should involve the entire go-to-market team, including sales and customer success departments.

    Throughout the episode, Chris elaborates on how to establish a strong content strategy by understanding and framing customer problems, exploring various use cases, and differentiating your product through a unique value proposition. They wrap up by addressing practical concerns like when to initiate an organic content strategy, the value of deleting ineffective activities, and methods for balancing SEO with organic content. The conversation also includes practical examples and experiments Chris is currently undertaking to optimize his own content strategies, such as leveraging AI for SEO.

    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

    • 54 min
    RV197 - Marketing ROI and Unit Economics | Go To Market Live Episode 23

    RV197 - Marketing ROI and Unit Economics | Go To Market Live Episode 23

    In this week’s event, Chris talks marketing budgets, unit economics, and go-to-market strategies. Kicking off with a company update from Passetto, Chris shares the exciting news of their expanding team and the positive trend in customer renewals, signaling early success. He emphasizes the importance of unit economics in marketing, debunking the myth that budget constraints are the primary issue for CMOs.

    Chris highlights the stark differences between average and high-performing companies, discussing how effective investment in marketing and SDRs can drastically alter business outcomes. He elaborates on the benefits of deletion over addition in marketing strategy, advocating for the elimination of low-performing investments to enhance ROI. The episode also touches on practical strategies for improving win rates, pipeline value, and overall marketing efficiency. Essential for anyone involved in B2B marketing or executive decision-making, this episode offers a treasure trove of actionable insights and strategic advice



    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

    • 55 min
    RV196 - Maximizing Go-to-Market Strategies for Enhanced Business Growth | Go To Market Live Episode 22

    RV196 - Maximizing Go-to-Market Strategies for Enhanced Business Growth | Go To Market Live Episode 22

    In this week’s event, Chris shares his recent reflections and insights following a rejuvenating vacation in Italy. He emphasizes the importance of taking breaks to gain new perspectives on business strategies and operations. Through a holistic approach, he discusses everything from achieving marketing efficiency and improving sales win rates to the evolving role of AI in the marketing landscape. His strategic insights are aimed at optimizing the go-to-market strategy, offering plenty of actionable advice for entrepreneurs and business leaders.

    Chris shifts into the concept of a unified go-to-market strategy, discussing how connecting different departments and aligning them towards a common goal can significantly enhance business performance. He touches on topics like setting appropriate marketing KPIs, increasing sales win rates, and the intricate balance between short-term objectives and long-term growth. The episode also explores practical AI applications, including automated content creation, data enrichment for SDRs, and more innovative technologies that are transforming the way companies operate.



    Special thanks to Sidney Waterfall and everyone who took over on the call when Spectrum’s regional outage affected Chris’s recording studio!



    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

    • 51 min
    RV195 - LinkedIn Strategy and B2B Trends | Good Content

    RV195 - LinkedIn Strategy and B2B Trends | Good Content

    Chris joined Peter Conforti on the Good Content series to discuss a range of critical topics in B2B Marketing and SaaS. From dissecting LinkedIn’s algorithms to redefining go-go-market strategies in the current economic environment, Chris brings a wealth of knowledge and practical insights to the table. 

    Chris kicks off the discussion by sharing his observations on LinkedIn’s evolving algorithms and its impact on follower engagement. He then goes into the metrics that really matter for marketers, emphasizing the importance of quality inbound DM’s over mere post reach. The conversation covers the nuanced strategies needed to thrive in today’s B2B SaaS landscape, especially for companies navigating the shift from growth-at-all-costs to a balanced focus on growth and profitability.



    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

    • 46 min
    RV194 - Mastering Marketing for Startups | GTM Cheat Code

    RV194 - Mastering Marketing for Startups | GTM Cheat Code

    Chris joined Josh Wagner and Justin Gray on the Cheat Code podcast to explore transformative marketing strategies and the critical role of customer understanding in today’s business landscape. Chris shares his journey from the early days of his career to becoming a leading figure in B2B marketing, emphasizing the need for qualitative research and the ability to pivot based on customer insights. 

    Chris believes that the ultimate “cheat code” in marketing is to understand your customers better than anyone else. Highlighting how qualitative research can provide actionable insights, he talks about his personal experiences and the importance of staying close to the customer. He also discusses the difficulties faced by founders who try to be all things to all people and stresses focusing on who genuinely cares about your product. 



    If you want to have a conversation with Chris and present your current questions, roadblocks, or projects you’re working through, make sure to attend this weekly event every Tuesday at 12 central. Register here.

    Can’t make the event but have a question for Chris? Submit it here.

    Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
30 Ratings

30 Ratings

ChrisR UK ,

An island of data-driven sanity in a sea of hype

Not only does the information provided by Chris, his guests and team have a very practical and actionable character, it directly correlates with the data and insights found in your marketing dataset - for those who have the courage to truly examine them.

Boy8bit ,

The best marketing podcast hands down

One of the few podcasts in the world of marketing that actually gives practical, relevant and actionable insights for modern marketing.

KJPM1984 ,

The most valuable marketing podcast there is

I’ve listened to less than 10 shows and taken so much value from this podcast.

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