55 episodes

Meet leaders who recognized their own pain, worked through it, and stepped up into greater leadership. Each week, we dive into how leaders like you deal with struggle and growth so that you can lead without burnout or loneliness. If you're eager to make an impact in your community or business, Rebecca Ching, LMFT, will give you practical strategies for redefining challenges and vulnerability while becoming a better leader. Find the courage, confidence, clarity, and compassion to step up for yourself and your others--even when things feel really, really hard.

The Unburdened Leader Rebecca Ching, LMFT

    • Education
    • 4.9 • 33 Ratings

Meet leaders who recognized their own pain, worked through it, and stepped up into greater leadership. Each week, we dive into how leaders like you deal with struggle and growth so that you can lead without burnout or loneliness. If you're eager to make an impact in your community or business, Rebecca Ching, LMFT, will give you practical strategies for redefining challenges and vulnerability while becoming a better leader. Find the courage, confidence, clarity, and compassion to step up for yourself and your others--even when things feel really, really hard.

    EP 53: Leading a Sustainable Business & Life Without Burning Out with Racheal Cook

    EP 53: Leading a Sustainable Business & Life Without Burning Out with Racheal Cook

    Our bodies are often the wisest parts of who we are, but we regularly over-ride the messages they send us when they tell us when we’re at capacity. We push through, over-work, see physical and emotional pain as something to overcome instead of important data to take into account about our needs and how we are living. And even if we do take in these messages clearly and see the need for needed shifts and care, it feels like change is not an option or acceptable. So we push ourselves until we crash. And this is often normalized  - sometimes even celebrated - as a part of how we do work and life. And when the body dials up the pain or the anxiety to finally get our attention, the default for many is to become at war with the messenger - seeing our bodies as the enemy instead of the culture of work and health care as the culprit. This is only reinforced by the expectations from work and how everyone else “seems to being doing it all with ease.”My guest today shares her story of working through healing from an unsustainable work schedule where burnout showed up, took her out, and changed her career trajectory. Racheal Cook is an award-winning business strategist who believes entrepreneurship doesn't have to be so complicated. Through her business, The CEO Collective (http://www.theceocollective.com/), she helps women entrepreneurs to scale sustainable businesses without the hustle or burnout. When she's not working with women entrepreneurs, you'll find her playing board games with her 3 kids and husband in Richmond VA.Listen to the full episode to hear:* The formative experiences from Racheal’s childhood that inform how she runs her business today* How Racheal carves out time and capacity to cultivate strong relationships* The support systems and processes Racheal has in place so she can navigate caring for her aging parents and her family without burning out* How acknowledging and honoring the constraints on her time and her capacity helped Racheal build a sustainable businessLearn more about Racheal Cook:* The CEO Collective (http://www.theceocollective.com/)* Instagram: @racheal.cook (https://www.instagram.com/racheal.cook/)Learn more about Rebecca:* rebeccaching.com (https://www.rebeccaching.com/)* Work With Rebecca (https://www.rebeccaching.com/work-with-me)* Sign up for the weekly Unburdened Leader Email (https://view.flodesk.com/pages/5ececca2ff83f400265bbaab)Resources:* Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) - Violence Prevention (https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.html)*

    • 1 hr 7 min
    EP 52: Charlie Gilkey: Leading With What Matters Most

    EP 52: Charlie Gilkey: Leading With What Matters Most

    When you are not clear on what truly matters most to you, how you decide to use your precious time can leave you feeling overwhelmed and lost. And even your sense of time and what you can get done gets skewed by the tyranny of the urgent. Or comparison to how others are doing life and work. Striving and grinding is still the norm in so many spaces. The message is still suck it up, chin up, get it done. And falling or failing is on you and you alone.This mindset is deeply problematic as many are pushing back on these approaches to how we use our time and the expectations around how we do work recognizing how culture and many of the systems we work in contribute to burdening our sense of time. Boundaries around your time mean disappointing people. So if you are focused on over-delivering and making everyone happy, things can get messy, fast.  If what matters most means meeting metrics that are set by others, burnout and disillusionment are inevitable.These dangerous messages have us chasing something we think will give us relief when in fact, we only feel worse when we put this kind of pressure on ourselves My guest today has an approach and a philosophy to time and getting things done that has transformed my relationship with work, time, and my calendar.Charlie Gilkey helps people start finishing the stuff that matters. He's the founder of Productive Flourishing (https://www.productiveflourishing.com/), author of the book Start Finishing (https://bookshop.org/books/start-finishing-how-to-go-from-idea-to-done/9781683648635) (2019) and The Small Business Lifecycle (https://bookshop.org/books/the-small-business-life-cycle-second-edition-a-no-fluff-guide-to-navigating-the-five-stages-of-small-business-growth/9781941142295) (2012), and host of the Productive Flourishing podcast. Before starting Productive Flourishing, Charlie worked as a Joint Force Military Logistics Coordinator while simultaneously pursuing a PhD in Philosophy. He lives with his wife, Angela, in Portland, Oregon.Listen to the full episode to hear:* Why our problems are with expectations, not time management* How we need to shift our relationship to productivity to prioritize values, self-awareness, and compassion* How we end up with so much of what Charlie calls project debt, and how to dig ourselves out of it* Why we need to stop reinforcing the narrative of the busy party* Why leaders need to stop playing the hero or the martyr to their teamsLearn more about Charlie Gilkey:* Productive Flourishing (https://www.productiveflourishing.com/)* Twitter: @CharlieGilkey (https://twitter.com/CharlieGilkey)* Instagram:

    • 1 hr 8 min
    EP 51: Leading Transformational Communities with Shannon Siriano Greenwood

    EP 51: Leading Transformational Communities with Shannon Siriano Greenwood

    The desire to be seen, loved, and belong drives so many of our decisions. Especially when it comes to connecting in community.Community plays a powerful role in our wellbeing and culture.But what happens when the communities we are in make us sicker? Part of the antidote to toxic communities is finding spaces that support bumping up against our fear of being misunderstood, our fear of not being able to handle a difference of opinion, our fear of rejection. But this is a messy process and many spaces struggle with creating this kind of culture. And when our places of work and learning and worship struggle with messy realities, community feels less like community and more like a place for us to perform and check boxes.Our connections and relationships become transactional instead of a place where we grow and strengthen. And when we are in transactional spaces, we are not truly seen, and the deep change we desire doesn't happen. But Community can serve as a catalyst and container for healing and growth. My guest today is cultivating spaces that are much needed medicine to us individually and collectively. Founder, leader, and community builder, Shannon Siriano Greenwood knows the benefits of building her network with meaningful relationships over bountiful connections. Her work supports women professionals in creating meaningful connections that will support them both professionally and personally.Listen to the full episode to hear:* What Shannon’s first event taught her about burnout, work-life balance, and how we measure success* How growing up striving for external validation translated into perfectionism and burnout in Shannon’s life as an adult* How her background in the competitive world of ballet has shaped her adult relationships with women and the community she’s built with Rebelle* Why Shannon and her team are committed to creating safe spaces for their community to explore and challenge their internalized biases* How to bring curiosity and gratitude to building your network Learn more about Shannon Siriano Greenwood:* Rebelle (http://readytorebelle.com/)* Instagram: @readytorebelle (https://www.instagram.com/readytorebelle/)* Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonsiriano/)Learn more about Rebecca:* rebeccaching.com (https://www.rebeccaching.com/)* Work With Rebecca (https://www.rebeccaching.com/work-with-me)* Sign up for the weekly Unburdened Leader Email (https://view.flodesk.com/pages/5ececca2ff83f400265bbaab)Resources:*

    • 57 min
    Ep 50: Embracing the Hot Mess: A Special Anniversary Episode with Alison Cook, PhD

    Ep 50: Embracing the Hot Mess: A Special Anniversary Episode with Alison Cook, PhD

    You carry life's burdens with you every day. Some days, they might feel heavy enough to break you.But they also have the power to inspire you.

    • 57 min
    EP 49: Standing In Your Power: A Leadership Roundtable with Joon Park + Cha Barefield

    EP 49: Standing In Your Power: A Leadership Roundtable with Joon Park + Cha Barefield

    We can get so caught up in how we are seen that we miss opportunities to course correct and expand our views on the world around us. And admitting you made a mistake or that you changed your mind can feel like jumping into shark infested waters. The process of expanding our views and self-correction involves connecting meaningfully with other’s experiences and needs so we can see the world outside of our own experience.Sometimes we take in important new data that activates protective behaviors like defensiveness and control while navigating feeling disoriented and uncertain. How we move through these moments rarely looks or feels graceful. Especially because parts of us still resist the discomfort that leaves us feeling out of sorts. But when you commit to growing as a leader and as a human your work is more than an intellectual and tidy process.And it requires deepening relationships with others so you can truly understand from your heart the needs and perspectives of others. Today’s guests were willing to share hard and vulnerable stories from their lives and perspectives and what started as a conversation in DMs expanded into this roundtable discussion.Cha Barefield is a powerful speaker, and the host and creator of "The Cha Show". Cha sees the extraordinary in the ordinary and causes us to see the same. She believes that when you speak about things that matter to you, you will invariably speak about things that matter to everyone. The world needs what Cha seeks to amplify, now more than ever. Joon Park shares his incredible typewriter skills and inspiring ‘Typewriter Therapy’ on Instagram and he is also a Hospital Chaplain, Chaplain for the Homeless, 6th degree black belt, ex-atheist, skeptic, son to immigrants, and Korean-American who loves Jesus. He is also the author of The Voices We Carry: Finding Your One True Voice in a World of Clamor and Noise.Listen to the full episode to hear:* How the narrative of “reluctant leadership” has been tied to race and gender for both Cha and Joon* Why we need to broaden our narratives, whose stories we value, and whose stories we center* The difficult and exhausting trade-offs of navigating visible leadership as people of color* How expanding the narrative and acknowledging their history helps Joon and Cha stand in their power* The fundamental difference between comfort and safetyLearn more about Cha Barefield:* The Cha Show (http://thechashow.com/)* Instagram: @ChaBare (https://www.instagram.com/chabare/)Learn more about Joon Park:*

    • 1 hr 25 min
    EP 48: Showing Up & Speaking Up in the Face of Racial Injustice with Y-Vonne Hutchinson, JD, CEO + Founder of Ready Set

    EP 48: Showing Up & Speaking Up in the Face of Racial Injustice with Y-Vonne Hutchinson, JD, CEO + Founder of Ready Set

    When you choose to step into conversations about racism you risk giving up your comfort and the illusion of control on how you are seen.In essence, when you choose to speak up against injustice you are inviting discomfort.And inviting discomfort is an affront to all the ways you protect yourself from harm. Yet when you befriend your discomfort instead of letting it shut you down, you can navigate the vulnerability of potentially being misunderstood. The polarities that come up around wanting to say the right thing, but not be performative or not wanting to center yourself, but be authentic and true are real and can also shut you down.Sometimes it seems best to just stay quiet. Taking the time to pause and not just react is important, especially in our hyper-responsive world. But indefinite silence is never ok when harm is being done. Self-leadership helps you lead yourself with more confidence and clarity through the vulnerable and awkward moments. And collective efforts are always better than individual ones. You can best advocate when you have community, clarity, and a plan. Today’s guest literally wrote a book on how to talk about race to your boss at work that is practical, actionable, and really, really helpful. Y-Vonne Hutchinson is the author of How to Talk to Your Boss About Race and CEO of ReadySet (https://www.thereadyset.co/), a diversity and inclusion training firm that helps tech giants, political leaders, media outlets, and Fortune 500 companies speak more productively about racism and turn talk into action.To date, ReadySet has worked with hundreds of companies around the world to build, manage, and grow diverse teams. In a former life, prior to founding ReadySet, she worked as an international labor and human rights lawyer for nearly a decade.Listen to the full episode to hear:* The impact of performance attribution bias on people of color in the workforce* Why Y-Vonne says work, identity, and race are so intertwined in our culture* Why emphasizing unconscious bias and individual actions alone can’t create sustainable systemic change * How movement language gets co-opted and why leaders need to prepare for backlash* How identity, social location and position can impact your strategy for speaking up at workLearn more about Y-Vonne Hutchinson:* ReadySet (https://www.thereadyset.co/)* How to Talk to Your Boss About Race: Speaking Up Without Getting Shut Down* Twitter:

    • 1 hr 6 min

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4.9 out of 5
33 Ratings

33 Ratings

B Hanna, COTA/L ,

Inspiring

I can’t believe 50 episodes have gone by and that it’s been 2 years since you started your podcasts. I have learned something from every guest you have had and enjoyed learning more about your journey too. Thank you for your insightful work and touching my life in a positive way. I listen on my morning walks and always end feeling I’ve learned a valuable human connection lesson. Many blessings to you Rebecca.

themegangill ,

Each episode is deeply impactful and inspiring!

The Unburdened Leader is engaging, helpful, and makes me feel less alone in my own challenges. Each episode can be applied to anyone, anywhere seeking to move through past trauma and live a more full, vulnerable life. I appreciate how each episode touches on a different facet of the vulnerabilities of leadership as well.

Martinus’ episode hit me in so many ways. His story is incredibly powerful - from his determination to run and help others do the same, to how he resisted the urge to go back and give that doctor a piece of his mind. This episode was also a reminder that we must fight to change the narrative surrounding people in plus size bodies, work to eradicate weight stigma for humans everywhere, and pave a new way for future generations. It breaks my heart to know that so many other children experience the exact thing Martinus did in his first grade class. Growing up a young plus size girl myself, I had a similar moment of the realization that I was a fat kid. When Martinus spoke about how “other people’s perceptions of him damaged his psyche,” that hit close to home. I spent so much of my childhood trying to change my body to feel worthy, when the problem was never me or my body - the problem was (and still is) society. I appreciate hearing how Martinus is pushing back on societal standards and positively impacting humans who want to run regardless of their speed. He’s doing amazing work, and I strongly support that no person should be judged at face value.

I also love the episodes with Lindsay Padilla and Tara Newman where you touch on ADHD in women and normalize being diagnosed later on in life. I learned so much from these episodes, and I’m so grateful you’re discussing how this meshes with leadership.

Thank you, Rebecca. This podcast is vitally important to humanity!

JensieLynn ,

Excellent leadership podcast

I have followed and benefitted from Rebecca's wisdom and talents for many years, but as I've taken on more leadership roles in my own life, I have really appreciated this podcast. The guests she brings on and the insights they share have helped bring clarity to some of my own experiences and given me useful strategies for better serving my clients and the folks I get to lead.
I particularly appreciated her episode with Terces that helped me label a recent work experience as betrayal, which gave me the language I needed to help me process the experience and move forward. Her episode with Ref Rodriguez was also excellent and I so appreciate how Rebecca welcomes guests to bring their whole selves, modelling how letting ourselves be nuanced and emotional beings is an asset to our leadership and how we are able to show up in the world.

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