Aphasia Access Conversations

Aphasia Access
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Aphasia Access Conversations brings you the latest aphasia resources, tips, and a-ha moments from Life Participation professionals who deliver way more than stroke and aphasia facts. Topics include aphasia group treatment ideas, communication access strategies, plus ways to grow awareness and funds for your group aphasia therapy program. ​This podcast is produced by Aphasia Access. Search our courses, resources, and events by keywords at https://bit.ly/aphaccacademy.

  1. Jul 7

    Episode 139: Behavioral Activation with Deena Schwen Blackett

    In this episode, Lyssa Rome speaks with Deena Schwen Blackett, an assistant professor at the University of Central Florida and director of the Communication, Aphasia Recovery, and Emotion (CARE) Lab, about behavioral activation as a psychosocial intervention for people with aphasia. Deena describes what the intervention looks like in practice — from daily activity tracking to values-based goal setting across five life areas — and shares early findings on reductions in depression symptoms. The conversation also explores how behavioral activation aligns with the Life Participation Approach to Aphasia, where it fits within SLP scope of practice, and what clinicians can do to actively support the emotional well-being of the people with aphasia in their care.

  2. Jun 9

    Episode 138: When One Plus One Equals Three: A Conversation with National Aphasia Synergy

    Episode 138 When One Plus One Equals Three: A Conversation with National Aphasia Synergy               In this episode you will discover: 1.  People with aphasia hold the map. At NAS, people with aphasia don't just have a seat at the table — they built the table. Real peer leadership changes everything about how an organization thinks and acts. 2.  Recovery is about more than speech. The isolation and psychological distress that follow aphasia are just as real as the communication challenges — and just as deserving of attention and support. 3.  Peer-befriending is life participation in action. When people with aphasia support one another through shared experience, that's not a supplement to good care — it is good care. 4.  Sinergia: one plus one equals three. When survivors and professionals work as true equals, something greater emerges than either could create alone. June is National Aphasia Awareness Month, and around here, that means it's time for one of my favorite podcast traditions. For the past few years running, we've spent this month in conversation with people who know aphasia from the inside — those living it every day. Today is no exception, and this one is a conversation I've genuinely been looking forward to.   Welcome to the Aphasia Access Conversations Podcast. I'm Katie Strong from Central Michigan University, where I lead the Strong Story Lab, and I'm a member of the Aphasia Access Podcast Working Group. Aphasia Access is dedicated to transforming services and environments so people with aphasia can participate more fully in life — and today's guests are living proof of exactly what that looks like.         Today I'm speaking with two leaders from National Aphasia Synergy — known as NAS — a peer-led nonprofit founded in 2021 by people with aphasia, for people with aphasia. NAS was built on the belief that those living with aphasia are best positioned to support others on the same journey. Through peer-befriending, technology empowerment, and community building, NAS works to end the isolation that so often follows a stroke — connecting people across the country through a shared sense of what they call Sinergia: the idea that when survivors and professionals work as true equals, one plus one equals three.   Today's conversation feels especially meaningful to me. I've had the privilege of seeing Trish and Amy in action at conferences like Aphasia Access and ASHA — learning from their presentations and watching their advocacy make ripples far beyond those conference walls. As someone who researches friendship and aphasia, I've followed the peer befriending movement closely — it began in the UK, and when I heard that NAS was bringing it to the United States, led by a peer organization, I thought: this is what life participation actually looks like.   Before we get into the conversation, let me tell you a bit more about our guests.   Trish Hambridge is the President and Founder of National Aphasia Synergy. Trish has lived with aphasia since her stroke in 2008, and that experience is the foundation of everything she has built. A former project manager for AppleCare, Trish has become not only a powerful advocate but a published researcher — partnering with research teams to influence the questions being asked and the evidence being built in our field. Her co-authored work spans game-based rehabilitation design, posttraumatic growth in aphasia, and the measurement of motivation and psychological needs in aphasia rehabilitation — all published in leading journals including the American Journal of Speech-Language Pathology. She has spoken at conferences including the Aphasia Access Leadership Summit, Aphasia Access Chautauqua and ASHA, serves on the Disability Advisory Committee in Dunedin, Florida, and is a member of Voices of Hope for Aphasia. Her vision brought NAS to life, and her leadership — in the clinic, in the research literature, and in the community — continues to shape it.   Amy Walters is the Vice President of National Aphasia Synergy. Amy has lived with aphasia since her stroke in 2018 — a stroke that, in a striking twist of fate, occurred while she was attending a neurosurgical conference. A Harvard graduate with a Master of Public Health from Johns Hopkins, Amy spent 30 years as a senior leader in the medical device industry before her stroke, and she has channeled that same expertise and drive into aphasia advocacy. She has presented at neurosurgical conferences to raise awareness, participates in aphasia groups across the country, and brings a remarkable combination of professional knowledge and lived experience to everything NAS does.   So — let's get into the conversation.   Katie Strong: Trish and Amy, welcome. I'm so excited to have you both here today and learn about what's going on in National Aphasia Synergy.   Trish Hambridge: Thank you for the chance to meet.   Amy Walters: We are so pleased to be here with the Aphasia Access Community. Katie Strong: Well, we're delighted that you are sharing your time and expertise with us. I wanted to get started by asking about National Aphasia Synergy. How was it created? Just wondering if you could share the origin story of the organization and how that concept of synergy or working together defines your mission. Trish Hambridge: Long time ago, I had a stroke, major stroke. But I was the same person then as I am now. I remember sitting on the hospital patio in San Jose and Karen, my good friend from college and speech therapist was there, and she was teaching everyone about aphasia. My friends and family were so patient. I remember my Dad talking to me and say, "You are stubborn." and I said, "Thank you!" Because that choice – being subborn - changed everything and gave me the chance to get my identity back. Katie Strong: So, Trish, just to verify, you're saying your stubbornness got you where you are right now. Trish Hambridge: Yes, but yes! Katie Strong: Love it. Trish Hambridge: Sorry to say, I have issues! But going back to the beginning, I had only had five words. Even my 'yes' and 'no' were flipped. Traditional homework is not my cup of tea. Shhh! Quiet, I'm lazy! I needed a better strategy, and I found it with P2Go. It's so much more than an app. It is the tool that gave me my voice back. Katie Strong: I love that, so if I'm understanding correctly, traditional homework is not for you, and that you really needed something that was technology based, which goes back to your expertise in your life, career to be able to really help you communicate, and it was the P2Go. Trish Hambridge: Yeah, yeah, is small, is so, is easy, my opinion. Katie Strong: Well, that's what we're here for today, is your opinion. Trish Hambridge: In 2016, a move to Dunedin, Florida changed everything. I joined Voices of Hope and finally found my community. Then the pandemic hit. But it couldn't stop our connection. We moved to Zoom. I want to be honest, though: some of my friends didn't make it through that storm. Their pain is part of this journey. We build this community in their honor. Katie Strong: Oh, that's really touching, you know. It is. It's hard, so many friends don't stay in our lives for many reasons, but aphasia can really be a challenge for friends sticking around. Trish Hambridge: Yeah, and the technology is not my cup of tea. Katie Strong: Wonderful, wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. Trish Hambridge: In 2021, I stepped up. I moved from a 'Lead Pathfinder' to the Founder of National Aphasia Synergy. I reached out to Debbie Yones, the big cheese of Voices of Hope. She and the Board Director gave me wise advice to help me grow. I didn't do it alone. My sister and my sister-in-law helped me think through the logistics. They helped me build the support for the nonprofit. Because of them, my vision became a reality. Katie Strong: So, your consultation with those important people to your life really helped National Aphasia Synergy become a reality. Trish Hambridge: Yeah. Finally, I asked Amy to join the mission. She became part of the organization. Now, we are moving forward together. Katie Strong: Thanks, Trish. I love that. Amy Walters: Thanks, Trish. Nine years ago, I had my stroke at the neurosurgical conference. Ironic, right? Yeah, the conference was in Colorado Springs. I was in a medically induced coma for 10 days and diagnosed with Global Aphasia. Then I was airlifted to the Shepherd Center in Atlanta, Georgia, where I had a craniotomy and cranioplasty. On the flight I remembered thinking, "Am I in a simulator? What's happening to me?"   Katie Strong: Wow! That sounds surreal! Amy Walters: My career was in clinical affairs for a medical neurosurgical device company, so I am professionally and personally familiar with neuroplasticity. I know how crucial neuroplasticity is to our physical, mental, and emotional recovery. National Aphasia Synergy was born from a deep need for collaborative survivor-led company. Katie Strong: The advocacy you're doing is really amazing, and I'm so excited for our listeners to be able to hear more about it. Amy Walters: Thank you. When we look at the aphasia community today, we see massive gaps. Most organizations are built for us, but they aren't led by us. The 'medical way' focuses only on the speech deficit, but it leaves a gaping hole in mental health, identity, and social connection. The research is heartbreaking: 40% to 60% of stroke survivors with aphasia experience chronic depression, and in early recovery, a staggering 93% experience high levels of psychological distress. This isn't just about the survivor—46% of our family members also face depression. Our mission is to bridge those gaps. We aren't just here to 'fix' speech; we are here to empower the whole person. We call it Sinergia—the Greek word for Synergy. It means we don't work in silos. We don't have

  3. Apr 21

    Episode 137: Who Am I Now? Narrative Identity with Rianne Brinkman

    In this episode you will discover: Identity Is Shaped in Interaction — Narrative identity forms and reforms through relationships and stories shared with others — making connection a core ingredient of recovery, not a bonus Visual Methods Unlock What Words Cannot — Collage-making, photos, and art give people with aphasia a pathway into identity work that talk alone can't always reach. Identity Reconstruction Is a Long Game — People continue navigating complex, shifting identities for years after stroke. Our systems need to follow them farther into that journey, not stop too soon. Sit on Your Hands and Truly Listen — The most powerful thing you can offer is unhurried, attentive presence. Learning to wait and watch — rather than fill the silence — is a skill worth deliberately practicing. If you've ever felt like there's more to aphasia care than the therapy protocol in front of you, or wondered what identity-centered practice actually looks like in the real world, this conversation will give you both the framework and the practical insights you need. Welcome to the Aphasia Access Aphasia Conversations Podcast. I'm Katie Strong from Central Michigan University and a member of the Aphasia Access Podcast Working Group — a community dedicated to supporting better aphasia care. Rianne Brinkman is a speech-language pathologist and linguist from the Netherlands whose PhD project "Who Am I Now?" explores identity changes in people with aphasia through storytelling and creative arts-based approaches. Before her doctoral work — supported by the Dutch NWO Teacher Research Grant — she spent years as a clinician in rehabilitation and aphasia centers, and that deep clinical foundation shapes everything she brings to her research. She teaches in the Speech and Language Therapy program at Hanze University of Applied Sciences in Groningen and conducts her research at the University of Humanistic Studies in Utrecht. Today's conversation feels especially personal to me. Like Rianne, I came to doctoral work after years of established clinical practice, and my own research centers on narrative identity and aphasia through the My Story Project and the PULSE framework. So, when she sought me out at a conference in 2019, I recognized immediately that we were kindred spirits working toward the same questions from different corners of the world.   So, let's get into the conversation. Katie Strong: Well, before we dive into your work, I wanted to share something with our listeners. One of the things that drew me to this conversation is that we have a parallel story. We both came to do our PhDs after established clinical careers, and you're in the thick of that journey. I'd love to start with what made you decide to go back, and how did your clinical work shape what you wanted to pursue? Rianne Brinkman: I used to work in rehabilitation for a long time, and then I moved from one part of the Netherlands to another part, and there was not much work for me. So, I got the opportunity to help establish an aphasia center. And of course, if you look at the rehabilitation phase, that's far more deficit oriented, so that's very different than in the chronic phase, where an aphasia center comes into place. So, I really had to change my view of therapy. I had to establish a few groups on identity. I started reading on identity, on communicative participation, on how to do that in groups. So that's really where the interest came from. Katie Strong: I love hearing that. Sometimes as we go into a different phase or area of work, and it really re-shapes our thinking and how we engage with our clients or patients. Rianne Brinkman: Yeah, it does. And in those groups, I worked together a lot with creative therapists, and I learned so much from them, because then I realized that if you use narrative approaches, and you combine them with visual arts or arts therapy, that it can mean so much for somebody. They can get so many more means of expression. So, yeah, I learned a lot from that. Katie Strong: I love that! It is powerful. And I'm really looking forward to talking more about this. I was curious, you know, what the experience has been like from a clinician turned researcher, what you know, what's that actually been like for you? And has there been anything that surprised you most about the transition? Rianne Brinkman: I did not realize that much how much you yourself as a person influences the conversation with somebody with aphasia, you know that co-construction part. So that your identity aspects really influence how the conversation takes place and what somebody chooses to tell you or not. So that is really momentary, and so it's just a snapshot, really, when you do this. So, I became really aware of that. But also, your own norms and values and the way you listen and all those sorts of things. It's just a different way of doing therapy. And then you're doing it as research which is different. I think that's one thing, sometimes I'm a little bit too much the therapist, so I really have to be a researcher again, you know? So, you change between those roles.   Katie Strong: Yes, it is a shift, right? Rianne Brinkman: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Katie Strong: Yeah. And thinking about how those two roles are different or powerful, sometimes combined. Well, let's talk a little bit about the work that you're doing. And I want to acknowledge that what we're talking about today really all comes out of your doctoral journey, which is really remarkable. I thought we could first talk about your 2025 scoping review that really mapped the landscape of what we know about identity changes in aphasia, and it also laid the groundwork for everything that followed. Could you walk us through that narrative identity model that came out of the review?   Rianne Brinkman: Yeah. That was quite complex, because there's so much written about identity, and everybody defines it slightly in a different way, or uses different words. So, what we tried to do is really get a grip on that literature to see what was written on identity changes in aphasia, and what kind of theory was used. And what we saw was that everything is from a social constructionist perspective, really. But then there are many different philosophers and different authors that write about identity. So, what we tried to do was because, of course, Barbara Shadden, she's very foundational in this work. With her colleagues, she created the four domain interdisciplinary framework. So, we tried to use that in the model as one of the foundations. And then, of course, the work of Paul Ricoeur, who's a French philosopher who writes about that you only shape your identity through interaction with other people which gives meaning to the stories you share with other people. And the work of Bamberg, and he talks about dilemmatic spaces. So what it means, really, is that I think identity, you only shape in interaction, and we tried to visualize that in the model. So, there's an "I" part, and that's about you, the personal domains, and there's the "we" part, and that's about the social domains. We tried to visualize how those domains interact, including temporality, because you shape your identity in the here and now, but also through time. And then in the middle of the model, there's a head with interconnected gears, and that's where it all comes together. That's you at your identity, your narrative identity, a specific point in time. So that's the model in a nutshell. And then you've got, of course, all those personal domains, like your biography, agency and power, communicative abilities, your roles you fulfill in life. And then the social domains are, like your social situation, your cultural background, society and all of that works together, informing, shaping your identity. Katie Strong: It's powerful work, and it is complex. I appreciate the work that you led to be able to assimilate and give us this model for us to be really thinking about narrative identity in a way that takes all of those big thought leaders and helps it become more approachable to those of us that are interested in narrative identity as researchers, but also as clinicians. Rianne Brinkman: That's great. Thank you. Katie Strong: Thank you for that work. And then you have another recent paper. Congratulations, by the way! That paper just came out earlier this year in 2026 and I guess I should say to the listeners, we'll have both articles linked in the show notes, as well as some other resources that will be interesting to explore if you're into this topic. This 2026, article is really the first of its kind to look at identity in this early stage, six to eight weeks after admission to rehabilitation. So, I was hoping you could talk with us about who were these people and what were you doing together in these sessions? Rianne Brinkman: Yeah. So, it's the first session of a longitudinal study, so I'm following those people over two years. And so, there are 22 people with aphasia. Unfortunately, two of them couldn't continue as one of them, I couldn't organize the reflection session, and one of them, I just couldn't reach anyone. But the other 20 people are still in the study, which is really amazing! Katie Strong: That is really amazing! Rianne Brinkman : Yeah, that's really nice. They're all middle aged people who range in age from their 30s to their 60s until 67. They also have different severities of aphasia. Some people were still clinical inpatient, some of them already were outpatient. And then I tried to elicit their story with visual participatory methods in combination with the narrative approach. So those sessions are quite long, sometimes two and a half to three hours, so it's a lot of time. It's really nice to just sit with them and connect. During the first session I did collage making. I just took a lot of magazines with me and scissors and glue and everything, and then we just sat d

  4. Mar 24

    Treating Discourse with Jessica Obermeyer

    Interviewer info Lyssa Rome is a speech-language pathologist in the San Francisco Bay Area. She is on staff at the Aphasia Center of California, where she facilitates groups for people with aphasia and their care partners. She owns an LPAA-focused private practice and specializes in working with people with neurogenic communication disorders. She has worked in acute hospital, skilled nursing, and continuum of care settings. Prior to becoming an SLP, Lyssa was a public radio journalist, editor, and podcast producer. In this episode, Lyssa Rome interviews Jessica Obermeyer about group treatment for aphasia. Guest info Jessica Obermeyer, PhD, CCC-SLP, is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Her area of specialization is acquired adult neurogenic language disorders. Dr. Obermeyer's research interests include discourse production in aphasia, treatment efficacy, and the cognitive requirements of language production. Prior to earning her doctorate, she worked in a variety of clinical settings where she specialized in assessment and treatment of adult neurogenic populations.     Listener Take-aways In today's episode you will: ● Recognize the role of written communication in clients' daily activities, including texting, email, and online tasks. ● Adapt ARCS-W treatment components to match each client's preferred writing modality (handwriting vs. typing). ● Identify candidates with aphasia who are well-suited for discourse-level writing treatment. Lyssa Rome Welcome to the Aphasia Access Aphasia Conversations Podcast. I'm Lyssa Rome. I'm a speech language pathologist on staff at the Aphasia Center of California, and I see clients with aphasia and other neurogenic communication disorders in my LPAA-focused private practice. I'm also a member of the Aphasia Access Podcast Working Group. Aphasia Access strives to provide members with information, inspiration, and ideas that support their aphasia care through a variety of educational materials and resources. I'm today's host for an episode that will feature Dr. Jessica Obermeyer, who was selected as a 2024 Tavistock Trust for Aphasia, Distinguished Scholar, USA and Canada. Dr. Obermeyer is an assistant professor in the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro. Her area of specialization is acquired adult neurogenic language disorders. Dr Obermeyer's research interests include discourse production and aphasia treatment efficacy and the cognitive requirements of language production. Prior to earning her doctorate, she worked in a variety of clinical settings, where she specialized in assessment and treatment of adult neurogenic populations. Jessica Obermeyer, welcome to the podcast, and thanks for being here. Jessica Obermeyer Thank you. It's a pleasure. Lyssa Rome So I wanted to get started with a question we often ask, which is: How did you get into this? Was there an aha moment for you and what led you to research aphasia? Jessica Obermeyer That's a great question. I think it was more of a slow awakening and journey to realizing that this is how I wanted to spend my days. When I started studying speech language pathology, I knew I wanted to work in adult rehab with people with traumatic brain injury, stroke, and aphasia. But as an undergraduate and a masters student, I worked on a lot of research related to traumatic brain injury and cognition. But then I had some exposure to aphasia research, and as a clinician, I just loved working with people that had aphasia. I loved running aphasia groups. I started aphasia groups, and when I decided to go back for my PhD, that is what I wanted to focus on. I also had the opportunity to work in adult outpatient, so I got to see a lot of people that had aphasia and were at different points in their rehabilitation journey. And those experiences just made me want to continue and especially do research that could develop and evaluate different treatment approaches for people that had aphasia. Lyssa Rome One of the sort of through lines in your research has been discourse. And I'm curious about how you landed on that as the focus of your work, why discourse? Jessica Obermeyer It's how we talk. It was always, you know, something I was interested in. I think, as a clinician, I felt really daunted by discourse, because it is laborious, you know, it takes a lot of time to think about how you're going to analyze it. But I was always so fascinated by all the linguistic components that make up discourse as a clinician. And then I think as a researcher, I really appreciate how important it is. Everything we do in our day to day lives is often at a discourse level, and that looks so different depending on the type of discourse. So your text exchange is discourse, your emails, your conversations, the interaction with a barista. You know, every kind of functional way that we communicate is often at a discourse level. But it's so different depending on what that interaction looks like, and that's just endlessly fascinating to me as a researcher… challenging but fascinating. Lyssa Rome Challenging both to evaluate and, I guess, to some extent, to treat. One of the things that I really appreciate is that it's how we communicate in our daily lives, and so if we're thinking about life participation and sort of functional approaches to treatment, to my mind, discourse is kind of where it's at. So I'm really excited to get to talk to you more about it. So speaking of discourse, I thought we could talk about your work on ARCS. Maybe we could start by telling us a little bit about the origins and how you became involved in researching. Jessica Obermeyer Yes, I'd be happy to. I started doing research with ARCS as a doctoral student. So it's been a long time, but the origin of ARCS, or Attentive Reading with Constrained Summarization, started with Yvonne Rogalski and Lisa Edmonds, and they published the first paper, I think, in 2009, but someone should go back to check that, and it was originally for someone that had primary progressive aphasia. And then there was another paper published for two people with Wernicke's aphasia. So in the original version, it's based on constrained summarization, and constrained only in that you're giving someone guidelines for how to summarize so they have to read through a segment of text. Usually it's a current event article, but clinically, you could use pretty much any written text. And I've actually done it with someone listening as well. Typically with ARCS, you would have someone read a segment of written text and then summarize it with the constraint or guideline to be specific. So avoid words like it, stuff, thing, he, she. So use that really intentional word retrieval. That's not what we typically do. We often use non-specific words, but it's that therapeutic, like try to go for the really precise and specific word exercise that retrieval and to also stay on topic, so try not to add a tangent, or, you know, additional information that's not related to what you're reading. And then in my work, I've added an additional guideline that's just based on what that person needs. So if they're repeating a lot, then that might be part of the guideline. Often, the guideline is to try to include the essential information that you've identified already. So that's the origin of ARCS. And as a doctoral student, I really wanted to do treatment research. I became really interested in cooperative learning theory, in how people can work together in their learning, collaborate to improve learning. And when I was doing that, reading and thinking about cooperative learning, writing seemed like such an excellent tool for that, because I think one of the hard things about spoken language is that it's just gone. You say it, it's gone. It's very hard to monitor, which I'm acutely aware of right now in this recording. But with written text, you have this wonderful record of what you've produced, and that can be really helpful for thinking about language and planning, especially in an approach like ARCS or ARCS-W that emphasizes this planning, process-driven component, where you're thinking about, "What do I need to include in this discourse? What's important? What's not important? And what have I actually produced? Does that meet, you know, the guidelines I've tried to meet?" So that's how writing actually got pulled into it. And I wanted to keep the spoken language because, I don't know that I've ever met someone with aphasia who told me they didn't want to continue exercising their spoken language, but the writing was just I think, an important addition, because there are so few written discourse treatment options. And it allowed for this emphasis on monitoring and planning and some of the cognitive components of discourse that can be hard to address. Lyssa Rome And maybe you could say a little bit about what you found when you've studied ARCS-W, so the Attentive Reading and Constrained Summarization-Written. Jessica Obermeyer Well, people have improved, which is great. So the one of the things about ARCS and ARCS-W that's maybe unique when we think about aphasia treatment as a whole, is that it's not a treatment with trained items, so no items are repeated. You're working on the process of discourse production, this process of monitoring and trying to be specific, be efficient, you know. In written discourse, people have made improvements in correct information units or CIUs. So at the word level in discourse, the amount of informative and correct information that they're producing, people have made improvements at the utterance level, where they're producing more relevant utterances and more utterances that have a bas

  5. 12/09/2025

    Episode 135: From Technical Manuals to Poetry: In Conversation with Mark Harder

    This episode features Mark Harder, an individual with aphasia who has developed numerous programs to engage individuals with aphasia in returning to meaningful life activities. Mark shared his personal experience with aphasia following a stroke and heart attack, discussing his recovery journey and the role of poetry in his healing process. He described his involvement in various aphasia support initiatives, including poetry groups, conferences, and advocacy work. Mark's efforts to raise awareness and support others with aphasia have led to the creation of multiple programs and events, demonstrating his commitment to the aphasia community.

  6. 11/18/2025

    Episode 134: Inner Speech and Aphasia with Mackenzie Fama

    Lyssa Rome talks with Dr. Mackenzie Fama about the experience of inner speech for people with aphasia.

  7. 10/14/2025

    Episode 133: Diversity Beyond Race with Jose Centeno

    In this episode you will discover: Diversity Means Everyone - Race is just one piece. Consider how age, language, immigration status, religion, sexual orientation, and geography intersect to shape each person's experience with aphasia. Go Into the Community to Build Trust - Sustainable partnerships require leaving your institution and showing up consistently. Visit centers, share meals, and invest time where people gather. Trust develops gradually through authentic presence. Listen to Real-Life Struggles First - Before starting therapy protocols, hear what families actually face: shifted gender roles, children as language brokers, lack of community aphasia awareness, and disrupted family dynamics. Train Future Clinicians Differently - If you're building or revising academic programs, front-load diversity with a foundational intersectionality course in semester one, then integrate these principles across every subsequent course and clinical practicum.   If you've ever wondered how to better support multilingual families navigating aphasia, or felt uncertain about cultural considerations in your practice, this conversation will give you both the framework and the practical insights you need. Welcome to the Aphasia Access Aphasia Conversations Podcast. I'm Katie Strong, a faculty member at Central Michigan University where I lead the Strong Story Lab, and I'm a member of the Aphasia Access Podcast Working Group. Aphasia Access strives to provide members with information, inspiration, and ideas that support their aphasia care through a variety of educational materials and resources.   I'm today's host for an episode that tackles one of the most important conversations happening in our field right now - how do we truly serve the increasingly diverse communities that need aphasia care? We're featuring Dr. Jose Centeno, whose work is reshaping how we think about equity, social justice, and what it really means to expand our diversity umbrella. Dr. Centeno isn't just talking about these issues from an ivory tower - he's in the trenches, working directly with communities and training the next generation of clinicians to do better. Before we get into the conversation, let me tell you a bit more about our guest. Dr. Jose Centeno is Professor in the Speech-Language Pathology Program at Rutgers University. What makes his work unique is how he bridges the worlds of clinical practice and research, focusing on an often overlooked intersection: what happens when stroke survivors who speak multiple languages need aphasia care?   Dr. Centeno is currently exploring a critical question - what barriers do Latinx families face when caring for loved ones with post-stroke aphasia, and what actually helps them navigate daily life? His newest initiative takes this work directly into the community, where he's training students to bring brain health activities to underserved older adults in Newark's community centers.   As an ASHA Fellow and frequent international speaker, Dr. Centeno has made it his mission to ensure that aphasia research and care truly serve diverse communities. His extensive work on professional committees reflects his commitment to making the field more inclusive and culturally responsive. So let's get into the conversation.   Katie Strong: As we get started, I love hearing about how you came into doing this work, and I know when we spoke earlier you started out studying verb usage after stroke and very impairment-based sort of way of coming about things. And now you're doing such different work with that centers around equity and minoritized populations. I was hoping you could tell our listeners about the journey and what sparked that shift for you.   Jose Centeno: That's a great question. In fact, I very often start my presentations at conferences, explaining to people, explaining to the audience, how I got to where I am right now, because I did my doctoral work focused on verb morphology, because it was very interesting. It is an area that I found very, very interesting. But then I realized that the data that I collected for my doctorate, and led to different articles, was connected to social linguistics. I took several linguistics courses in the linguistics department for my doctorate, and I needed to look at the results of my doctoral work in terms of sociolinguistic theory and cognition. And that really motivated me to look at more at discourse and how the way that we talk can have an impact on that post stroke language use. So, I kept writing my papers based on my doctoral data, and I became interested in finding out how our colleagues working with adults with aphasia that are bilingual, were digesting all this literature. I thought, wait a minute. Anyway, I'm writing about theory in verb morphology, I wonder where the gaps are. What do people need? Are people reading this type of work? And I started searching the literature, and I found very little in terms of assessing strengths and limitations of clinical work with people with aphasia.   And what I found out is that our colleagues in childhood bilingualism have been doing that work. They have been doing a lot of great work trying to find out what the needs are when you work with bilingual children in educational settings. So that research served as my foundational literature to create my work. And then I adopted that to identifying where the strengths and needs working with people by new people with aphasia were by using that type of work that worked from bilingual children. And I adapted it, and I got some money to do some pilot work at the from the former school where I was. And with that money I recruited some friends that were doing research with bilingual aphasia to help me create this survey. So that led to several papers and very interesting data.   And the turning point that I always share, and I highlight was an editorial comment that I got when I when I submitted, I think, the third or fourth paper based on the survey research that I did. The assessment research. And one of the reviewers said, "you should take a look at the public health literature more in depth to explain what's going on in terms of the needs in the bilingual population with aphasia". So, I started looking at that and that opened up a huge area of interest.   Katie Strong: I love that.   Jose Centeno: Yeah, that's where I ended up, you know, from an editorial comment based on the studies of survey research. And that comment motivated me to see what the gaps were more in depth. And that was in 2015 when that paper came out. I kept working, and that data led to some special issues that I invited colleagues from different parts of the world to contribute. And then three years later, Rutgers invited me to apply for this position to start a diversity focused program at Rutgers, speech language pathology. At Rutgers I met a woman that has been my mentor in qualitative research. Pamela Rothpletz-Puglia is in nutrition, and she does qualitative, mixed methods research. So, her work combined with my interest in identifying where the needs were, led me to identify the needs in the work with people with aphasia through the caregivers using her methodology. And I'll come talk more about it, because it's related to a lot of different projects that I am pursuing right now.   Katie Strong: I love this. So, it sounds like, well, one you got a really positive experience from a reviewer, which is great news.   Jose Centeno: Well, it was! It's a good thing that you say that because when we submit articles, you get a mixed bag of reviews sometimes. But, this person was very encouraging. And some of the other reviews were not as encouraging, but this was very encouraging, and I was able to work on that article in such a way that got published and it has been cited quite a bit, and it's, I think it's the only one that has pretty much collected very in depth data in terms of this area.   Katie Strong: Yeah, well, it sounds like that really widened your lens in how you were viewing things and taking an approach to thinking about the information that you had obtained.   Jose Centeno: And it led to looking at the public health literature and actually meeting Pamela. In fact, I just saw her last week, and we met because we're collaborating on different projects. I always thank her because we met, when our Dean created an Equity Committee and she invited the two of us and somebody else to be to run that committee. And when Pamela and I talked, I said to her, "that qualitative work that you are doing can be adapted to my people with aphasia and their caregivers". And that's how we collaborated, we put a grant proposal together, we got the money, and that led to the current study.   Katie Strong: I love that, which we're going to talk about in a little bit. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I love it. Okay, well, before we get into that, you know, one of the things I was hoping you could talk about are the demographics of people living with aphasia is becoming really increasingly more diverse. And I was hoping you could talk about population trends that are driving the change or challenges and opportunities that this presents for our field.   Jose Centeno: Yeah, that is actually something that I've been very interested in after looking at the public health literature because that led to looking at the literature in cardiology, nursing, social work, psychology, in terms of diversity, particularly the census data that people in public health were using to discuss what was going on in terms of the impact of population trends in healthcare. And I realized when I started looking at those numbers that and interestingly, the Census published later. The Census was published in 2020, several years after I started digging into the public health literature. The Census published this fantastic report where they the Census Bureau, discussed how population trends were going

  8. 09/09/2025

    Episode 132: Group Treatment with Dr. Liz Hoover

    Lyssa Rome is a speech-language pathologist in the San Francisco Bay Area. She is on staff at the Aphasia Center of California, where she facilitates groups for people with aphasia and their care partners. She owns an LPAA-focused private practice and specializes in working with people with neurogenic communication disorders. She has worked in acute hospital, skilled nursing, and continuum of care settings. Prior to becoming an SLP, Lyssa was a public radio journalist, editor, and podcast producer. In this episode, Lyssa Rome interviews Liz Hoover about group treatment for aphasia.   Guest info Dr. Liz Hoover is a clinical professor of speech language and hearing sciences and the clinical director of the Aphasia Resource Center at Boston University. She holds board certification from the Academy of Neurologic Communication Disorders and Sciences, or ANCDS, and is an ASHA fellow. She was selected as a 2024 Tavistock Trust for Aphasia Distinguished Scholar, USA and Canada. Liz was a founding member of Aphasia Access and served on the board for several years. She has 30 years of experience working with people with aphasia and other communication disorders across the continuum of care. She's contributed to numerous presentations and publications, and most of her work focuses on the effectiveness of group treatment for individuals with aphasia.   Listener Take-aways In today's episode you will: Describe the evidence supporting aphasia conversation groups as an effective interventions for linguistic and psychosocial outcomes. Differentiate the potential benefits of dyads versus larger groups in relation to client goals. Identify how aphasia severity and group composition can influence treatment outcomes.   Edited transcript Lyssa Rome Welcome to the Aphasia Access Aphasia Conversations Podcast. I'm Lyssa Rome. I'm a speech language pathologist on staff at the Aphasia Center of California and I see clients with aphasia and other neurogenic communication disorders in my LPAA-focused private practice. I'm also a member of the Aphasia Access Podcast Working Group. Aphasia Access strives to provide members with information, inspiration and ideas that support their aphasia care through a variety of educational materials and resources.   I'm today's host for an episode that will feature Dr. Elizabeth Hoover, who was selected as a 2024 Tavistock Trust for Aphasia Distinguished Scholar, USA and Canada.   Liz Hoover is a clinical professor of speech language and hearing sciences and the clinical director of the Aphasia Resource Center at Boston University. She holds board certification from the Academy of Neurologic Communication Disorders and Sciences, or ANCDS, and is an ASHA fellow. Liz was a founding member of Aphasia Access and served on the board for several years. She has 30 years of experience working with people with aphasia and other communication disorders across the continuum of care. She's contributed to numerous presentations and publications, and most of her work focuses on the effectiveness of group treatment for individuals with aphasia. Liz, welcome back to the podcast.   So in 2017 you spoke with Ellen Bernstein Ellis about intensive comprehensive aphasia programs or ICAPs and inter professional practice at the Aphasia Resource Center at BU and treatment for verb production using VNest, among other topics. So this time, I thought we could focus on some of your recent research with Gayle DeDe and others on conversation group treatment.   Liz Hoover Sounds good.   Lyssa Rome All right, so my first question is how you became interested in studying group treatment?   Liz Hoover Yeah, I actually have Dr. Jan Avent to thank for my interest in groups. She was my aphasia professor when I was a graduate student doing my masters at Cal State East Bay. As you know, Cal State East Bay is home to the Aphasia Treatment Program. When I was there, it preceded ATP. But I was involved in her cooperative group treatment study, and as a graduate student, I was allowed to facilitate some of her groups in this study, and I was involved in the moderate-to-severe group. She was also incredibly generous at sharing that very early body of work for socially oriented group treatments and exposing us to the work of John Lyons and Audrey Holland. Jan also invited us to go to a conference on group treatment that was run by the Life Link group. It's out of Texas Woman's University, Delaina Walker-Batson and Jean Ford. And it just was a life changing and pivotal experience for me in recognizing how group treatment could not be just an adjunct to individual goals, but actually be the type of treatment that is beneficial for folks with aphasia. So it's been a love my entire career.   Lyssa Rome And now I know you've been studying group treatment in this randomized control trial. This was a collaborative research project, so I'm hoping you can tell us a little bit more about that project. What were your research questions? Tell us a little bit more.   Liz Hoover Yeah, so thank you. I'll just start by acknowledging that the work is funded by two NIDCD grants, and to acknowledge their generosity, and then also acknowledge Dr. Gayle DeDe, who is currently at Temple University. She is a co- main PI in this work, and of course it wouldn't have happened without her. So you know, Gayle and I have known each other for many, many years. She's a former student, doctoral student at Boston University, and by way of background, she and I were interested in working together and interested in trying to build on some evidence for group treatment. I think we drank the Kool Aid early on, as you might say.   And you know, just looking at the literature, there have been two trials on the evidence for this kind of work. And so those of us who are involved in groups, know that it's helpful for people with aphasia, our clients tell us how much they enjoy it, and they vote with their feet, right? In that they come back for more treatments. And aphasia centers have grown dramatically in the last couple of decades in the United States.   So clearly we know they work, but what we don't know is why they work. What are those essential ingredients, and how is that driving the change that we think we see? And from a personal perspective, that's important for me to understand and for us to have explained in the literature, because until we can justify it in the scientific terms, I worry it will forever be a private-pay adjunct that is only accessible to people who can pay for it, or who are lucky enough to be close enough to a center that can get them access—virtual groups aside, and the advent of that—but it's important that I think this intervention is validated to the scientific community in our field.   So we designed this trial. It's a randomized control trial to help build the research evidence for conversation, group treatment, and to also look at the critical components. This was inspired by a paper actually from Nina Simmons Mackie in 2014 and Linda Worrell. They looked at group treatment and showed that there were at least eight first-tier elements that changed the variability or on which we might modify group conversation treatment. And so, you know, if we're all doing things differently, how can we predict the change, and how can we expect outcomes?   Lyssa Rome So I was hoping you could describe this randomized, controlled trial. You know, it was collaborative, and I'm curious about what you and your collaborators had as your research questions.   Liz Hoover So our primary aims of the study were to understand if communication or conversation treatment is associated with changes in measures of communicative ability and psychosocial measures. So that's a general effectiveness question. And then to look in more deeply to see if the group size or the group composition or even the individual profile of the client with aphasia influences the expected outcome.   Because if you think about group treatment, the size of the group is not an insignificant issue, right? So a small group environment of two people has much more… it still gives you some peer support from the other individual with aphasia, but you have many opportunities for conversational turns and linguistic and communication practice and to drive the saliency of the conversation in a direction that's meaningful and useful and informative.   Whereas in a large group environment of say, six to eight people with aphasia and two clinicians, you might see much more influence in the needed social support and vicarious learning and shared lived experience and so forth, and still have some opportunity for communication and linguistic practice. So there's conflicting hypotheses there about which group environment might be better for one individual over another.   And then there's the question of, well, who's in that group with you? Does that matter? Some of the literature says that if you have somebody with a different profile of aphasia, it can set up a therapeutic benefit of the helper experience, where you can gain purpose by enabling and supporting and being a facilitator of somebody else with aphasia.   But if you're in a group environment where your peers have similar conversation goals as you, maybe your practice turns, and your ability to learn vicariously from their conversation turns is greater. So again, two conflicting theories here about what might be best. So we decided to try and manipulate these group environments and measure outcomes on several different communication measures. We selected measures that were linguistic, functional, and psychosocial.   We collected data over four years. The first two years, we enrolled people with all different kinds of profiles of aphasia. The only inclusion criteria from a communication perspective, as you needed some ability to comprehend at a sentence level, so that you could

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