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As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down.

6 DAYS AGO

A Gay Man Called to be a Priest During the AIDS Crisis

Bill Glenn is the author of I Came Here Seeking a Person. A Vital Story of Grace; One Gay Man's Spiritual Journey. In the 70s, he trained to be a Catholic priest, but left the seminary at 29. But just as he left, his priestly gifts of love and compassion would be needed to get him — and the thousands of queer people he touched — through the AIDS Crisis. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33 min
JAN 8

The American LGBTQ+ Museum’s Board Chair on the Power of Representation

Richard Burns has been a pillar of the American LGBTQ+ rights movement. He helped organize the first National March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights in 1979. Later, he became the executive director of the NYC LGBTQ Center when New York was the epicenter for AIDS. Here, he discusses his role in history and why that history must be protected and passed down to young people. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36 min
12/18/2024

The AIDS Activist that Smuggled Drugs to Save Lives

In the 80s and 90s, Derek Hodel was the executive director of the New York Buyer's Club — also known as the People with AIDS Health Group. When life saving AIDS drugs in America were too expensive or not approved yet, Derek bypassed the American healthcare system and brought them in from abroad. He reflects on his work and its impact, nearly 40 years later. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36 min
12/11/2024

Olympic Diver Greg Louganis On Being A Gay Man In Sports

Greg Louganis is often considered the greatest diver of all time. But his sports journey was intertwined with his deep desire to be loved by his parents. He relives the moment when his HIV status, sexual orientation, and diving career all collided at once: the 1988 Summer Olympics. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

39 min
12/04/2024

The Gay Children’s Book that Inspired a Culture War

Michael Willhoite wrote the 2nd most challenged book of the 1990s — a children's book called "Daddy's Roommate." The book set off a cultural and political firestorm in America. But Michael recounts how he never sought out to be political. He just wanted to write a children's book. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

27 min
11/27/2024

The Founding of GLAAD

Jewelle Gomez co-founded GLAAD, the premier queer media watchdog organization, in 1985. She realized early that media was a tool that could prevent homophobia — or perpetuate it. She recounts why GLAAD was founded and why it's still needed today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36 min
11/20/2024

Noah's Arc: The 1st Comedy to Center Black Gay Men

Patrik Ian-Polk is the creator of Noah's Arc, the first scripted TV show to center Black gay men. The show defied stereotypes and developed a cult following in the 2000s. He discusses the superheroes in his own life that served as his inspirations. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

37 min
11/13/2024

The Activist Responsible for Life Saving AIDS Drugs

Peter Staley was one of the most prominent members of the AIDS activism group ACT-UP. He is largely credited as one of the pioneers responsible for the creation of life-saving AIDS drugs. He recounts the most harrowing times of the AIDS crisis — and how he persevered. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

44 min

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Introducing: But We Loved

As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

04/01/2024

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A Truly Fantastic Podcast

6 days ago

SFFACS

As a queer man who remained deeply closeted during the early days of the AIDS crisis due to fear I was deeply moved by the show with Bill Glen (A Gay Man Called to be a Priest) this is a story every member of our community needs to hear. Jordan is producing amazing content that is providing a critical connection between generations.
Beautiful share history & insights

Jan 14

TPWNYC

Fortunate to have come across this soulful telling of our shared gay experience. I am old enough to remember a time when i truly thought i was the only gay person on earth—-and i lived in a metropolitan area. Those early years were painful and isolating. I am still recovering from that sense of isolation these many years later, but thriving nonetheless. Young people don’t appreciate how far we have come. I hope these stories provide context. Each generation has a responsibility on the shoulders of past. Translated: our Tran brothers and sisters need support. Lots of it!
Such an interesting show

11/20/2024

JPUphl

Just found this podcast and I am enjoying every minute.
Thank you!

09/02/2024

funier

Congratulations on your show. You are doing a great job and keep it up. You’re doing good and important work.

As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age. Through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, Jordan uncovers the untold stories of queer history. And in the process, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down.

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Outspoken
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iHeartPodcasts
Years Active

2024 - 2025
Episodes

34
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Clean
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But We Loved