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"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!

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    • 4.9 • 595 Ratings

"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!

    DARVO, Differentiation and Detangling Difficult Dynamics

    DARVO, Differentiation and Detangling Difficult Dynamics

    Tony delves deep into the DARVO technique—Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender—a common manipulation strategy often used by narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals to avoid accountability and shift blame. Tony explores the origins of DARVO, shares various examples, and introduces concepts like differentiation and David Schnarch's Four Points of Balance to navigate and manage emotionally abusive relationships. Learn how to identify and counter DARVO tactics and discover ways to improve emotional maturity and self-awareness in your relationships.00:00 Welcome and Introduction00:18 Understanding Acronyms02:24 Introduction to DARVO03:35 Breaking Down DARVO05:52 Recognizing and Responding to DARVO06:15 Introducing Pat and Chris09:45 Differentiation and Four Points of Balance25:48 Managing Stress and Anxiety26:11 Changing Your Relationship with Thoughts27:14 Calming Your Heart and Managing Emotions28:09 Physical Reactions to Emotions30:45 Grounded Responding in Relationships31:12 Overreacting vs. Underreacting33:08 Handling Criticism and Feedback39:43 Meaningful Endurance and Personal Growth47:02 Applying the Four Points of Balance50:50 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsAvailable NOW Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" only $25. https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course (https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course)Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchSubscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit http://tonyoverbay.com and sign up to receive updates on upcoming programs and podcasts.Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

    • 51 min
    When Life Just “Lifes” All Over You: A Tale of Resilience and Growth Through Narcissistic Relationships

    When Life Just “Lifes” All Over You: A Tale of Resilience and Growth Through Narcissistic Relationships

    Is it possible to grow while navigating a relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature person? Tony returns after a brief hiatus and answers this question as he dives into the themes of handling discomfort, setting boundaries, and personal growth. Tony discusses how life's unpredictable nature can disrupt plans, emphasizing the importance of acceptance and resilience. Tony explores the dynamics within relationships where one partner may suppress their feelings to appease the other, leading to a loss of self-identity. This episode highlights the difference between boundaries and ultimatums, underscores the importance of self-care, and encourages listeners to lean into discomfort to foster change and growth. It's a call to prioritize one’s well-being and establish healthier relationship dynamics.00:00 Welcome Back & The Importance of Consistency00:36 The Journey of Returning to Podcasting01:01 The Therapeutic Value of Sharing Real-Life Experiences01:23 Navigating Life's Unexpected Turns01:55 Embracing Acceptance and Moving Forward02:15 Understanding and Managing Big Feelings05:18 The Challenge of Communicating Our True Feelings10:16 The Impact of Family Dynamics on Emotional Development15:24 Navigating Relationships with Emotionally Immature Partners28:21 Setting Boundaries vs. Issuing Ultimatums29:57 Concluding Thoughts on Discomfort and Growth

    • 31 min
    Death By a Thousand Cuts VII - The Rise of the Emotionally Mature!

    Death By a Thousand Cuts VII - The Rise of the Emotionally Mature!

    In the 7th installment of the "Death by a Thousand Cuts" series, Tony Overbay, LMFT, presents a compelling crossover episode between The Virtual Couch and Waking Up to Narcissism. This episode delves into the complex journey of healing and empowerment for individuals who have survived relationships characterized by emotional immaturity, narcissism, and controlling behavior. Through a blend of personal narratives and expert analysis, Tony shares the nuanced and significant harm inflicted by the 'Death by a Thousand Cuts' phenomenon—a metaphor highlighting the cumulative effect of repeated emotional injuries from narcissistic and emotionally immature partners.Addressing key issues such as emotional abuse, coercive control, financial abuse, sexual abuse within the relationship, manipulation, boundaries vs. ultimatums, and the critical need for self-validation, Tony provides listeners with practical coping strategies. These strategies underscore the importance of self-reflection, seeking professional guidance, and engaging with supportive communities as vital steps in shedding the lingering effects of controlling relationships.This episode aims to reassure listeners that they are not isolated in their experiences of unhealthy relationships. It also serves as a resource for those seeking to support family members entangled in abusive dynamics, offering insight into effective ways to provide meaningful support beyond mere words of encouragement. Tony seeks to empower listeners to recognize their inherent worth and foster healthy, mature connections by advocating for relationships grounded in respect and empathy.00:00 Welcome to the Crossover Episode: Unpacking Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity00:37 Why Today's Episode Matters: Exploring 'Death by a Thousand Cuts'01:58 Moving Week and Virtual Client Opportunities03:58 Understanding Emotional Cuts and Their Impact05:58 The Challenge of Seeking Validation and Understanding09:24 Creating Supportive Spaces for Emotional Growth12:36 Diving into Real-Life Stories of Emotional Immaturity23:49 The Frustrating Dynamics of Emotional Immaturity in Relationships33:57 Navigating the Complexities of Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism34:54 The Emotional Toll of Unvalidated Feelings36:07 Navigating Emotional Safety in Relationships36:19 The Subtle Manipulations of Emotional Abuse37:00 Parenting Amidst Emotional Manipulation38:29 Understanding the Impact of Emotional Abuse Through Stories46:33 The Role of Pornography in Emotionally Immature Relationships01:00:43 Financial Control and Emotional Abuse01:07:45 Finding Healing and Empowerment

    • 1 hr 15 min
    Part 2 - From Grandiose to Vulnerable With a Touch of Emotional Immaturity - Exploring Attachment Styles

    Part 2 - From Grandiose to Vulnerable With a Touch of Emotional Immaturity - Exploring Attachment Styles

    Part 2 of Tony’s dive into how narcissism and emotional immaturity contribute to the different attachment styles that we show up with in adulthood. Continuing to read from the article “Nar...

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Transforming or Transgressing? The Thin Line Between Emotional Growth and Weaponization

    Transforming or Transgressing? The Thin Line Between Emotional Growth and Weaponization

    Tony Overbay, LMFT, discusses the misuse of self-help and philosophical principles by the narcissist and the emotionally immature. Tony uses Stoicism and the teachings of Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, and Seneca as a backdrop to show how seemingly safe topics like self-care, hobbies, and reasons to focus on the here and now can be weaponized and used as manipulation tactics by the emotionally immature and those who exhibit strong narcissistic traits and tendencies. Tony also provides examples of addressing these misinterpretations and outlines the importance of personal growth, self-reflection, and accepting one's imperfections to achieve a healthier mindset and better relationships.00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:20 The Importance of Newsletters and Updates00:39 Exploring Narcissistic Traits and Self-Help Books01:42 The Power of Self-Reflection and Emotional Maturity02:48 The Misuse of Self-Help Tools and Philosophies03:24 The Dangers of Misinterpreting Therapeutic Advice04:24 Exploring the Interactions of Narcissistic Traits with Philosophies04:36 The Role of Stoicism in Self-Improvement05:04 The Fine Line Between Self-Improvement and Weaponizing Teachings06:15 The Power of Self-Confrontation and Growth07:57 The Concept of Muse in Personal Growth08:26 The Importance of Listening and Self-Improvement14:15 The Role of Stoicism in Personal Growth25:13 Embracing Imperfections and Learning from Mistakes26:02 The Story of Epictetus and His Teachings27:23 Applying Stoic Philosophy in Real Life: Chris and Morgan's Dance Lessons28:48 The Dangers of Weaponizing Stoic Philosophy31:16 The Wisdom of Marcus Aurelius and Letting Go of Unnecessary Opinions39:35 Applying Marcus Aurelius' Advice in Relationships: Jordan and Alex's Story41:58 Understanding and Navigating Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism44:55 Final Thoughts and Encouragement for Personal GrowthFind all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy,

    • 46 min
    From Grandiose to Vulnerable With a Touch of Emotional Immaturity - Exploring Attachment Styles Pt1 of 2

    From Grandiose to Vulnerable With a Touch of Emotional Immaturity - Exploring Attachment Styles Pt1 of 2

    Tony zooms in on emotional immaturity, grandiose and vulnerable narcissism, and how they affect relationships. He illustrates these concepts with hypothetical scenarios and emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between healthy ego and pathological defensive narcissism. He also briefly highlights how developing a healthy ego can contribute to personal growth and better relationships. Part two of this episode will dig deeper into the origin stories of narcissistic personality disorder and further explore the different attachment styles.00:00 Introduction and Welcome to the Show00:21 Understanding Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism00:43 Exploring Attachment Styles and Narcissism01:41 Real-Life Scenarios: Planning a Weekend Getaway03:20 The Impact of Narcissism on Relationships08:39 Introduction to Narcissism and Healthy Ego12:28 Real-Life Scenarios: The Stay-at-Home Mom and the Emotionally Immature Husband17:28 Healthy Ego vs Pathological Defensive Narcissism22:16 Understanding the Healthy Ego22:43 Pathological Defensive Narcissism23:37 Personal Journey: From Software Marketing to Therapy24:10 Finding Purpose and Building a Healthy Ego25:40 Embracing Criticism and Personal Growth27:06 The Role of Relationships in Personal Development27:34 Reflecting on Past Experiences and Growth30:44 Understanding Narcissism: Vulnerable and Grandiose32:11 The Impact of Narcissism on Relationships35:00 Differentiating Between Vulnerable Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity44:31 Understanding the Origins of Narcissistic Personality Disorder44:52 Closing Remarks and Preview of Part TwoAvailable NOW Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" only $25. https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course (https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course)Find all the latest links to podcasts, courses, Tony's newsletter, and more at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAnd follow Tony on the Virtual Couch YouTube channel for a sneak preview of his upcoming podcast "Murder on the Couch," where True Crime meets therapy, co-hosted with his daughter Sydney. You can watch a pre-release clip here https://youtu.be/-RkRq8SrQy0Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App.

    • 46 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
595 Ratings

595 Ratings

New mom 33 ,

Life Changing

This podcast is helping me so much. I have recently realized that I have been in toxic relationships my whole life and this podcast and other materials have helped me to discover WHY. Something I have been wondering my whole life! I listen to this podcast when I feel myself getting back into unhealthy thinking patterns.

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Emotional whiplash

The emotional whiplash episode was so validating. It really hit home.

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This podcast has changed my life for the better

Listening to this podcast has opened up my eyes to the narcissists in my family. It has been like a guidebook & helped me learn. Learn how to communicate with them & how to avoid confrontation. I don’t take a lot of things as personally as I used to.

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