Since the release of his book, The Mold Medic, and with the continuing success of HomeCleanse, formally known as, All American Restoration, Michael Rubino continues to feature as a guest on podcasts looking to take a deeper dive into mold discussions. In our Mold Talks, Michael Rubino sits down for one-on-one conversations with people who are dealing with or have overcome toxic mold exposure, leading doctors, and experts. With these discussions, we strive to empower those who could be facing similar situations. Experiencing health issues you can’t seem to find a diagnosis for can leave you feeling hopeless and alone. How do you figure out what’s causing your symptoms and how do you fix them once you finally do? Mold Talks connects people who have experienced the challenges of mold exposure with other people who have faced or are facing similar problems. By discussing our different experiences, we create a better understanding of mold exposure. Once we know what’s happening, we can start a plan to do something about it. For more information, follow me @themoldmedic on Instagram and check out www.themoldmedic.com and www.homecleanse.com
Mold Talks Heroes #53 - Harnessing the Health Benefits of Coffee, Interview with Andrew Salisbury of Purity Coffee
Today’s Mold Talks Heroes guest is Andrew Salisbury, founder of companies including Purity Coffee, CEO, and awareness advocate. After his wife began experiencing chronic health issues, they eventually discovered that mold exposure was triggering her body to sound the alarm that something wasn’t quite right. During their process of eliminating her exposure and getting her body back on track, Andrew stumbled into the world of coffee.
Initially, he believed that coffee, in general, was something that his wife should avoid to help her better heal after her mold exposure. After being tasked with providing serious proof before she gave up her bean water, he discovered that this caffeinated beverage could be beneficial to health if the brand followed certain protocols for their coffee. One such bad thing that he discovered in unhealthy coffee was mold and mycotoxins.
Through extensive research, Andrew and a team he established developed a signature process to increase the health benefits of coffee and decrease its side effects like caffeine jitters and gastric distress. Now they’re focusing on continuing to provide healthy coffee to individuals around the world and pushing the needle forward on changing the industry as a whole.
In this episode:
0:45: Andrew describes how he became aware of mold and its impact on health. His wife began developing health issues in 2012, and they dove into figuring out what was causing her to feel unwell. One of the issues that came up was her coffee consumption.
2:50: Andrew details the research he found on how coffee can be both good and bad for you. "It’s about the presence of good things and the absence of bad things."
5:00: Andrew explains his response to all the answers he uncovered about coffee and the importance of ensuring that drinkers get the benefits of this caffeinated beverage without dealing with issues like pesticides and mold. Working with coffee experts, including Dr. Adriana Farah, he developed a protocol on what to look for when deciding which coffee varieties were safe for consumption. From there, Andrew began the long journey of using this information to create a safe brand.
6:50: Andrew lists the issues he went through while trying to find coffee that actually fit the brief of being healthy, including a type of coffee fraud.
8:50: Andrew explains how mold can be introduced into coffee in the first place. There are a few routes, including picking and storing coffee beans.
12:45: Andrew describes the future steps he’s taking now that he knows everything he knows about what it takes to make a healthy coffee. "We’re trying to create best practices for what we believe is a new segment of coffee and health."
14:30: Andrew details why pesticides are used and the farmers he’s found that work with nature to find alternative measures to protect their crops.
18:45: Andrew explains what future steps the coffee industry at large should be taking, better testing methods that should be employed, and what consumers should be considering when purchasing. "Every consumer should be demanding good, clean coffee."
24:00: Andrew describes the difficulties he and his wife faced while trying to deal with the mold that was causing her exposure and the need for change that he’s seen.
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Mold Talks Heroes #52 - Listening to Our Body’s Clues, Interview with Jessica Rauscher
Today’s Mold Talks Heroes guest is Jessica Rauscher, a financial advisor, exposure survivor, and awareness advocate. Jessica shares her unique story of discovering that mold exposure was affecting both her and her husband’s lives and the impact this awareness has had. Unwilling to accept that her husband would be forced to live with and manage Sarcoidosis, she began to investigate what could be the root cause of his condition.
Fast-forward through an intensive research phase, and she finally stumbled upon what she thought could be an underlying cause: mold. After intensive testing, she finally had an answer. Both she and her husband were suffering from mold toxicity.
From there, all the puzzle pieces began clicking together as to why they were experiencing a list of random symptoms that affected their daily lives. Like many individuals, they normalized these reactions, and it wasn’t until the positive test results that they understood that those were their bodies' way of saying something was wrong. Now they’re working towards healing and using their awareness to ensure their indoor environments are safe.
In this episode:
0:30: Jessica details how her journey with mold began. After her husband was diagnosed with Sarcoidosis, she took a deep dive into trying to determine the root cause. "If it wasn’t for his diagnosis, I probably never would have known we had mold toxicity."
1:30: Jessica explains how they determined mold toxicity was the problem and the tests they underwent to find answers. She also hypothesizes where she thinks their exposure occurred throughout their lives. "We still don’t fully know where it came from."
3:45: Jessica describes the steps she and her husband take to assess if there’s a problem where they’re staying while they’re traveling for work. "It is challenging because my husband’s employer pays for us to live, so we don’t have much of a say in where we go."
7:00: Jessica shares what symptoms she and her husband experienced, ranging from chronic fatigue, brain fog, dry mouth, and anemia. Her symptoms have become so debilitating that they've started affecting her job and daily life. "Both of us had completely different symptoms, which I found interesting."
12:30: Jessica describes how she and her husband are dealing with the mold in their bodies and the steps they’re taking to heal. While she started her personalized detox protocol, her husband hasn’t decided to jump into one quite yet. "My husband is more on the western medicine side of things, whereas I’m on the functional medicine side."
18:00: Jessica shares what some of their future plans are now that she knows about mold and the impact it has had and can have on their health. "I know when we start the homebuyer process, our realtor is going to have to have grace with us because I’m going to be testing every home."
22:45: Jessica shares what she would tell her younger, unaware self now that she’s gotten answers to her ongoing health issues and is conscious of the impact mold can have on the body. "A lot of times we fight the symptoms that our bodies show us and try to medicate those symptoms instead of realizing that it’s our bodies sending us clues…"
24:00: Jessica gives one piece of advice for anyone else who may be suffering from mold exposure.
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Mold Talks Heroes #51 - Bridging the Gap Between Health and Home, Interview with Andy Pace
Today’s Mold Talks guest is Andy Pace, author, founder, advocate, and health expert. During this episode, Andy shares his wealth of knowledge after spending decades in the home health industry. From construction practices to common errors, he touches on a wide range of topics that can be used to create a safer and healthier indoor environment.
Andy Pace is a nationally recognized expert on green and healthy building products. As founder of the oldest healthy building supply company in the United States, Andrew has become one of the single most helpful and educational experts dealing with the day-to-day concerns of those individuals who suffer from allergies, asthma, and chemical sensitivities. As the leading expert on the topic of Human Health vs Environmental Health, Andrew launched a new green building product rating system called Degree of Green, which is being used by consumers to eliminate the confusion within the green building realm and to help guide consumers to what they truly need.
Andrew has lent his expertise in the field of technical product knowledge to the National Healthy Homes Conference, Paint and Decorating Contractors Association, the Construction Specifications Institute, and the National Hardware Manufacturers Association, as well as numerous regional conferences and presentations.
In today’s episode:
0:30: Andy explains who he is and what he does. After seeing individuals get sick after being exposed to paints and coatings, he created a company that could supply non-toxic options for sensitive individuals. At first, his company targeted commercial spaces, but after noticing a lack of interest, he realized that homeowners would be more inclined to use their products to create a safe indoor space.
5:15: Andy details his thoughts on the reluctance of commercial spaces to use non-toxic paint. “In their eyes, it increases cost, decreases aesthetics, and increases the stress factor of the construction team. None of this is true, of course.”
6:45: Andy describes the patterns he’s seen in government regulations regarding air quality and pollutants such as VOCs. “Let’s not wait for what they tell us to do. Let's do what makes sense.”
11:30: Andy lists current building and construction practices he has seen that are helping create toxic indoor environments. One of his company's goals is to figure out ways to practice safer building strategies to avoid future issues like mold growth.
17:15: Andy explains the importance of reducing moisture in a home during certain construction phases to reduce the opportunity for contaminants like mold to grow. “I don't understand how they can say, ‘Don’t worry, it will dry out,’ when it won't.”
22:20: Andy describes his client's current situation and the indoor mold growth they’re battling due to structural issues. The client, Ashley, shares her story further on Mold Talks Heroes.
30:00: Andy explains the importance of testing a home to determine what types of contaminants may be present. "I’m a big believer in test results and understanding that the results are in the hands of whoever is conducting the tests and reading them."
33:30: Andy details other contaminants besides mold that he’s seen in homes and the steps he takes to assist these people as they work to create a healthier environment. “90% of the chemical off-gassing that will occur in building materials comes from the things you see and touch on a daily basis in the house.”
40:00: Andy describes the expectations individuals should have regarding how long it will take for chemical emissions like formaldehyde to continue off-gassing into an environment. He also goes through steps we can take to avoid this situation in our homes.
Mold Talks Heroes #50 - Living Underwater With an Anchor, Interview with Ashley Brockinton
Today’s Mold Talks Heroes guest is Ashley Brockinton, a mother of five, mold survivor, and awareness advocate. Ashley shares her story of how intense mold exposure impacted her family’s lives, from anxiety and chronic fatigue to intense PANS/PANDAS symptoms. After five years of suffering, they were barely getting by day-to-day.
In this episode:
1:00: Ashley explains how she began realizing that mold was an issue in her life. As a mother of five, one of her children began developing a series of symptoms related to PANS/PANDAS and they dove into testing to determine what was exacerbating his condition.
3:00: Ashley details a failed inspection she initially had done in her home, which only used an air inspection. As a result, her child continued to suffer from PANS/PANDAS. “That false sense of security cost us two years of happiness and health.”
5:30: Ashley describes how one sign of mold that she missed at the time was a huge amount of dust.
9:00: Ashley explains how dealing with the fallout of mold exposure and her sick children led to her husband taking time off work to help her deal with the family. After seeing how intense the issues were, he began pushing to figure out what was wrong, which led to their discovery of mold.
11:15: Ashley details how she and her family went to a hotel, and she immediately ordered an ERMI. The results of the test showed high levels of multiple species of mold.
12:45: Ashley explains how mold exposure affects the brain and causes inflammation, which exacerbated her child’s PANS/PANDAS. She goes through several symptoms her child experienced and the struggles they faced. She also lists a few symptoms she and the rest of her family experienced. “Mold is very sneaky, and it’s very slow.
20:00: Ashley describes her experience with remediation and the struggles she’s faced with her insurance company not paying for the process. However, they knew that it was worth the work because they wanted to heal, they didn’t want another family to suffer, and knew they could potentially move into a different house with a contamination problem.
25:30: Ashley goes through how her family is healing and the detox processes underway.
30:00: Ashley describes the cost and amount of loss they faced, but she’s choosing to focus on the positives. “If you can’t find positives in your health, look elsewhere and find something… I wouldn’t have known the quality of people around me if I never experienced this loss.”
39:30: Ashley reveals how she later found out that the home they bought was a sight unseen foreclosure, which she believed had water damage that was handled improperly. That’s why she’s a huge advocate of having a new home tested before moving in and properly handling any water damage.
46:45: Ashley explains the lack of compassion and resources out there regarding indoor mold growth.
51:15: Ashley details her current feelings on mold and what her experience has taught her. “I’m not afraid of mold anymore because knowledge is power. Now I’m afraid for other people.”
53:15: Ashley shares advice with others going through a similar situation with mold that she wishes she had at the beginning of her journey. “Hire people that are informed on the health aspects of this.”
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Mold Talks Heroes #49 - The Path of Mold, Interview with Laura Knight
Today’s Mold Talks Heroes guest is Laura Knight, a parenting educator, author, mom of two, and mold survivor. During the episode, Laura explains how mold exposure impacted her children and herself and how she came to realize that this fungus was the root cause of their chronic health issues. While she never would have expected their home to be struggling with a mold issue, it turned out to be highly contaminated and had been for years.
Over a year later, their home has now been remediated, and they are all working towards detoxing. She’s now using all of her knowledge and experience to help others who are suffering through similar experiences.
As a parenting educator, she helps parents bring calm into their homes and quell the chaos with practical, easy-to-use parenting tools that are effective and yield lasting results. But her mission as a parenting educator doesn't stop there: she wants to raise awareness and provide support for major issues and problems that many people are unaware of, such as mold toxicity.
In this episode:
0:30: Laura explains how she was impacted by mold and the effect it had on her young child. At first, doctors thought it was PANS, but Laura felt this wasn’t the right answer. “I can kind of chuckle now because we’re passed it now, but the truth is that it was traumatizing.”
2:30: Laura details how she and her family were tested for mold, leading to them testing their home. “It didn’t smell. It wasn’t what you think of when you picture a moldy home. There was nothing that looked wrong with our house at all.
3:45: Laura describes her first thoughts when the functional medicine doctor first suggested that mold might be the underlying cause of her child’s health conditions.
8:15: Laura goes through the remediation process and the extensive amount of decontamination that was required. “Our house required over a year’s worth of remediation.”
10:30: Laura details how quickly her child recovered after moving out of the toxic environment and the detoxing process they adhered to. She also explains how she and other members of the family recovered and the processes they followed. “Mold is tricky because it needs to bind to something.”
16:15: Laura explains how she practices mindfulness to help get through traumatic events like mold toxicity and how she uses her knowledge to help others going through similar situations.
18:15: Laura details how situations like mold exposure can impact parenting and the effect it can have on a child’s mental state. "I always try to answer children's questions as age-appropriately as possible while also sticking to the facts as much as possible... giving them hope and light at the end of the tunnel."
22:30: Laura describes the resources she’s created for others to help with parenting techniques and potential contamination situations in their home. “The website is a home for tools and resources that I wish I would have known then, but I know now and can share.”
26:00: Laura explains how difficult she found it to be to find proper testing to help analyze a home before moving into a new space.
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Mold Talks Heroes #48 - Educating To Advocate, Interview with Alexis Manning
Today’s Mold Talks Heroes guest is Alexis Manning, an exposure survivor, awareness advocate, and Diagnostic Practitioner in training. Alexis shares her story of being exposed to mold in a variety of ways throughout her entire life, from childhood all the way through adulthood. It wasn’t until she began to experience overwhelming chronic symptoms that she began to realize something wasn’t quite right.
Like many other individuals suffering through exposure, it took some time and multiple doctors before the topic of mold came on her radar. Luckily, she read a book that introduced her to Neil Nathan, who suggested that she was suffering from mold exposure.
As an overly-sensitive individual, it took over two years of retraining her lymphatic system before she was able to begin detox protocols. Thankfully, she’s now cruising along her healing journey and pushing to get back to feeling like herself. While the journey may have been long, the ability to get back to her normal life made the struggles worth it.
Now, Alexis is dedicated to proactively working to maintain a healthy home environment. She’s also committed to helping others who are suffering from similar experiences and bringing greater awareness to this topic. Creating more education about this topic will help it become more accepted and understood throughout society as a whole.
Reach out to Alexis at:
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