106 episodes

Welcome to the Back Pain Podcast with Rob and Dave!

We are researching the facts about back pain and bringing them to you in easy to understand format.

We are two Chiropractors who spend every day looking after people with back pain. It has become our mission to talk to the best in the business to get the facts that you need to hear. We interview everyone from surgeons, GPs, Physios, Chiropractors, consultants and more so that we can get you the answers to your questions, as well as actionable tips you can take away from each episode to start feeling better/regain your health/get back to life...

The Back Pain Podcast Rob Beaven & Dave Elliott

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.6 • 19 Ratings

Welcome to the Back Pain Podcast with Rob and Dave!

We are researching the facts about back pain and bringing them to you in easy to understand format.

We are two Chiropractors who spend every day looking after people with back pain. It has become our mission to talk to the best in the business to get the facts that you need to hear. We interview everyone from surgeons, GPs, Physios, Chiropractors, consultants and more so that we can get you the answers to your questions, as well as actionable tips you can take away from each episode to start feeling better/regain your health/get back to life...

    10 Years of Treating Lower Back Pain – How Our Practices Have Changed

    10 Years of Treating Lower Back Pain – How Our Practices Have Changed

    Rob and Dave are both seeing patients every day in their clinics and in this episode they take a look at how things have changed over the last 10 years

    They share the learning that has changed how they work with their patients and discuss the vital importance of movement and how evolving to work with patients as someone who is supporting that individual’s journey to recovery, not the hero clinician builds positive and productive relationships  

    Listen in to hear Rob and Dave reflect on how their practice has evolved and why it’s always important to stay on top of new developments if you want to be a great clinician



    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    It’s important to take a considered approach and look at emerging clinical research and trends. It's updating, evolving, and staying on top of it
    Worry and anxiety about your posture is only going to potentially exacerbate your back pain
    It’s not the specific exercises that make a difference it’s about keeping the movement going
    We start with the basics of good quality movement and then fine tune
    Some movement is important it doesn’t have to be a specific granular program
    Conversations in the clinic have changed from ‘I’m the therapist here to save you’
    The clinician is no longer the hero fixing you, the patient is now the hero with the clinic providing a helping hand
    It’s not about waiting for someone else to do it for you, it’s about taking responsibility for yourself and your recovery supported by the clinician
    You will have a much better long-term relationship if you are happy to give the praise away to the patient
    Having difficult conversations is a skill that needs to be developed
    Talking to patients about their fears is a crucial element in building a relationship and understanding the patient



    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘We can’t be blinkered we need to be looking for the newest research and turning points in the science

    ‘When they are as knowledgeable as possible that’s when the magic happens’

    ‘I understand now the power of better movement and communication’



    RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE

    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-is-cauda-equina-syndrome-rob-tyer/id1511515312?i=1000506119396

    https://www.cpdo.net/Lederman_The_fall_of_the_postural-structural-biomechanical_model.pdf



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    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliott

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com   if you have any questions for him.

    -Instagram 



    Rob Beaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.

    -Instagram

    -Twitter



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    Twitter

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    Support the show: https://thebackpainpodcast.com

    • 34 min
    Foam Rollers, Kinesio Tape and Acute VS Chronic

    Foam Rollers, Kinesio Tape and Acute VS Chronic

    Rob and Dave are looking at some of the most frequently asked questions from the communities they work with and in this episode share great content in answer to a question on the difference between chronic and acute

    They also discuss what Kinesio tape and foam rolling actually do and what part of the routine where  Kinesio tape and foam rollers  are used is really important, listen in and hear the answers

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    Acute and chronic are used to refer to the time frame, the amount of time you have had the pain
    Chronic refers to pain for over 3 months anything under that is described as acute
    The skill of any practitioner is going from medical language to patient language
    Part of our journey as healthcare practitioners is understanding the impact of the language we use
    Tape changes the sensation from a painful area to a non-painful one giving your brain something else to focus on
    There are lots of claims about what foam rollers can do but they are in reality a way to self-massage
    The action of getting up and moving to complete physical actions is what’s important
    Warming up is a vital part of the exercise you are
    Walking increases blood flow far more than rolling around on a Victorian torture device

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘It’s elasticated tape at the end of the day, it doesn’t do anything magical

    ‘I will warm up for the session doing squats, I won’t spend twenty minutes flapping around on a foam roller and getting into weird positions’

    ‘Never do anything that actively causes pain’

     

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    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliott

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com   if you have any questions for him.

    -Instagram 

     

    Rob Beaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.

    -Instagram

    -Twitter

     

    SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS

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    Twitter

    Facebook

     

    CONTACT US

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com    

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • 31 min
    Physios Are People Too – What to Do When My Physio Doesn’t Know What’s Wrong – Martin Christensen

    Physios Are People Too – What to Do When My Physio Doesn’t Know What’s Wrong – Martin Christensen

    Rob and Dave talk with Martin Christensen, a physiotherapist who joins them from Norway

    Martin has gained a huge following for his Friday Physio Confessions and in this episode talks about the importance of building relationships and discusses why it’s vital that patients understand that physios are human and like all humans will make mistakes. If you want to know what a good clinician and patient relationship can be like, listen in and find out more

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    A good healthcare professional makes the experience of the time matter more
    A patient should feel listened to and that their concerns are taken seriously
    There needs to be a rapport between the patient and the healthcare professional
    The healthcare professional and patient need to communicate effectively and honestly about what the goals are
    Asking the right questions is a crucial element in building rapport
    A great practitioner can bridge the gap and build rapport with any patient, making the patient feel comfortable by adapting to them and meeting them on their individual level
    We need to acknowledge that professionals are not machines but human
    Because practitioners are human, like all humans they will make mistakes
    Being authentic and being honest is about sometimes saying we need to wait and see
    Building a relationship with a patient means it’s possible to say when you make a mistake

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘It’s the dynamics of the relationship between two people, getting along and finding out what works’

    ‘A good healthcare professional is someone who treats you like a person’

     

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    RESOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE

    Friday Physio Confessions - @Martin_nekkolai

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliott

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com   if you have any questions for him.

    -Instagram 

     

    Rob Beaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.

    -Instagram

    -Twitter

     

    SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS

    Instagram

    Twitter

    Facebook

     

    CONTACT US

    hello@thebackpainpodcast.com    

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Support the show: https://thebackpainpodcast.com

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    • 39 min
    Annina Schmid – Radiculopathy, The Sensory Exam and What the Results Mean

    Annina Schmid – Radiculopathy, The Sensory Exam and What the Results Mean

    Dave and Rob are joined by Adam Dobson regular on the podcast and Annina Schmid, physiotherapist and neuroscience researcher who leads the Neuromusculoskeletal Health and Science Lab at the University of Oxford.

    They discuss in detail radiculopathy, what it is and how it is diagnosed. With the neurological examination a key clinical diagnosis this is a great opportunity to hear about how Annina effectively uses sensory examination and what the results mean. Learn about radiculopathy and the sensory exam with great content in this informative episode

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS
    Nerve related pain is usually a radiating pain, not a pain that can be pinpointed to one spot
    Always compare left and right  talking to the patient about how the affected side feels compared to the other side
    We need to establish a normative area, you cannot just compare left and right because you may miss a sensory deficit
    Test sensation using something neutral like tissue or cotton wool
    The key to neurological examination is understanding single items in isolation have no relevant value it's putting together the pieces
    You have to make the pieces fit together to understand the picture
    Studies use the reference testing of MRI imaging or inter surgical findings which don’t tell us anything about the loss of function, the definition of radiculopathy
    Radiculopathy is a clinical diagnosis that includes the neurological examination
    The reference standard should be the clinical diagnosis because that’s what radiculopathy is
    For a nerve to be affected it doesn’t need something to be directly encroaching or deforming it
    We are imaging macro structure but a nerve can be affected on the inside so we should be looking further are the inside of the nerve
    Severe motor deficit or progressive motor deficit will be a referral
    We do not need to be specialists but we do need an awareness of what can masquerade as radiculopathy and refer to the right professional

     

    BEST MOMENTS

    ‘If the patient has  lower back pain and it radiates into the buttock it’s enough for me to do an examination’

    ‘With radiculopathy, the reference standard should be the neurological examination’

     ‘If there is a pain and it radiates this would trigger a neurological examination’

     

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    RESOURCES FOR THIS EPISODE

    Annina Twitter https://twitter.com/AnninaBSchmid

    Annina Website http://www.neuro-research.ch/

     

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Dave Elliott

    Dave is the owner of Advanced Chiropractic, a chain of Chiropractic and massage therapy clinics in Essex, UK. Dave still sees patients during the week but has been working hard to talk to as many experts in the field of back pain as possible to help distil all the information and bring it to you in this awesome podcast. You can find Dave on any of the Advanced Chiropractic social media platforms, or you can contact him at hello@thebackpainpodcast.com   if you have any questions for him.

    -Instagram 

     

    Rob Beaven

    Rob owns and runs a multidisciplinary clinic, The Dyer St Clinic in Cirencester Gloucestershire. His team of Chiropractors, Physiotherapists, Osteopaths, Doctors, and podiatrists all collaborate on thousands of back pain patients every year. Alongside Dave, he has worked hard to bring to the table experts across all industries to give you the low down on back pain, with steps you can implement today to start feeling better.

    -Instagram

    -Twitter

     

    SOCIAL MEDIA LINKS

    Instagram

    Tw

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Gardening and Back Pain – The Great British Problem?

    Gardening and Back Pain – The Great British Problem?

    Dave is going solo and shares the advice and reminders that everyone venturing back out into the garden really needs to hear because it’s this time of the year that many clinicians are seeing a very specific patient – the gardener There's lots you can do from strength work throughout the year through to changing it up with different tasks and knowing when to stop As the sun starts  to shine listening to this is a great way to get back into the garden the best way- without back pain

    • 14 min
    #101 - The Knowlege Exchange Podcast - Explaining Misconceptions & What is High Value Care. Rob's Guest Appearance

    #101 - The Knowlege Exchange Podcast - Explaining Misconceptions & What is High Value Care. Rob's Guest Appearance

    Rob is a guest on the Knowledge Exchange podcast talking about misconnections and what good quality care looks like He discusses the power of the words and language used by practitioners and explains why he is an advocate for clear and simple communication with patients. Practitioners need to understand where patients are coming from and acknowledge their beliefs working with them to support them in achieving their goals. Being a high-level communicator and sharing strengths is crucial for success for any practitioner who is working with patients

    • 54 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
19 Ratings

19 Ratings

Dgs6913 ,

Helpful!

Rob and Dave put forth podcasts that are full of helpful information. I’ve found several episodes helpful to me as I deal with chronic back pain. Thank you, Rob and Dave!

Iz S ,

Fantastic Podcast!!!

As a Physiotherapist—I love this Podcast!

Arbbyluvgigi ,

Excellent podcast.

Really wonderful presentation of information surrounding back pain. Helpful no matter what level your current understanding is.

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