The Way Out | A Sobriety and Recovery Podcast

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The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

  1. Borrow My Brain: An Unexpected Path with John Magnuson | Episode 492

    1D AGO

    Borrow My Brain: An Unexpected Path with John Magnuson | Episode 492

    Contact John: John@relevantrecovery.org Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: BreathingUnder Water: Spirituality And The Twelve Steps - https://a.co/d/04c0D2qj Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Trunk to Tail" Resources:  https://www.relevantrecovery.org/ https://theretreat.org/programs/ https://www.hazelden.org/store/welcome https://www.marrch.org/ Media story on Recovery Ranch: https://thephoenixspirit.com/2024/09/founder-envisions-minnesotas-first-recovery-ranch/ https://www.relevantrecovery.org/recovery-ranch/ Song that symbolizes recovery: Pentatonix - AmazingGrace (My Chains Are Gone)  - https://youtu.be/Obp-9BEZe1c?si=xe_STqS_S9m5YvO8   Takeaways John Magnuson shares his journey of recovery from alcoholaddiction. Serving the recovery community starts with maintainingpersonal sobriety. Recovery means finding love, happiness, and a sense ofpurpose. Childhood experiences shaped John's understanding ofaddiction. Alcohol was a significant part of John's early life and ledto serious consequences. Navigating early adulthood involved balancing politicalaspirations and addiction. A turning point in John's life led to a deeper understandingof spirituality in recovery. Failure in business prompted a reevaluation of prioritiesand personal growth. Community support is crucial in the recovery process. Embracing change and new directions can lead to unexpectedopportunities. Personalizing recovery pathways is crucial for individualsuccess. Authenticity in communication fosters connection andunderstanding. Humility allows for growth and acceptance in recovery. Peer support has evolved but still needs to adapt to currentneeds. Coaching families can lead to profound transformations inrecovery. Creating a supportive environment is essential for healing. Daily routines play a significant role in sustainablerecovery. Literature can provide valuable insights and guidance inrecovery. Music serves as a powerful tool for healing and expression. Trusting the process and remaining open to change is vital.   Summary In this conversation, John Magnuson shares his journey ofrecovery from alcohol addiction, emphasizing the importance of serving therecovery community, the evolution of his understanding of recovery, and therole of spirituality in his life. He reflects on his childhood, earlyexperiences with alcohol, and the turning points that led him to embrace a newdirection in life. John discusses the significance of community support, thelessons learned from failure, and the power of personal stories in recovery. Healso addresses the complexities of privilege and the language used in therecovery community, ultimately highlighting the transformative power ofrecovery and personal growth. In this conversation, John Magnuson shares hisinsights on the importance of personalizing recovery pathways, the role ofauthenticity and humility in communication, and the evolution of peer support.He discusses his journey into coaching and the vision behind Relevant Recovery,emphasizing the significance of creating a supportive environment for familiesin recovery. John also highlights the healing power of music and the importanceof daily routines in maintaining recovery. His experiences reflect a deepunderstanding of the spiritual aspects of recovery and the need for communitysupport. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠)licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 53m
  2. Neurofeedback and Hope: A New Approach to Recovery Dana Hargus | Episode 491

    MAR 2

    Neurofeedback and Hope: A New Approach to Recovery Dana Hargus | Episode 491

    Contact Dana: contact@restoreofada.com Book recommendation: The Bible Best Advice: "Live every day until the day youdie." Song that symbolizes recovery: Amazing Grace Resources: Restore of Ada - https://restoreofada.com/ Biofeedback and Counseling, Inc - https://www.biofeedbackada.com/   In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Jason welcomesDana Hargus, a seasoned mental health therapist with over 25 years ofexperience. Dana shares her journey into the recovery community, emphasizingher role in helping individuals who have recently completed rehab. Shediscusses the importance of supporting clients as they navigate thecomplexities of rebuilding their lives after addiction, highlighting thechallenges they face even after achieving sobriety. Dana's passion for her workshines through as she describes the rewarding experience of witnessing clientsreestablish relationships and regain control over their lives. Dana also introduces her innovative approach to therapy,which includes biofeedback and neurofeedback techniques. She explains how thesemethods help clients understand and regulate their brain functions, ultimatelyleading to improved mental health outcomes. Throughout the conversation, Danaemphasizes the importance of hope and the belief that recovery is a journeythat requires ongoing effort and support. Her insights into the limitations oftraditional treatment models and the potential of her methods provide a freshperspective on mental health and recovery.   Takeaways   "Recovery is being able to find your bestlife despite where you've been."   "The reason people do addictive things isto meet a need they can't find another way to meet." "There is always hope. You didn't get herein one day and you won't get out of here in one day, but do not give up." "If we change things about our body, wechange things about our brain over the long haul."    "You have to start adding stuff because yougot here because of what was added to the left side of thisteeter-totter."   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 9m
  3. Marie Elmer’s Recovery Is a Design for Living in Action | Episode 490

    FEB 22

    Marie Elmer’s Recovery Is a Design for Living in Action | Episode 490

    Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Living Sober- https://www.aa.org/living-sober-book   Best piece of Recovery advice: We don’t have to takeourselves so seriously all the time   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Marie: Somewhere Over the Rainbow - https://youtu.be/PSZxmZmBfnU   Takeaways Marie has been sober since September 6, 1983, marking over 42 years of recovery.She emphasizes the importance of community and service in recovery.Marie believes in keeping recovery simple and accessible.Literature, especially 'Living Sober', has been crucial in her recovery journey.She highlights the significance of understanding family dynamics in recovery.Marie advocates for kindness and non-judgment in helping others.She stresses the importance of self-care and health in recovery.Marie shares her experience of coping with grief after losing her son.Humor and lightness are essential in navigating recovery challenges.Marie encourages others to take what works for them and leave the rest.  Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Marie Elden sharesher inspiring journey of recovery, which began on September 6, 1983. With over42 years of sobriety, Marie emphasizes the importance of community, service,and literature in the recovery process. She discusses her early life, thecultural transition to the United States, and the impact of alcoholism on herfamily dynamics. Marie highlights the significance of keeping recovery simple,the role of humor in navigating challenges, and the importance of self-care.Through her experiences, she offers valuable insights on coping with grief, theimportance of kindness, and the need for non-judgment in helping others.Marie's story is a testament to resilience and the power of recovery.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 6m
  4. Recovery is Finding Your Way Home with Chris & Diana Albrecht | Episode 489

    FEB 16

    Recovery is Finding Your Way Home with Chris & Diana Albrecht | Episode 489

    Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Diana: Anything by Melody Beatie - https://www.melodybeattie.com/books/ Chris: Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best pieces of Recovery advice: Chris - Hit your knees and say please and thank you Diana - Do you want to be happy or do you want to be right, W.A.I.T- Why Am I Talking?   Songs that symbolize Recovery: Diana - That Wasn't Me by Brandi Carlisle - https://youtu.be/cNmo8I4dEQE?si=BvUxQJkB897H3lN1 Chris - Hurt by Johnny Cash - https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI?si=TQnUr1IYK6iIK5iN   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Chris andDiana Albrecht share their personal recovery journeys, discussing theimportance of community, family dynamics, and the impact of trauma onaddiction. They delve into the significance of the 311 retreat, atransformative experience designed to foster connection and healing amongindividuals in recovery. The conversation highlights the essence of recovery,the role of spirituality, and the tools necessary for maintaining sobriety.Chris and Diana also provide insights into their family backgrounds and howthese experiences shaped their paths to recovery, emphasizing the need forself-compassion and understanding in the healing process.   Takeaways Recovery is about experiencing a sense of peace, notmaterial gains. Connection is the antidote to addiction and isolation is atrauma response. The 311 retreat offers a unique experience for individualsin recovery. Community plays a crucial role in the recovery process. Family dynamics can significantly impact one's recoveryjourney. Understanding trauma is essential for sustainable recovery. Spiritual solutions are vital for filling the void left byaddiction. The program provides tools for better communication andrelationships. Self-compassion is necessary for healing and growth. Recovery is a continuous journey that requires ongoingeffort and support. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed under CCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 12m
  5. Recovery at Any Cost with Tadd Hopp | Episode 488

    FEB 9

    Recovery at Any Cost with Tadd Hopp | Episode 488

    Reach out to Tad Hopp Sober Coach Podcaster and YouTubeCreator Person in Long Recovery: https://www.instagram.com/magicaltadrigal/ What That Drink Cost Me: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-that-drink-cost-me/id1829187266 Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget by Sara Hepola- https://a.co/d/01aMU1qE   Best piece of Recovery Advice: Don't quit until the miraclehappens!   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Tadd: Fight Song by Rachel Platten - https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc?si=48NquIBaU6mEeQsz   Takeaways Tad Hopp has over eight years of sobriety.He serves the recovery community as a sober coach and podcaster.His podcast, 'What That Drink Cost Me,' discusses the impact of alcohol.Community and connection are vital for recovery.Tad's Thanksgiving incident was a turning point in his sobriety journey.He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in recovery.Tad found running as a healthy outlet in sobriety.He met his husband through a sober softball league.Forgiveness of past actions is a work in progress for Tad.Tad's story highlights the transformative power of recovery.  Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Tad Hopp shares hisjourney of recovery from alcohol addiction, highlighting the importance ofcommunity, vulnerability, and personal growth. With over eight years ofsobriety, Tad discusses the pivotal moments that led him to seek help,including a Thanksgiving incident that served as a wake-up call. He emphasizesthe role of connection in recovery, the challenges he faced, and the successeshe has achieved, including finding love and launching a recovery podcast. Tad'sstory is a testament to the transformative power of sobriety and the importanceof sharing one's journey to inspire others. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠)licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 12m
  6. Are We A Warning or an Example with Emily Redondo | Episode 487

    FEB 2

    Are We A Warning or an Example with Emily Redondo | Episode 487

    Learn more about Person in Long Term Recovery, Mother Wifeand author Emily Redondo: https://www.emilyredondoauthor.com/ Aces quiz: https://compassionprisonproject.org/take-the-ace-quiz/   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best Pieces of Recovery Advice: Name it, claim it, and dump it! Live and let live   Songs that symbolize Recovery to Emily: Telepath by Manchester Orchestra - https://youtu.be/-R4gSeY0XtY?si=WO1ZgAl_dm9D5RK1 This Train Don't Stop There Anymore by Elton John - https://youtu.be/SsuHAn54wPs   Takeaways Emily Redondo shares her journey through addiction andrecovery. Alcohol was Emily's substance of choice, leading tosignificant struggles. She emphasizes the importance of serving the recoverycommunity. Recovery is a continuous process, not a destination. Individual experiences in recovery can vary greatly. Growing up in a family with addiction shaped Emily'sperspective. Moving to Texas was a significant culture shock for Emily. Her first experiences with alcohol were tied to feelings ofinadequacy. Identifying as an alcoholic was a pivotal moment for Emily. The complexity of addiction includes physical dependence andemotional struggles. Relapse often begins before the first drink. Hindsight can distort our understanding of past actions. Sobriety alone does not solve underlying issues. Therapy is crucial for understanding trauma. Feelings can be managed without resorting to substances. Creativity can be a powerful outlet in recovery. Authenticity in sharing experiences fosters connection. Forgiveness is essential for personal growth. Resentments can weigh heavily on recovery. Music can symbolize and support the recovery journey.   Summary In this episode, Emily Redondo shares her profound journeythrough addiction and recovery, detailing her experiences with alcohol, theimpact of her upbringing in a family with addiction, and her path to sobriety.She emphasizes the importance of community support, the complexities ofrecovery, and the ongoing nature of healing. Emily's story is a testament toresilience and the power of personal growth in the face of adversity. In thisconversation, Emily Redondo shares her profound journey through addiction,relapse, and recovery. She discusses the complexities of relapse, theimportance of understanding trauma, and the necessity of therapy in therecovery process. Emily emphasizes the significance of self-discovery,creativity, and authentic conversations in healing. She also reflects on hermemoir, 'Wife, Mother, Drunk,' and the insights it offers into the life of anaddict. The discussion culminates in the exploration of forgiveness and therole of music in recovery, highlighting the emotional landscape of addictionand the path to healing.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 52m
  7. We Attract What We Are with Colette Baron-Reid | Episode 486

    JAN 26

    We Attract What We Are with Colette Baron-Reid | Episode 486

    Learn more about Colette Baron-Reid Expert in the field ofpersonal transformation Author published in 27 language 19 oracle card decksand 8 books the newest is The Art of Manifesting: https://www.colettebaronreid.com/   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Twenty Four Hours a Day - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/1096?Twenty-Four-Hours-a-Day-Hardcover-24-Hours Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best piece of Recovery advice: You only have to stay sober today   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Colette: Gold Dust Woman byFleetwood Mac - https://youtu.be/EFUAI_tzfgU   Takeaways: Embracing our gifts and talents is crucial in recovery. Connection to a higher power fosters authenticrelationships. Desperation can be a gift that leads to willingness. Recovery is about living in the present moment. The intersection of science and spirituality enhancesunderstanding of recovery. Action is essential in manifesting change in our lives. We broadcast a frequency that attracts similar energies. Daily practices keep us aligned with our recovery goals. Listening to our higher power guides our actions. Community support is vital for sustained recovery.   Summary: In this conversation, Colette Baron-Reid shares her profoundjourney of recovery, emphasizing the importance of transformation, community,and the role of a higher power. She reflects on her 40 years of sobriety, thesignificance of the 12 steps, and how creativity and manifestation have playedcrucial roles in her healing process. Colette discusses the science behindconsciousness and how it influences our experiences in recovery, encouragingothers to embrace their creativity and align with their true selves. In thisengaging conversation, Colette Baron-Reid and the host explore the profoundthemes of recovery, spirituality, and personal growth. They discuss theimportance of embracing one's gifts and talents in recovery, the power ofconnection with a higher power, and the transformative nature of desperation.The dialogue delves into the intersection of science and spirituality,emphasizing the role of action in manifesting change and the significance ofdaily recovery practices. The speakers share personal anecdotes and insights,highlighting the importance of community and the ongoing journey ofself-discovery in recovery.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 28m
  8. Losing Her, Finding Us with Janelle Martin | Episode 485

    JAN 19

    Losing Her, Finding Us with Janelle Martin | Episode 485

    More about Janelle Martin Doctor of functional medicine, Brain healer Licensedcounselor and founder of The Mind Connection a holistic mental health practicebased in Houston, Texas, where she helps clients heal from trauma, addiction,and emotional dysregulation using an integrative mind-body approach: https://mindconnection.org/   Janelle’s Book: Losing Her, Finding Us: A Mother's Fight, ADaughter's Journey and the Road to Recovery - https://a.co/d/7r17SHv   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:   High Achiever: The Incredible True Story of One Addict'sDouble Life by Tiffany Jenkins - https://a.co/d/75xRh9t Beyond the Yellow Brick Road: Our Children and Drugs by BobMeehan - https://a.co/d/aP86wue   Best piece of Recovery advice: Let it go   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Janelle: My Story by Big Daddy Weave - https://youtu.be/1TKAN-nAsu8?si=ptrgvKQfllYiSSrs   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Janelle Martinshares her profound journey through the challenges of parenting a child withaddiction. She emphasizes the importance of family recovery, the need forunconditional love, and the significance of long-term support systems. Janellediscusses her experiences with treatment, the impact of trauma, and the healingpower of connection. She also highlights her holistic approach to mental healththrough her practice, The Mind Connection, and the importance of ongoingrecovery practices.   Takeaways Recovery is best when families recover together.The whole family gets sick due to addiction.Parent meetings provide a lifeline for families.Letting go is crucial for parents of addicted children.Long-term recovery is essential for lasting change.Unconditional love can be found in recovery communities.Trauma plays a significant role in addiction.Writing a book helped bridge the gap between perspectives.Holistic healing can support brain health in recovery.Daily practices are vital for maintaining recovery.  Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2026 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed under CCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 15m
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