Built for MENA - by Dom Kozak

Dom Kozak

Built for MENA is the podcast exploring the real stories shaping advertising and marketing technology across the Middle East. Each episode, Dom Kozak speaks with the people building, selling, scaling — and sometimes breaking — AdTech and MarTech in the region. The twist: every guest in Season One answers the same seven questions, so we can compare experiences, surface patterns, and get past the press releases. From retail media and programmatic out-of-home to AI and data regulation — what actually works here, what doesn't, and why this region is so different. New episodes fortnightly. Be a gue

Episodes

  1. 10 Aug ·  Bonus

    The Story So Far: a Built for MENA special

    Five episodes in, and five people who build, sell and spend money in this region have answered exactly the same seven questions. No guest this time. This is what actually came out of those conversations: where they agreed, where they flatly contradicted each other, and the one answer that surprised me most. What's in it: • The only thing all five said without being prompted and without hearing each other: what works everywhere else does not work here. Then five completely different reasons why • Four of five said relationships matter more than technology. The one who said technology is the most interesting answer of the season, and it isn't the odd one out • The real argument running under season one: everyone agrees the region moves fast, nobody agrees on what the speed is costing us • Terry Kane's hardest number of the season, 80% of the money in a place where people spend 30% of their time, and the same imbalance reached from the agency side by Trevor d'Souza • Oliver Klander giving the identical answer to "most overrated buzzword" and "most underrated opportunity", about four seconds apart • Kelly-Marie Fernandes on skipping the Frankenstack that Europe and the US built, and the condition she puts on it that I haven't been able to stop thinking about • Why Sunil Modha and Trevor d'Souza both reject "emerging", and the case that this market is early rather than behind • Three of five, asked what skill the industry needs next, said a version of listening. Not a technology. Listening With clips from Terry Kane (The Trade Desk), Oliver Klander (LiveRamp), Sunil Modha (Smartly), Trevor d'Souza (Radix Media) and Kelly-Marie Fernandes. Season one isn't finished, it's halfway through. I'm taking a break for the summer and I'll be back later in the year with the second half: more guests, the same seven questions, and we'll see whether the patterns hold or whether the next five people tear all of this up. If you've got someone I should be talking to, or you think I've read these five conversations wrong, tell me. I'd genuinely like to hear it. Listen at builtformena.com. Every guest faces the same seven questions, so you can compare how the region's operators really think.

    The Story So Far: a Built for MENA special
  2. 27 Jul

    EPISODE 04: Trevor d'Souza (Radix Media)

    Trevor d'Souza, who leads media investments across Radix MENA, joins Built for MENA, the podcast on what it actually takes to build, sell and scale AdTech and MarTech in the region.Trevor describes his seat plainly: he's responsible for where clients' money goes "and if it's working or not," across the full mix, not a platform person but "the person who tries to make sense of it all." And in this market, making sense of it starts with throwing out the standard assumption that one plan fits all. You've got 200 nationalities carrying different identities, communities and languages, with consumption shifting by day, time, platform and language. His sharpest reframe is that reach isn't the problem here. This is "the most connected market in the world," and "you can buy reach all day and impressions all day." What's harder to buy is whether the message is landing, whether you're contextually correct. As he puts it, "you cannot do one channel, one format and call it a media strategy."The only-in-MENA moments make the point better than any theory. A campaign that ran out of home with artworks in Tagalog and Arabic, Malayalam and Arabic, Hindi and Arabic, English and Arabic. "Which other market can you pick on?" Or the planning puzzle of a professional in their 30s consuming three radio stations a day across five platforms, on Instagram but not active. Even Mother's Day arrives three or four times a year here, celebrated on different dates by different communities. Trevor's own morning delivered the best evidence for his argument that outsiders "underestimate the value of offline": his car broke down, he took the metro to the interview, and was struck by how many people around him were listening to the radio on headphones. Premium out of home "carries enormous weight," and his warning on the funnel is blunt: if you don't fill it at the top, it's never going to come down.Asked what he'd build from scratch, Trevor doesn't hesitate: one platform that gives a genuine full-funnel picture across offline and online, plus a cleaner way to evaluate media quality rather than just quantify it. "We burn impressions, but are we getting engagement?" And his five-year view is the boldest claim of the episode: if this region cracks the code, it could be the only market with a real framework for reaching a multicultural audience, one every diversifying city from London to Portugal will eventually need. "We have our own playbook." He tells the story of asking a US planner how to reach specific Indian communities in specific American cities, and the answer came down to Meta and Google. In the UAE, "we know where they stay." His discipline for getting there is the one he's set his whole team for 2026: keep asking why. "Ask 100 whys if you need to." Go sit in the client's office, be part of the business, understand the whys.Full episode and every previous conversation at builtformena.com.Quick-fire: • MENA advertising in one word? Underpriced • Most overrated buzzword in AdTech? Personalization • Most underrated opportunity in MENA AdTech? Integration •

    EPISODE 04: Trevor d'Souza (Radix Media)
  3. 20 Jul

    EPISODE 03: Sunil Modha (Smartly)

    Sunil Modha — Client Partner for Smartly across the Middle East — joins Built for MENA, the podcast on what it actually takes to build, sell and scale AdTech and MarTech in the region.Sunil's through-line is deceptively simple, and he keeps returning to it: the global playbook doesn't work here. He realised it the moment he flew in to launch the UAE for a global CPG — "a global playbook doesn't work in this region," he told his colleagues over dinner, and it set the tone for everything since. You can't fly a few people in, run the Western template and expect to hit the ground running. You have to sit in the market, understand the ecosystem — how agencies, brands, tech partners and publishers actually work together — and hire people who can build relationships, not just operate tech.That relationship point is where he's most emphatic. Business here strips out the transactional element: before anyone talks tech or terms, the first question is who am I engaging with — their background, what makes them tick, their family values. The region rewards longevity and trust, and Sunil describes the surreal moment of walking into a meeting to find the owner — the family that runs the business — across the table, wanting the personal connection and ready to hold you accountable.He's just as sharp on the biggest outside misread: that MENA is "playing catch-up." It isn't. It's playing a different game — deliberately deciding which technology has genuine longevity rather than chasing every shiny stack. Cost almost becomes irrelevant; it's the service and the human experts behind the tech that matter. On AI — "the two-letter word everyone's avoiding" — his test is blunt: "So what?" Technology only earns its place if you know how and where to apply it.There's a lovely only-in-MENA moment too (the scale of the Under Armour store at Dubai Hills Mall — a masterclass in how global brands localise), his read that the region carries far less brand "baggage" than the West, and an optimistic close: the GCC will lead, becoming the hub of smart technology, smart services and a smart way of living. What has to happen to get there? His answer is the whole interview in three words — more people listening.Quick-fire:• Most overrated buzzword in AdTech? AI• Most underrated opportunity in MENA AdTech? Data privacy• Relationships or technology? Relationships — hands down• One skill to develop next? Continue listening

    EPISODE 03: Sunil Modha (Smartly)
  4. 13 Jul

    EPISODE 02: Oliver Klander (LiveRamp)

    Oliver Klander, Regional VP for LiveRamp across MENA, joins Built for MENA — the podcast on what it actually takes to build, sell and scale AdTech and MarTech in the Middle East. Oliver's core argument: this region doesn't just move fast, it refuses to come second — and that changes everything about how you win here. He unpacks why being on the ground beats a great product with a great reputation: the biggest mistake outsiders make is assuming the tech travels on its own, when success is built on real relationships across the whole ecosystem — publishers, platforms, brands, retailers. It's also, he says, the one market where the door is genuinely open: CEO or planner, everyone's in the room and everyone wants to connect, with none of the gatekeeping you hit in more established regions. We dig into the Middle East's quiet superpower — first-party data "in bucket loads" from the loyalty schemes of the big conglomerates — and why the real prize isn't the data itself but connecting it for addressable reach. Oliver makes the case that value alignment is non-negotiable here (this region won't be sold something that doesn't translate into what was promised), flags retail media as the most misunderstood trend — onsite vs offsite, and where it truly sits in the P&L — and looks ahead to a "stratospheric" twelve months as Disney, Netflix, Paramount and Amazon scale into the region. With MENA's ad spend already outgrowing every other market, his read on the recent turbulence is characteristically bullish: the Middle East always comes back stronger. Quick-fire: • MENA advertising in one word? Exciting • The most overrated buzzword in AdTech right now? Retail media • The most underrated opportunity in MENA AdTech? Retail media • Relationships or technology, what matters more here? Relationships • One skill AdTech professionals in MENA must develop next? Humility and understanding Listen at builtformena.com. Every guest answers the same seven questions, so you can compare how the region's operators really think.

    EPISODE 02: Oliver Klander (LiveRamp)

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Built for MENA is the podcast exploring the real stories shaping advertising and marketing technology across the Middle East. Each episode, Dom Kozak speaks with the people building, selling, scaling — and sometimes breaking — AdTech and MarTech in the region. The twist: every guest in Season One answers the same seven questions, so we can compare experiences, surface patterns, and get past the press releases. From retail media and programmatic out-of-home to AI and data regulation — what actually works here, what doesn't, and why this region is so different. New episodes fortnightly. Be a gue