The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com

  1. COMING FRIDAY OCTOBER 17TH - Something's Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie

    8 HR AGO

    COMING FRIDAY OCTOBER 17TH - Something's Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie

    Fridays starting October 2025. You know that feeling? When a case doesn’t add up, when the story feels off? That’s where Investigative Journalists and podcast hosts, Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie, come in, breaking down the crimes, the trials, and the cover-ups that make you say: Something’s Off. ❤️ If you like our work, click the tip jar ❤️ 🚨 Here's the link to the SOMETHING'S OFF YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingsOffPod -- Please subscribe for updates. Podcast episodes will be released on Patreon and video episodes will be released on YT! 🛒 Need something from Amazon: Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    2 min
  2. Hiding in Plain Sight: The Murder of Leslie Preer

    1 DAY AGO

    Hiding in Plain Sight: The Murder of Leslie Preer

    In May of 2001, 49-year-old Leslie Preer was found brutally murdered inside her Chevy Chase home. For years, suspicion shadowed her husband, Sandy, who failed a polygraph and couldn’t explain his movements the night before her death. But one piece of evidence—male DNA under Leslie’s fingernails—told a different story. Two decades later, a new generation of detectives reopened the case, armed with technology that didn’t exist back then. Using forensic genetic genealogy, they traced the unknown DNA to a name that stunned everyone: Eugene Gligor, a D.C. man who had once dated Leslie’s daughter, Lauren. This episode unravels how Gligor lived freely for 23 years—attending recovery meetings, making friends, and even speaking kindly to Lauren years after the murder—while concealing the truth. We’ll follow the investigation from that first chilling crime scene through the groundbreaking DNA match, Gligor’s arrest and guilty plea, and the courtroom reckoning that finally brought justice for Leslie and cleared her husband’s name. It’s a story about secrets that linger, the families left in their wake, and the detectives who refuse to let time silence the truth. Because for every case like this one—where a killer is finally unmasked—there are thousands more still waiting in the dark. Thousands of families still waiting for the knock on the door that says, “We got him.” ❤️ If you like Mel's work, click the tip jar ❤️ 🚨 Here's the link to the SOMETHING'S OFF YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingsOffPod -- Please subscribe for updates. Podcast episodes will be released on Patreon and video episodes will be released on YT! 🛒 Need something from Amazon: Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    32 min
  3. TRAILER: Something's Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie

    EPISODE 50

    TRAILER: Something's Off with Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie

    Dropping Fridays starting October 2025. You know that feeling? When a case doesn’t add up, when the story feels off? That’s where Investigative Journalists and podcast hosts, Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie, come in, breaking down the crimes, the trials, and the cover-ups that make you say: Something’s Off. ❤️ If you like our work, click the tip jar ❤️ 🚨 Here's the link to the SOMETHING'S OFF YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingsOffPod -- Please subscribe for updates. Podcast episodes will be released on Patreon and video episodes will be released on YT! 🛒 Need something from Amazon: Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    2 min
  4. A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case Part TWO

    8 OCT

    A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case Part TWO

    ❤️If you like Mel's work, hit the tip jar❤️ In Part Two of A SAVAGE FOREST, we pick up where the mountain left off—with a body, a knife, and a story that keeps changing. The autopsy contradicts Megan’s account of a tragic accident, revealing seven deep, deliberate cuts to Alexander Stevens’ throat. As prosecutors build their case for murder, Megan’s defense paints a different picture: one of manipulation, trauma, and control. In this episode, we step inside the courtroom, examining the forensic evidence, the dueling expert testimony, and the strange allegations that shaped the trial—including Megan’s claim that Alex had once carved a cross into her back. It’s a story that hovers between love and violence, faith and obsession—and it forces us to ask how far we’ll go to make sense of something senseless. By the end, we’re left with more questions than answers. Did Megan kill Alex in cold blood—or did a ritual between two broken people spiral out of control? The jury made their decision. But for those who have studied this case, something still doesn’t feel right. 🚨Here's the link to Mel's new show with Rebecca Lavoie, SOMETHING'S OFF: https://www.youtube.com/@SomethingsOffPod -- Please subscribe for updates. Podcast episodes will be released here on Patreon and video episodes will be released on YT! 🛒 Need something from Amazon?  Mel's Affiliate Links: 🕵🏻‍♀️ Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    23 min
  5. A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case

    1 OCT

    A Savage Forest: The Megan Shaffer And Alex Stevens Case

    On a freezing night in January 2017, 21-year-old Megan Shaffer and 24-year-old Alexander Stevens hiked deep into Savage River State Forest in Western Maryland. They carried candles, a knife, and even Alex’s pet cat—preparing for what Megan would later describe as a “cleansing ritual.” Hours later, Megan was rescued—naked, bruised, hypothermic—while Alex was found dead in a frozen creek, his throat cut and candles burned to stubs around him. Megan gave police not one, but three conflicting stories. An accident. A suicide. A forced plunge and a ritual gone wrong. And yet the evidence pointed somewhere darker. In this first episode, I take you into the woods, through the timeline of that night, and into Megan’s shifting accounts. By the end, when the autopsy contradicts everything she said, you’ll understand why this case still haunts Savage Mountain—and why I can’t shake the feeling that something doesn’t add up. Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    27 min
  6. Suicide or Silence: The Murder of Sandra Birchmore

    23 SEPT

    Suicide or Silence: The Murder of Sandra Birchmore

    In February 2021, twenty-three-year-old Sandra Birchmore was found dead in her Canton, Massachusetts apartment. She was eight months pregnant. The official ruling: suicide by asphyxia. For years, that’s where the story stopped. But when the FBI uncovered more than thirty thousand missing messages between Sandra and Stoughton Police Officer Matthew Farwell, the truth began to surface — a decade of grooming, coercion, and control. In August 2024, Farwell was indicted for Sandra’s murder. In this episode of The In Between, Mel revisits Sandra’s life and death, and the long silence that followed. We examine how investigators missed — or buried — crucial evidence, and how the same failures echo through the case of Karen Read. From missing messages to bent timelines, from compromised investigators to federal intervention, Sandra’s story reveals not just one tragedy, but a culture of cover-ups that stretches far beyond her. This is the story of a young woman who deserved better, and of the patterns that keep repeating when the powerful write the ending. Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    24 min
  7. The Martyr Machine: Charlie Kirk and the Politics of Stochastic Terrorism

    16 SEPT

    The Martyr Machine: Charlie Kirk and the Politics of Stochastic Terrorism

    On September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on stage at Utah Valley University. The media asked, “How did we get here?” But the truth is—we already know. In this special episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, breaks the mold of the series to trace the long road that led to Kirk’s assassination: Donald Trump’s decades of violent rhetoric, the rise of Nick Fuentes and the Groypers, Kirk’s own pivot into conspiratorial territory with the Epstein files, and the online ecosystems where memes become manifestos. We’ll look at the shooter, Tyler Robinson, his bullet casings engraved with anti-fascist slogans and internet jokes, and the instant wave of conspiracy theories—about security guards, hand signals, and martyrdom—that followed. We’ll also confront the political aftermath, where Republican lawmakers blamed Democrats instead of guns, and where stochastic terrorism—the unpredictable violence seeded by years of hateful rhetoric—became undeniable. This isn’t just the story of one man’s death. It’s the story of how rhetoric turns to blood, how violence is normalized, and how a democracy erodes when cruelty becomes identity. Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    32 min
  8. Tying It All Together: The Ellen Greenberg Case Part Two

    9 SEPT

    Tying It All Together: The Ellen Greenberg Case Part Two

    This week on The In Between Podcast, host Mel Barrett, revisits the aftermath of the night Ellen Greenberg was found with twenty stab wounds in her Philadelphia apartment—and the instant clash between an autopsy that pointed to homicide and a police narrative that leaned suicide. Through the “locked room” lens, Mel unpacks what the door latch could (and couldn’t) prove, why the body’s injuries don’t match a self-inflicted story, and how a professionally cleaned scene and pre-warrant removal of electronics crippled the forensics. Along the way, she draws clear parallels to Sandra Birchmore, Karen Read...and ultimately Veronika Rodriguez where tidy explanations outpaced the evidence. The episode centers the politics of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's highest echelon of power and decision-making. As friends, family, and community activists ask why Governor Josh Shapiro isn't getting involved in the Veronika Rodriguez case, Ellen Greenberg's case might give us some insight. Mel's Affiliate Links: Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod Web: inbetweenpod.com

    15 min
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There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that made Smart a national villain—and questions everything we thought we knew. Season Two, From Victim to Accused: The Veronika Rodriguez Story, pulls back the curtain on a case where a 26-year-old Air National Guard member reported a sexual assault—and ended up the one in handcuffs. What happened next is more than a miscarriage of justice. It’s a warning. This is the space between the crime and the courtroom, the headlines and the hidden truth. This is The In Between. Join the Investigator Club for AD FREE, exclusive behind-the-scenes, and bonus content of The In Between Podcast: https://patreon.com/TheInBetweenPodcastwithMelBarrett?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow The In Between Podcast at: IG: @TheInBetweenPodOfficial FB: @TheInBetweenPod Bluesky: @inbetweenpod TikTok: @jackofalltradesdc Web: inbetweenpod.com

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