The Breakout Room

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Not all breakout rooms are awkward. Some spark real connection. Welcome to the one you actually want to be in The Breakout Room Podcast brings candid conversations about leadership, teamwork, and growth — blending practical insights with a fresh perspective on what it takes to lead well today.

6 JAN

Your Leadership Team Is Only as Strong as Its Weakest Member

Welcome to The Breakout Room.This week’s episode begins with a hard truth every senior leader needs to hear: your team’s performance doesn’t rise to the average — it sinks to the level of the least evolved leader. That one insight kicks off a candid and layered conversation between Betsy and Paul about leadership, complexity, and the hidden dynamics of high-stakes teams.KEY MOMENTS IN THIS EPISODE:00:00 Introduction to Team Performance02:17 The Role of Critical Leadership03:00 Navigating Complexity in Teams03:33 The Impact of Reactive Tendencies04:50 Building a Platform for Team Success05:56 From Swim Lanes to Whitewater Rafting09:01 Reframing Critical Feedback as a Gift12:22 Truth Bombs vs. Building Trust16:04 The Lonely Role of the Truth Teller18:03 Personal Anecdotes and Reflections20:40 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsHere’s what you’ll hear in this powerful episode:• Why the team’s weakest link determines overall performanceBetsy opens with a bold claim: performance aligns with the lowest-evolved team member, not the middle or the average. Paul agrees — and shares why that plays out so often in executive teams.• How rising complexity reveals the true strength of your teamIn low complexity, swim lane thinking works. But when things get chaotic, you need a whitewater-ready team that can pull each other back into the raft when someone falls out.• What happens when reactive or egocentric leaders are allowed to stayWhether through fear or avoidance, teams often tolerate behavior that quietly undermines their collective growth. The impact? Everyone pays for the underdevelopment of one.• The illusion of maturity masked by “perfect” communicationPaul shares how he’s seeing a flattening of communication styles — polished, AI-fed, and emotionally distant. It looks fine on the surface but misses the human depth needed for real collaboration.• The shift from critical to courageous authenticityThis is where the episode shines. Betsy and Paul unpack how critical leaders can evolve without losing their edge. The goal isn’t to stop seeing what’s wrong — it’s to speak it in a way others can hear and build from.• A real-life CEO breakthroughBetsy tells a story about a leader who catches himself before launching into a critical rant. With a prompt to reframe from “critical and arrogant” to “courageous and systems-aware,” he transforms the room and invites his team into real conversation.• Why “truth bombs” don’t build trustPaul explores the difference between exposing the truth and inviting others into it. The most gifted truth-tellers are often right, but when their delivery lacks care, the team shuts down.• The loneliness of being a high-critical leaderIf you’ve ever been the one who “sees everything” but feels pushed out or misunderstood, this one will resonate. They explore how the system uses and then resists truth-tellers and what to do about it.As always, there’s plenty of humor and humanity woven throughout:• Betsy celebrates her son’s commitment to Bradley University and shares the surprising leadership inspiration she found in a college baseball coach.• Paul offers a very real update on his long-stalled house renovation in Italy — complete with holiday-season construction delays and a still-hopeful outlook.This is one of those episodes that goes beyond surface leadership advice. It’s a deep dive into what makes teams thrive (or fail) under pressure, how self-awareness shows up in action, and why courageous authenticity is the most powerful tool a leader can develop.If you’re a leader, team builder, coach, or just someone navigating the complexity of working with other humans — this conversation is for you.If you're ready for honest insights, stories from the road, and a few laughs along the way... you're in the right room.🔗 Follow Us:PAUL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrneBETSY: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/Thanks for joining us in The Breakout Room.

32 min
21/10/2025

The Leadership Trait You Were Taught to Hide

Welcome to The Breakout Room. In this powerful conversation, co-hosts Paul Byrne and Betsy Leatherman explore the subtle leadership genius that so many of us were taught to bury. From the early lessons that taught us to minimize our strengths to the lifelong journey of reclaiming them with intention and care, this episode is a deep dive into conscious leadership, self-awareness, and reintegration. KEY MOMENTS IN THIS EPISODE: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:00:28 - Unlocking Leadership Potential 00:00:54 - Conscious Leadership vs Creative Leadership 00:01:40 - The Practice of Conscious Leadership 00:02:40 - The Challenge of Staying Conscious 00:02:58 - The Role of Conscious Leaders 00:03:18 - The Gift of Grandparents 00:04:53 - Fine-Tuning Leadership 00:05:41 - Reintegrating Disowned Gifts 00:06:23 - Navigating Arrogance in Leadership 00:09:10 - The Power of Discernment in Leadership 00:11:01 - The Struggle of Experienced Leaders 00:11:47 - Reintegrating the Self into Leadership 00:11:54 - Navigating Dyslexia and Insecurity in Leadership 00:17:02 - The Concept of Leadership Genius 00:25:47 - Understanding Your Own Leadership Genius 00:27:38 - The Role of Humor and Passion in Leadership 00:29:14 - Advice on Identifying and Utilizing Leadership Genius 00:30:43 - Discovering Your Leadership Genius 00:32:30 - The Role of AI and Relationships in Leadership 00:34:14 - The Power of Team Leadership Genius 00:34:50 - Intellectualization as a Barrier to Relationship 00:35:19 - Closing Remarks What once felt overgrown, messy, or too much might actually be the most vibrant part of your leadership. It sets the tone for a thoughtful, deeply personal exploration of how our most authentic traits often get pushed aside in favor of what we think leadership "should" look like. This is not your typical executive coaching session; it's a reminder that the parts of ourselves we left behind might be the very keys to our greatest impact. Paul and Betsy reflect on the stories we tell ourselves and the beliefs we carry into adulthood that shape how we show up at work, at home, and in our communities. They walk through the difference between creative and reactive leadership styles, how the Leadership Circle Profile reveals both brilliance and blind spots, and why truly impactful executive coaching isn't about changing who you are, but about reclaiming what you were taught to hide. With decades of experience in leadership development and executive coaching, Paul and Betsy offer not only frameworks and tools, but also authentic stories that reveal their own ongoing work. Paul opens up about the experience of growing up with dyslexia, the narrative of invisibility he internalized, and how that shaped his leadership style. Betsy shares a candid story about receiving feedback on her own "sneaky arrogance," and how she learned to reframe it as a powerful leadership asset when used with intention. This episode is filled with real-life examples, honest stories from the road, and rich insight into how high-performing leaders navigate the tension between humility, confidence, and courageous authenticity. Through their candid dialogue, Paul and Betsy show what it means to do the work—to bring back the orphaned parts of ourselves that leadership culture often told us to suppress. If you're looking for a space where professional growth meets personal reflection, where humor and humanity sit alongside strategy and insight, you are in the right room. 🔗 Follow Us: PAUL: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrne] BETSY: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/] Thanks for joining us in The Breakout Room.

36 min
09/07/2025

The Heart of Coaching: Humans Before AI

Welcome to The Breakout Room.In this episode we dive into the true heart of coaching, why “being more human” still outperforms any AI playbook, how falling in love with your clients fuels results, and the simple art of listening beyond words. Paul and Betsy sit down with coaching pioneer Karen Kimsey-House to explore what changes in our tech-driven era…and what endures. Expect honest stories, fresh perspectives, and a few laughs along the way. If you're ready for honest insights, stories from the road, and a few laughs along the way... you're in the right room.KEY MOMENTS IN THIS EPISODE:00:00 Introduction to Human-Centered Feedback01:17 The Heart of Coaching: A Conversation Begins01:34 Personal Reflections on Coaching02:33 Challenges and Insights in Coaching03:45 The Role of Feedback in Leadership04:23 The Human Element in Coaching12:11 Introducing Karen Kimsey-House16:14 Founding Stories of CTI18:11 Discovering a Lifelong Passion18:31 The Birth of a Partnership19:18 Surprising Growth of the Coaching Profession19:53 Reflections on the Coaching Journey22:30 The Power of Listening and Believing23:39 Embracing Imperfection in Leadership29:57 Building and Sustaining Community37:23 The Future of Coaching38:21 Concluding Thoughts and Gratitude🎧 Listen to The Breakout Room:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-breakout-room/id1815163540Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2E8OkaTmQRUXuWaYfnDGht🔗 Follow Us:PAUL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrneBETSY: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/Thanks for joining us in The Breakout Room.

40 min
25/06/2025

This Analogy Changed How a CEO Faced Complexity

Welcome to The Breakout Room — the space where real leadership conversations happen.In this episode, Paul and Betsy talk rest, burnout, and the gift of slowing down. They unpack leadership blindspots, polarities, and how to thrive in complexity. If you're a leader, team builder, or lifelong learner looking for honest stories, real growth, and a few laughs along the way, you're in the right room. KEY MOMENTS IN THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Navigating Leadership Challenges and Polarities 01:15 The Importance of Rest and Work-Life Balance 02:52 Personal Experiences with Work and Rest 07:38 Introducing a Special Guest 08:07 Understanding Polarities in Leadership 14:45 Complexity and Leadership 19:31 Balancing Challenge and Support in Coaching 20:27 Redefining Support: Confidence and Vulnerability 22:15 The Platinum Rule in Leadership 23:27 Navigating Polarities in Leadership 24:17 Practical Approaches to Polarity Management 28:16 The Importance of 'And' in Leadership 30:31 Current Leadership Challenges and Polarities 32:30 Masculine and Feminine Energies in Leadership 37:50 Polarity Stacking and Problem Solving 40:04 Conclusion and Resources Follow Us:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@The_Breakout_Room Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrne Betsy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/ New episodes every other week. Subscribe and join the conversation.

41 min
SEASON 1, EPISODE 77 TRAILER

TRAILER: EPISODE 02

Get ready for Episode 2 of the Breakout Room w/ guest Steve Athey.

1 min
11/06/2025

How Top Leaders Transform Results by Changing Their Inner Story

Welcome to The Breakout Room, Episode 02. In this episode: we explore the hidden stories shaping leadership and identity. Paul and Betsy share lessons from life changes, and special guest Steve Athie brings powerful insights on expanding your narrative. If you're a leader, team builder, or lifelong learner looking for honest stories, real growth, and a few laughs along the way, you're in the right room. Watch us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@The_Breakout_Room Follow Us: Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrne Betsy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/ New episodes every week. Subscribe and join the conversation.

41 min
27/05/2025

How Top Teams Lead Through Global Shocks

Welcome to The Breakout Room. In this episode, Paul and Betsy kick things off with a surprisingly sharp lesson from international hotel buffets—yes, really—before diving into how top teams are navigating the whirlwind of global uncertainty. They unpack real-world leadership insights from Saudi Arabia to South Korea, explore why clear doesn’t always mean certain, and offer grounded ways leaders can build rhythm without rigidity. If you're ready for honest insights, stories from the road, and a few laughs along the way... you're in the right room. KEY MOMENTS IN THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Introduction: Navigating Uncertaint y00:32 Leadership in Chaotic Times 00:54 Breakout Room: Strategies and Insights 01:34 The Role of Authenticity in Leadership 03:00 Decision Making in Uncertain Times 04:49 The Power of Connection and Teamwork 13:39 Embracing Disagreement and Experimentation 19:05 Seeing Opportunity in Uncertainty 22:43 Leadership Style and Puzzle Pieces 25:15 Engaging Team Conversations 28:44 Tips for Leaders in Uncertain Times 36:42 The Power of Vision and Resources in Saudi Arabia 41:07 Upcoming Plans and Reflection Follow Us: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@The_Breakout_Room Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ptbyrne Betsy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsy-leatherman-99b7b4/ New episodes every other week. Subscribe and join the conversation.

44 min
SEASON 1, EPISODE 1 TRAILER

The Breakout Room Teaser

We’re building the space you actually want to join. Where leadership meets real conversation, real growth, and a little bit of laughter. In this episode, we dive into what inspired The Breakout Room, why leadership needs both lightness and depth, and the lessons we've learned working with extraordinary teams and leaders. If you're ready for honest insights, stories from the road, and a few laughs along the way... you're in the right room. Watch the latest episode now!

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Not all breakout rooms are awkward. Some spark real connection. Welcome to the one you actually want to be in The Breakout Room Podcast brings candid conversations about leadership, teamwork, and growth — blending practical insights with a fresh perspective on what it takes to lead well today.

Creator

Paul
Years Active

2025 - 2026
Episodes

8
Rating

Clean
Copyright

© Paul
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The Breakout Room