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Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, Jordan Gal
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Three founders, Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, and Jordan Gal, discuss product strategy in the age of AI, wins/misses, and ultimately, how to build a better business and a better life.

  1. 1 day ago ·  Video

    Eat Your Customer's Pain

    We’re joined by Aaron Francis who shares his experience after joining Laravel, Laravel's evolution, marketing strategies, and the future of cloud computing. How is Jev changing the cost and way we use LLMs. And what is the future of education and training on the web? Timestamps:00:00 - Intro03:03 - Aaron's Laracon reveal and why he took the job09:03 - Open source roots, cloud money, and VC-scale growth14:58 - Who Laravel Cloud is actually built for19:07 - Taylor's "best in category" tweet, unpacked22:52 - Ambition and care beat chasing every feature27:02 - Founders need a point of view, not just a new tool31:46 - PHP's culture keep Laravel grounded35:25 - Justin's Vegas Retreat45:10 - Introducing Jev, and how it's different from an LLM58:23 - Rosie, ChatGPT Live, and whether full-stack agents are any good62:16 - "Eat the pain" for your customers as a strategy77:41 - Aaron's Astra 3D office walkthrough demo81:11 - Are courses dead? Where dev education goes next YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Jev announcement postSyntax: WTF is Jev?Aaron's product - SoloAaron's 3D modeling with Astra90s PC game: Incredible MachineNew Builder Methods pageAaron FrancisIntroducing GPT-Live | OpenAITypeSafe AIFree AI Voice Generator & Voice Agents Platform | ElevenLabsCompare AI Models: Pricing, Context & Benchmarks | OpenRouter

    Eat Your Customer's Pain

  2. 31 Jul ·  Video

    Fiddling With Your Funnel

    How's your funnel doing? Jordan and Brian are joined by Henry Poydar to chat about integrating human and autonomous agents, building and testing product prototypes in days, not years, the importance of flexible, adaptive funnels, and debate the future of SaaS, unbundling, and the agent-first software paradigm.  Timestamps:YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: SteadyHeyRosyBuilder MethodsOpenRoutines.devClaudeFlywriteVantaDripBentoHelp Scout

  3. 12 Jun ·  Video

    Price Fixing FTW!

    If you're trying to fix your funnel, where do you start? And how much of an impact do we think Fable is going to have on AI pricing?  Timestamps:00:00 Intro03:27 Impact of AI and Market Dynamics06:24 Taking Control of Your Funnel17:12 The impact of Fable on AI Costs26:04 SpaceX IPO and Betting on Space42:56 Opportunities for SaaS Businesses in 2026 with Domain Expertise01:07:36 Allowances for kids works best in with communism YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Data SchoolKickbacks.ai - Get paid for waitingSpaceX IPO ProspectusFable AIAI sandwichAfter AutomationOpenAI Considers Drastic Price Cuts (WSJ)SpaceX stock jumps after record IPO, making Musk the first trillionaireSpaceX is asking for $1.75. That's ridiculous (but I'm giving them money anyway)Andrew McCalip

  4. 22 May ·  Video

    Vibe coding is not a real business model

    How is multiplayer being addressed in AI, should we scale humans or agents, and is every small business going to vibe code their own apps? With special guest Henry Poydar. Timestamps:00:00 Welcome to The Panel03:06 Business Updates05:53 Coordination Challenges in Teams with AI11:48 Trust and Accountability in Team Dynamics17:45 The Future of Team Structures20:30 Scaling with Agents vs. Traditional Teams25:48 The Future of Company Organization27:58 The Intersection of AI and Creativity36:02 Challenges in the Music Industry with AI40:32 Navigating the VC Landscape45:45 The Indie Entrepreneur Path48:20 Vertical Saas and tool building01:01:17 Weeknd plans and talking politics YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: SteadyHenry PoydarTinaFey on what it's really like to have a teenage daughterCharlie AIDevinHow I build agents that work the night shiftGranolaVibe-Coded AI 'Slop' Is Flooding the World With Potentially Dangerous Code—'Eventually It Will Catch Up to Us'

  5. 18 Apr ·  Video

    The power of attention

    In this episode we discuss how small teams can leverage AI as teammates, the impact on business outcomes, and the cultural shifts driven by AI advancements. How would Steve Jobs handle marketing and selling AI at Apple? How do the kids today think about AI? And Jordan explains the Allbirds nonsense. Chapters:00:00 Introduction01:38 The Evolution of Teamwork and Tools07:41 Balancing Accountability and Autonomy10:40 The Role of Agents in Team Dynamics13:42 Challenges of Implementing AI in Business16:36 The Future of Marketing and AI22:39 Imagining Steve Jobs in the Age of AI30:42 The Value of Struggle and Learning in a Tech-Driven World39:58 Navigating Career Paths in an Evolving Job Market45:50 Navigating Job Market Changes50:16 Jordan explains The Allbirds Controversy57:04 The Power of Attention in Business01:02:29 Storytelling in Marketing01:10:51 Building Relationships for Effective Distribution01:15:11 Pricing Transistor's Video Strategy01:23:42 Innovative Marketing Strategies and Anticipation Phases YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Henry's product - https://runsteady.com/Linear blog post (brave) - https://linear.app/nextAllbirds turns into an AI  company - https://creators.yahoo.com/lifestyle/story/the-unhinged-genius-of-allbirds-39m-exit-sell-the-brand-spike-demand-become-ai-164312969.htmlThe company that acquired the old Allbirds brand - https://www.axnygroup.com/our-brandsCNBC: “Struggling shoe retailer Allbirds makes bizarre pivot to AI, adds $127 million in value”

  6. 3 Apr

    Respite from the Dopamine Machine

    Why doesn't AI prompt us more often if it's so smart? Ryan Hefner joins us to chat about our daily drivers for shoes, IDE, AI provider, getting the news, and planning a vacation.  Timestamps: (00:07) - Introducing Ryan Hefner (03:53) - Today's topic: how we choose our daily drivers (04:54) - Updates with Justin (08:54) - Update from Brian (14:16) - Ryan's Launch week concept (23:04) - The concept of daily drivers in life (25:35) - Daily driver shoes (29:58) - Daily driver IDE (33:31) - Remote controlling Claude (44:44) - Daily driver for AI (50:09) - We often stick with a product even when a new one would be more efficient or helpful (53:37) - Daily driver for getting the news (01:04:32) - Daily drivers for vacations (01:15:11) - AI needs to be prompting us more (01:22:01) - Daily driver for voice transcription YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️🎤 Send us an audio or video message📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Transistor helps publish TBPN video podcast on Apple PodcastsBrian's job postingRyan's new app: Launch WeeksFreek's new appOpenAI buys TBPN for hundreds of millionsT3 Code editorOpenAI CodexSuperset.shConductorSoloCMUXCodex plugin for Claude CodeSurf.socialTangle newsGround News

  7. 27 Mar

    Can AI be your CRM?

    Justin's hosting this one and he brought along Ben Curtis from Honeybadger to talk about how AI can be a CRM and also your designer. Timestamps: (00:15) - Introducing Ben Curtis (02:57) - How is Honeybadger using AI? (06:35) - How do you determine which model to use for different problems? (09:33) - How are we using AI in marketing and sales? (24:09) - How Steve Schoger used AI to design (33:32) - How much longer will websites matter? (38:47) - How intelligent are LLMs at product market fit? (44:40) - Transistor Update: Video podcast hosting + Ghost integration (47:18) - What Honeybadger is working on (50:26) - Updates from Brian's work YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️🎤 Send us an audio or video message📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Ghost CMSClaude AICodex by OpenAIHatchbox for DeploymentFigmaGoogle StitchTailwind CSSClaude MCP for Figma@SteveSchoger designs with Claude

  8. 14 Mar

    The money tunnel

    Brian, Justin, and Jordan talk about the opportunity costs in business decision-making, the impact of AI on marketing channels and strategies, and building custom internal tools with AI versus SaaS solutions. Timestamps: (00:44) - Brian takes the lead (02:17) - Opportunity costs (17:29) - What is Brian's opportunity on Twitter? (21:41) - Figuring out what Builder Methods is and who it's for (24:53) - Should Brian hire someone to help achieve his goal? (28:47) - How is AI killing Saas (39:54) - People will want their own agent to use the softare, not a company's AI (51:07) - Jordan's CRM experiment YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️🎤 Send us an audio or video message📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links: Builder Methods ProBrian's YouTube

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Three founders, Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, and Jordan Gal, discuss product strategy in the age of AI, wins/misses, and ultimately, how to build a better business and a better life.

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    Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, Jordan Gal
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    2025 - 2026
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