Impact Pricing

Mark Stiving, Ph.D.

The Impact Pricing Podcast will help you win more business at higher prices by teaching you about pricing and value. Once you understand how your buyers perceive the value of your product, you can build, market and sell products that win at higher prices. Pricing is really about creating, communicating and capturing value.

  1. How to Quantify Value So Buyers Actually Believe It with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    3 DAYS AGO

    How to Quantify Value So Buyers Actually Believe It with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    If buyers need to believe the value before they buy…why don't they trust ROI when we show it to them? In Episode 5 of the Buyer Decision Series, Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris explore how to actually help buyers quantify value in a way they believe. Because the real value conversation doesn't start with spreadsheets or ROI calculators — it starts by helping buyers connect their problems to measurable outcomes they already care about. Discover how guiding buyers to use their own assumptions, their own numbers, and their own logic transforms value from something you claim… into something they trust — and why that trust is what ultimately increases the confidence needed to say yes.   Why you have to check out today's podcast: Discover why buyers don't trust ROI; even when your numbers are right and how this skepticism silently kills deals and drives unnecessary discounting Learn how to guide buyers to calculate value using their own numbers so the outcome feels credible, defensible, and worth paying for Master a simple framework to connect features to real business impact; turning vague problems into measurable results buyers can justify internally   Catch Up on the #BuyerDecisionSeries: Episode 1: Buying Is a Prediction of the Future  Episode 2: Buyers Buy Futures, Not Features Episode 3: What Buyers Actually Pay For Episode 4: Why Buyers Can't Articulate Their Real Problems (And Why That Matters for Pricing)   "Buyers believe it more when they use their own numbers than when you tell them the answer." — Mark Stiving   Topics Covered: 00:00 – Why Buyers Don't Trust ROI (Even When It's True).  The core problem: telling buyers the value doesn't build confidence — it often creates skepticism. 01:30 – The Value Table: Turning Features into Business Impact. A simple framework — Feature → Problem → Result → KPI — to connect what you sell to what buyers actually care about. 03:30 – The Hardest Step: Defining the Real Problem. Why companies (not just buyers) struggle to articulate the problem — and how the "curse of knowledge" gets in the way. 05:00 – From KPIs to Money: Where Value Actually Comes From. How to link metrics like churn or productivity to real financial impact (cost savings or revenue growth). 06:30 – Step 2: How to Quantify Value in a Live Conversation. How to guide buyers through their own logic — starting from their problems and moving toward measurable outcomes. 08:00 – Let the Buyer Do the Math (And Why It Works). Why using their assumptions and their numbers makes the value more believable than any pitch. 09:30 – Why Smaller Numbers Increase Credibility. Using conservative estimates builds trust — and still leads to compelling value. 10:30 – Why ROI Calculators Backfire (and What to Do Instead). Big, polished numbers feel manipulative — buyers trust what they help build. 11:15 – The Real Goal: Build Confidence, Not Just Prove Value. Quantifying value isn't about proving ROI — it's about making buyers believe the decision is right.   Key Takeaways: "When we can articulate problems to our buyers, they trust us more." — Mark Stiving "If we could solve this problem for you, what do you think that's going to do for your employee turnover?" — Mark Stiving "The buyer...once they've done the math and used their own numbers, they believe this way more than if you walked in and said, we're going to save you a million dollars." — Mark Stiving "We show that we understand their business, which is key." — Rebecca Kalogeris   Connect with Rebecca Kalogeris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-kalogeris   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

    13 min
  2. Why Buyers Can't Articulate Their Real Problems (And Why That Matters for Pricing) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    16 MAR

    Why Buyers Can't Articulate Their Real Problems (And Why That Matters for Pricing) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    If value comes from solving problems… why do buyers struggle to explain the problems they actually have? In Episode 4 of the Buyer Decision Series, Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris explore why buyers often jump straight to solutions instead of clearly articulating their problems. But the real value conversation doesn't start with features or products — it starts with understanding the problem behind the purchase. Discover why the sellers who understand a buyer's problems best are the ones buyers trust most… and why that trust increases the confidence needed to say yes.   Why you have to check out today's podcast: Understand why value only exists when a real problem is being solved—and why no problem means no value. Learn why buyers often jump to solutions and features instead of articulating their real problems. See why the best sales conversations focus less on products and more on diagnosing the buyer's situation.   Catch Up on the #BuyerDecisionSeries: Episode 1: Buying Is a Prediction of the Future  Episode 2: Buyers Buy Futures, Not Features  Episode 3: What Buyers Actually Pay For   "If there's no problem, there's no value." — Mark Stiving   Topics Covered: 00:00 – The Question Most Buyers Never Stop to Ask.  Mark opens with a simple but powerful question: what problem are we actually trying to solve? The starting point behind value — and why most buyers skip it. 02:00 – The Rule That Explains Why Value Only Exists When Problems Exist. Mark introduces the second half of the Second Law of Value: value is the result of solving problems. If there's no meaningful problem, there's no reason to pay. 02:28 – The "Drill Aisle" Mistake Buyers Make. Why buyers walk into a store asking for a drill instead of understanding what they actually need — and how jumping straight to solutions leads to bad decisions. 05:12 – Why Feature-Focused Buyers Often Choose the Wrong Solution. From cars to CRM systems, buyers instinctively compare features instead of identifying the deeper problems they're trying to solve. 08:09 – The Question That Instantly Builds Buyer Trust. Why great sellers ask deeper questions about context and behavior — revealing problems the buyer hasn't fully articulated. 09:55 – The Confidence Equation Behind Every Buying Decision. Mark revisits the confidence framework — payoff, probability, and anticipated regret — and explains why understanding problems increases the probability a buyer believes your solution will work. 11:04 – The "Doctor Test" for Great Selling. Rebecca compares great sellers to doctors: when someone clearly diagnoses your problem, you immediately trust their solution. 12:48 – The Next Puzzle: Turning Problems Into Measurable Value. Mark previews the next episode: how companies can help buyers quantify value once the real problems are understood.   Key Takeaways: "Buyers typically are horrible at articulating their own problems."  — Mark Stiving "Nobody cares about your product. What they care about are the problems you can solve and the results they'll achieve."  — Mark Stiving "The better a salesperson is at understanding your problems, the more likely you are to believe that solution solves your problem."  — Mark Stiving "When someone can articulate your problem with nuance and detail, suddenly you believe they can solve it." — Mark Stiving "Confidence changes when someone demonstrates they truly understand your situation." — Rebecca Kalogeris   People / Concepts Mentioned: Theodore Levitt. Referenced for the famous insight: "People don't want a quarter-inch drill. They want a quarter-inch hole." Jobs to Be Done. A framework focused on understanding the underlying job a customer is trying to accomplish.   Connect with Rebecca Kalogeris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-kalogeris   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

    15 min
  3. What Buyers Actually Pay For (Hint: It's Not Your Product) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    10 MAR

    What Buyers Actually Pay For (Hint: It's Not Your Product) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    If buyers are predicting the future… and confidence determines when they act… what are they actually paying for? In Episode 3 of the Buyer Decision Series, Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris explore the next piece of the puzzle; and challenge a common assumption about value. Because what buyers pay for may not be what you think. Discover what buyers are really evaluating; and why understanding it can completely change how you talk about value and pricing.   Why You Have to Listen: Understand what buyers are really paying for—and why it's rarely the product itself Learn the Second Law of Value and how it reshapes the way pricing conversations work See how B2B buyers think about results through revenue, cost savings, and risk Recognize the hidden personal outcomes buyers consider—even in business decisions Build the next layer of the Buyer Decision framework introduced in Episodes 1 and 2   Catch Up on the #buyerDecisionSeries: Episode 1: Buying Is a Prediction of the Future https://impactpricing.com/podcast/buying-is-a-prediction-of-the-future/ Episode 2: Buyers Buy Futures, Not Features https://impactpricing.com/podcast/buyers-buy-futures-not-features/   "Value is the result of solving problems." — Mark Stiving   Topics Covered: 00:22 - Recapping the First Two Episodes. Buying is prediction, and confidence determines when someone acts 01:32 - Confidence Threshold in Buying Decisions 02:11 - Introduction to Laws of Value 02:42 - Umbrella Law: Buyers Trade Money for Value 03:14 - Law One: Buyers Make Predictions 04:02 - Law Two: Value is the Result of Solving Problems 05:02 - Confidence Components: Payoff, Probability, Anticipated Regret 06:07 - B2B Results: Incremental Profit + Reduced Risk in B2B 08:22 - Results in B2C: Functional, Social, and Emotional Value. Consumers buy outcomes like better performance, social perception, or emotional satisfaction 10:43 - Why Individual Buyers Still Matter in B2B. Even business decisions include personal outcomes like reputation and career impact 12:50 - What Comes Next: Quantifying Value. How sellers can help buyers understand the payoff they expect   Key Takeaways: "Value is the result of solving problems." — Mark Stiving "Individual buyers inside companies still care about how decisions make them look and feel." — Rebecca Kalogeris   Connect with Rebecca Kalogeris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-kalogeris   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

    14 min
  4. Buyers Buy Futures, Not Features: Understanding the "Let Me Think About It" Moment with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    3 MAR

    Buyers Buy Futures, Not Features: Understanding the "Let Me Think About It" Moment with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    Buying isn't logical;  it's predictive.  In this episode, we explore why buyers hesitate, stall, and say "let me think about it" — even when the value is clear. Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris break down the real driver behind purchase decisions: confidence — the balance of payoff, probability, and anticipated regret. If buyers are betting on a future, your job isn't to explain features; it's to increase their belief that the future you promise will actually happen. Listen in to understand why buyers buy futures, not features and how to close the confidence gap without lowering your price.   Why You Have to Listen: Understand why buying is closer to gambling than logic; and what that means for pricing. Learn the three drivers of buyer confidence and how to increase them without discounting. Discover why more information often reduces clarity instead of increasing commitment.   "Buyers buy futures, not features." — Mark Stiving   Topics Covered: 01:00 – Buying Is a Prediction. Every purchase is a bet on the future — and we're surprisingly bad at making predictions 02:30 – Buying as Gambling. Why customers are placing bets without knowing the odds — and what sellers misunderstand about that 04:00 – Confidence = Payoff + Probability. The two core levers behind every buying decision: 06:30 – Belief Beats Information. Why more facts don't necessarily increase confidence — and why belief often wins 08:30 – The Confidence Threshold. Buyers must cross a psychological line before they commit — and most sellers don't know where that line is 10:00 – Anticipated Regret: The Hidden Variable. What happens if I'm wrong? Will I get blamed, embarrassed, or fired? 11:45 – The Real Buyer Disconnect. Sellers talk about features. Buyers are trying to predict their future. 13:00 – Mic Drop Moment. The insight that reframes everything: buyers buy futures, not features   Key Takeaways: "Predictions are really hard — especially when they're about the future." – Referencing Yogi Berra, discussed by Mark & Rebecca  "Confidence isn't just value. It's payoff, probability… and anticipated regret." – Mark Stiving "There's a confidence threshold you have to cross before you're willing to buy." – Mark Stiving "If I don't believe it, no amount of facts I'm reading are going to help me." – Rebecca Kalogeris   People/Resources Mentioned: Yogi Berra Buyer Disconnect (Mark Stiving's Upcoming Book)    Connect with Rebecca Kalogeris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-kalogeris    Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

    14 min
  5. Why Pricing Feels Disconnected from Buyer Behavior (And What We're Missing) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    2 MAR

    Why Pricing Feels Disconnected from Buyer Behavior (And What We're Missing) with Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris

    Before we talk about confidence. Before we talk about willingness to pay. Before we talk about buyer disconnect. We need to question something far more fundamental: What are buyers actually doing when they decide? In this pilot episode of the Decision Series, Mark Stiving and Rebecca Kalogeris unpack a deceptively simple idea that reframes how every purchase works;  especially in B2B.  They explore why value isn't as concrete as we assume, why certainty is often an illusion, and why so many pricing conversations miss what's really driving the decision. If pricing sometimes feels disconnected from buyer behavior, this episode starts to reveal why.   Why You Have to Listen: Understand why value doesn't exist at the moment of purchase; and what buyers are actually evaluating instead. Reframe perceived value as a belief about the future, not a fact in the present. Lay the foundation for everything that follows in the Buyer Decision series.   "Buying is a prediction of the future."  – Mark Stiving    Topics Covered: 00:00 – Buying Is a Prediction of the Future. The foundational idea that reshapes how we think about value 01:40 – What Is Buyer Disconnect? The gap between how buyers perceive value and how sellers think buyers perceive value 04:30 – The Drill Example: When Does Value Actually Happen? Value doesn't exist at purchase — it only exists if the future plays out as expected 06:20 – Perceived Value vs. Real Value. Why perceived value is all buyers have when they decide 09:45 – Why B2B Raises the Stakes. Business buyers are predicting both product outcomes and reputational consequences 11:40 – What Comes Next: Confidence. If buying is prediction, the next question is obvious — how do buyers build enough confidence to act?   Key Takeaways: "Value doesn't exist at the time of purchase." – Mark Stiving  "Buyer disconnect is the gap between how buyers perceive value and how sellers think buyers perceive value." – Mark Stiving "In B2B, buyers aren't just predicting product outcomes — they're predicting what happens to their reputation." – Mark Stiving "There are two predictions in every purchase; I assume the product will behave the way I expect, and I assume I'll behave the way I expect." – Rebecca Kalogeris   Resources and People Mentioned: Yogi Berra Buyer Disconnect (Mark Stiving's Upcoming Book)   Connect with Rebecca Kalogeris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-kalogeris   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

    13 min

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The Impact Pricing Podcast will help you win more business at higher prices by teaching you about pricing and value. Once you understand how your buyers perceive the value of your product, you can build, market and sell products that win at higher prices. Pricing is really about creating, communicating and capturing value.

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